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  74. # [16:19] <artb> oh dear, YA `WTF were you thinking dropping synchronous from XHR.open` thread https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2015JanMar/0383.html
  75. # [16:20] <artb> reply from Frederik seems to say it all https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2015JanMar/0385.html
  76. # [16:25] <Yves> yeah old-style backend software is still running, most probably in cobol
  77. # [16:26] * chaals has actually written CoBoL
  78. # [16:31] <gsnedders> chaals: Look, I know you're a medievalist, but I didn't think you /were/ medieval :)
  79. # [16:33] <jgraham> All fear Professional Software
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  81. # [16:55] <chaals> gsnedders: before your forefathers were born…
  82. # [16:55] * chaals is almost as old as ArtB And in a few years I might well be older than him…
  83. # [16:59] * artb wonders if he would date himself if he mentioned his first programming course was FORTRAN with punch cards; GOTO …
  84. # [17:00] <artb> sgsnedders is like `wtf is a punch card?` ;)
  85. # [17:01] <artb> or FORTRAN
  86. # [17:01] <gsnedders> I've written FORTRAN!
  87. # [17:01] <artb> come to think of it, I'm not surprised
  88. # [17:02] <gsnedders> There's enough physics/maths libraries around that heavily use FORTRAN.
  89. # [17:02] <jgraham> gsnedders: Proper FORTRAN or Fortran 90/95/whatever the other one got called?
  90. # [17:02] <gsnedders> jgraham: ok, recent FORTRAN, not oldsk00l FORTRAN
  91. # [17:02] <gsnedders> And that /is/ weird, I will admit.
  92. # [17:04] * jgraham once tried to read http://ftp.ledas.ac.uk/software/lheasoft/lheasoft6.3/source/ftools/heasarc/src/mekal/fmekal.f
  93. # [17:04] <jgraham> But eventually realised that no one else understood it either
  94. # [17:05] <gsnedders> Worst programming exercise we ever had at uni involved FORTRAN. Mostly because we had to parse it. And weren't given a grammar. And were told to work it out from the code we were given. And were then assessed based on unit tests including syntax we hadn't seen.
  95. # [17:05] * gsnedders grumbles
  96. # [17:05] <gsnedders> Assessing stuff by unit tests passed % is nonsense, basically.
  97. # [17:09] * artb guesses NASA used code like that in Apollo 11 ;)
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  99. # [17:11] <chaals> gsnedders: a fair amount of assessing stuff at Uni is nonsense, basically.
  100. # [17:13] <gsnedders> chaals: yeah, but that was esspecially nonsense; I got an E (on a scale where a D is the requirement for a lowest class degree) for something that most lecturers would've given me an A or B :(
  101. # [17:13] <gsnedders> tl;dr: uni's bullshit and I'm glad to be away from it
  102. # [17:13] <chaals> There is some value in it…
  103. # [17:14] <chaals> …like proving you can put up with a proper job, and deserve a salary even during the week of goofing off, instead of being told to go make your own money…
  104. # [17:14] <chaals> …but…
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