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  1. # Session Start: Fri Oct 24 00:00:00 2014
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  26. # [04:17] <MikeSmith> botie, inform smaug about http://www.w3c-test.org/IndexedDB/interfaces.html having invalid tests, please file an issue at https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues
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  28. # [04:17] <MikeSmith> botie, inform smaug about http://www.w3c-test.org/IndexedDB/interfaces.html having invalid tests, please file an issue at https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues
  29. # [04:17] <botie> will do
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  45. # [12:47] <botie> smaug, at 2014-10-24 02:17 UTC, MikeSmith said: about http://www.w3c-test.org/IndexedDB/interfaces.html having invalid tests, please file an issue at https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues
  46. # [12:55] <smaug> one never knows where to file w3c bugs
  47. # [12:56] <smaug> bugzilla, tracker or github
  48. # [12:58] <MikeSmith> smaug: that's not really a w3c bug
  49. # [12:59] <MikeSmith> w3c is kind of just a steward for the wpt testsuite
  50. # [12:59] <MikeSmith> a convenient place to host it
  51. # [12:59] <MikeSmith> but anyway, all bugs about the testsuite should go to github
  52. # [13:00] <MikeSmith> tracker, you should not ever need to deal with
  53. # [13:00] <MikeSmith> the only sane use for tracker for WGs is just for tracking actions
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  55. # [13:03] <smaug> right
  56. # [13:03] <smaug> ok, filing anyway
  57. # [13:04] <smaug> just need to understand what goes wrong in idlharness.js
  58. # [13:04] <smaug> aha, there is comment that the behavior doesn't match browsers http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14813
  59. # [13:04] <smaug> and that bug is wontfix
  60. # [13:22] <MikeSmith> oh
  61. # [13:23] * MikeSmith checks the bug
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  64. # [13:52] <ArtB> hallvors - yt?
  65. # [13:52] <ArtB> jungkees - yt?
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  68. # [13:53] <ArtB> does anyone know hallvors' timezone?
  69. # [13:54] <hallvors> ArtB: I'm here
  70. # [13:54] <ArtB> hey!
  71. # [13:54] <ArtB> I was thinking about adding an explicit timeslot for XHR next week
  72. # [13:54] <ArtB> are you available @ 11:30 SFO time next Monday?
  73. # [13:55] <ArtB> I believe junkees will be at the meeting
  74. # [13:55] <ArtB> I don't expect an especially long discussion
  75. # [13:55] <ArtB> but this would give us all an opp to talk about XHR plans
  76. # [13:55] <ArtB> WDYT hallvors? and jungkees?
  77. # [13:55] * hallvors loads timeanddate.com
  78. # [13:56] <ArtB> 11:30 was just a first proposal, any open slot on Mon or Tues would be fine with me although having jungkees there would be good
  79. # [13:57] <hallvors> yes, I think 11:30 is doable
  80. # [13:57] <hallvors> I can be on IRC at least, maybe call if you'd like that
  81. # [13:57] <ArtB> ok, I'll add that and if necessary, we can change it :-)
  82. # [13:57] <ArtB> yes, if you can call in, that'd be good
  83. # [13:59] <ArtB> I'll reply to one of the recent threads with this time slot
  84. # [13:59] <ArtB> Hallvors, BTW, Thanks for the Clipboard status!
  85. # [13:59] <hallvors> you're welcome, sorry I was a bit slow responding
  86. # [14:00] <ArtB> (I wish everyone else would do likewise [Hint to all other "bad" Editors ;-)]
  87. # [14:00] <ArtB> hallvors, your timing was great
  88. # [14:04] <ArtB> yves - is Cameron going to be at TPAC?
  89. # [14:05] <ArtB> I ask because if he is, perhaps we should try to allocate a slot for Web IDL (even if it just takes a few mins)
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  93. # [14:22] <Yves> he's not registered, so I won't bet on it :(
  94. # [14:23] <Yves> and thx art for adding epxlicit slot for xhr :)
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  96. # [14:27] <darobin> are we going to have technical discussions in the meeting, or will it be more status stuff like the previous ones?
  97. # [14:30] <ArtB> darobin, it's up to the participants
  98. # [14:30] <darobin> ArtB: let's make it about technical discussions then :)
  99. # [14:30] <Yves> the last meeting was a bit less status-ey, I hope this will be even less
  100. # [14:30] <ArtB> are there any specific tech issues you think should be discussed?
  101. # [14:30] <darobin> ArtB: the participants react to what the chairs put on the table
  102. # [14:31] <darobin> all of them
  103. # [14:31] <darobin> no, seriously, we talked about this with Adrian at the EWS in Berlin
  104. # [14:31] <ArtB> (oh, that's a mistake)
  105. # [14:31] <darobin> it would be nicer to use the face time for tech stuff
  106. # [14:31] <ArtB> agree
  107. # [14:31] <darobin> we can do the status offline, or by torturing the editors in your dungeon
  108. # [14:31] <ArtB> did Adrian have any concrete suggestions?
  109. # [14:32] <ArtB> I guess my expectation wasn't clear :-(
  110. # [14:32] <ArtB> (which is for the Editors to bring forth the discussion topics)
  111. # [14:32] * hallvors notes that darobin knows surprising things about ArtB, torture and dungeons
  112. # [14:33] <ArtB> LOL!
  113. # [14:35] <ArtB> darobin, can you and the Editing TF help lead an issue-driven agenda by proposing in advance of the meeting specific discussion topics?
  114. # [14:35] <darobin> ArtB: I am sure that Adrian would have concrete suggestions if you asked him
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  116. # [14:35] <darobin> I recall he mentioned wanting to solve the remaining problems in File
  117. # [14:36] <darobin> hallvors: and so much more you don't want to hear about...
  118. # [14:36] <darobin> ArtB: I'll ask Ben
  119. # [14:38] <ArtB> darobin, I did ask Adrian and he said he would let me know but that hasn't happened (yet :-()
  120. # [14:38] <darobin> ArtB: I'll follow up on that — I can do the dungeon thing
  121. # [14:38] <darobin> though I prefer to call it the... fungeon
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  133. # [17:49] <ArtB> darobin, yt?
  134. # [17:50] <ArtB> Domenic, yt?
  135. # [17:50] <ArtB> jungkees, yt?
  136. # [17:50] <Domenic> ArtB: ya
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  139. # [17:51] <ArtB> Domenic, darobin, jungkees - re the various emails about scheduling and WebApps next week
  140. # [17:51] <ArtB> the related topics include: Streams, Service Workers and Push
  141. # [17:51] <ArtB> wondering if there is a sane-ish order to discuss them
  142. # [17:52] <ArtB> like Streams->Service Workers -> Push
  143. # [17:52] <ArtB> I believe Jungkees will be available both days
  144. # [17:52] <ArtB> how about you Domenic? What's your availability for these specs?
  145. # [17:53] <Domenic> The service worker team has pretty deliberately separated themselves from streams for now. I.e. they've carved out a clear place to for them to inhabit in "v1.1". So I don't think there's a big dependency.
  146. # [17:53] <Domenic> ArtB: schedule link again?
  147. # [17:53] <ArtB> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/November2014Meeting#Agenda_Monday_October_27
  148. # [17:54] <ArtB> (ok, re the Streams and SW separation)
  149. # [17:54] <ArtB> so maybe this means leave Streams and XHR as is
  150. # [17:54] <ArtB> and after lunch take SW and Push API
  151. # [17:54] <ArtB> can you Domenic be available for SW discussions vis-a-vis Push API?
  152. # [17:55] <Domenic> ArtB: I can; not sure I'm all that involved though
  153. # [17:55] <ArtB> ok. So is Alex still heavily involved in SW (perhaps I need to ping him)?
  154. # [17:56] <ArtB> slightlyoff, yt?
  155. # [17:56] <Domenic> Yeah, Alex would be the person.
  156. # [17:56] <darobin> ArtB?
  157. # [17:56] <darobin> oh
  158. # [17:56] <Domenic> beverloo actually is I think the main SW <-> push person
  159. # [17:57] <ArtB> hi darobin, I was looking for your advice on how to help organize related Push, SW, etc. discussions next week
  160. # [17:57] <darobin> ArtB: my advice is "whatever Domenic says" :)
  161. # [17:57] <darobin> ArtB: Ben will be sending you some issues to discuss for Editing
  162. # [17:57] <ArtB> ok, that's certainly my default ;)
  163. # [17:58] <ArtB> darobin, that's great (if by "you" you mean: 1) p-webapps and 2) adding the issues to the agenda wiki)
  164. # [17:58] <Domenic> SW & push are indeed pretty coupled so good to stack them together if possible
  165. # [17:58] <Domenic> streams & sw could be discussed together but no pressing need.
  166. # [17:58] <ArtB> ok, thanks Domenic
  167. # [17:58] <Domenic> that's all i got :0
  168. # [17:58] <Domenic> :)
  169. # [17:58] <darobin> ArtB: I don't know, but we'll see what Ben does
  170. # [17:59] <darobin> I've also prodded Ade for details on what he wanted
  171. # [17:59] <ArtB> darobin, that's fine; I'll DTRT
  172. # [17:59] <darobin> he got married this week or last I think, might explain why he hasn't replied
  173. # [17:59] <ArtB> thanks darobin re Ade
  174. # [17:59] <darobin> there was talk of Chaals organising some sort of stag week for him during TPAC...
  175. # [18:00] <ArtB> (I did notice after my request to him that a few Softies started chiming in on a couple of specs; don't know if that was related or not)
  176. # [18:00] <darobin> (I find the notion of a stag night pretty scary, a stag week worse, and one organised by chaals... well...)
  177. # [18:00] * ArtB oh yea, bachelor's party ;)
  178. # [18:00] <darobin> yeah, that
  179. # [18:00] * ArtB that's almost worth going to CA
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  183. # [18:32] <slightlyoff> ArtB: I'm here
  184. # [18:32] <slightlyoff> ArtB: and yes, still heavily involved = )
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  186. # [18:32] <ArtB> hi Alex
  187. # [18:32] <ArtB> ;-)
  188. # [18:32] <slightlyoff> what's the question?
  189. # [18:32] <ArtB> are you going to be at TPAC Alex?
  190. # [18:32] <slightlyoff> yes
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  192. # [18:32] <slightlyoff> registration foibles willing
  193. # [18:32] <ArtB> oh, ok
  194. # [18:33] <ArtB> can you please plan to join WebApps' meeting @ 13:00 on Monday?
  195. # [18:33] <ArtB> there are some Qs about the relationship between Service Workers and the Push API
  196. # [18:33] <ArtB> (on p-webapps list)
  197. # [18:34] <ArtB> if you need to join via phone bridge that's ok too
  198. # [18:37] <ArtB> I need to logoff right now so slightlyoff please do let me know your availability
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  200. # [18:44] <slightlyoff> ArtB: I've got a thing I have to do AM monday, but will be there by 13:00
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