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  23. # [00:42] <windows1> hello
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  25. # [00:43] <windows1> anyone there?
  26. # [00:44] <Strategist> Yus
  27. # [00:44] <windows1> hi
  28. # [00:44] <lampe2> yes
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  30. # [00:46] <Jayflux> if only someone was here to help him..
  31. # [00:46] <lampe2> he dident asked for help :D
  32. # [00:47] <Jayflux> heh I was being sarcastic lampe2
  33. # [00:47] <lampe2> me too
  34. # [00:48] <Strategist> Sup folks?
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  42. # [00:52] <DeviaVir> hey people, html email or plaintext email?
  43. # [00:53] <lampe2> DeviaVir, i dont like html email. i think for newsletters its okay that they are html
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  46. # [00:54] <@Garbee> DeviaVir, Whichever you like.
  47. # [00:54] <DeviaVir> okay, so transactional mail would preferrably be plaintext, and newsletters html?
  48. # [00:55] <@Garbee> DeviaVir, It doesn't matter.
  49. # [00:55] <@Garbee> You can use whatever you want unless someone specifically asks for a certain type.
  50. # [00:56] <lampe2> for normal texting i wouldnt use html its just makes the email bigger for no good reason
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  56. # [01:07] <DeviaVir> got ya
  57. # [01:15] <syntaxtic> webplatform.org is an excellent initiative
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  107. # [02:58] <culturelabs> anyone have suggestions for using css3 for ie6+?
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  115. # [03:12] <DeviaVir> culturelabs: most common solution I heard was along the lines of "don't"
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  149. # [03:23] <skcin7> HI everyone, what's up?
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  152. # [03:24] <DeviaVir> Hiya skcin7, how you doin'
  153. # [03:25] <skcin7> Pretty good, DeviaVir.
  154. # [03:25] <skcin7> Anybody have any backbone.js projects that they would like to share?
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  159. # [03:26] <skcin7> I'd love to see some work that members in the community have completed.
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  198. # [04:09] <@arkhi> Good morning…
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  216. # [04:49] <skcin7> What is a "AMD compatible script"?
  217. # [04:50] <skcin7> Also, good morning arkhi :)
  218. # [04:50] <egghead> skcin7: AMD is async module def.
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  220. # [04:50] <skcin7> Cool, thanks egghead.
  221. # [04:51] <egghead> http://wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/Modules/AsynchronousDefinition for more info
  222. # [04:51] <skcin7> It's frustrating when i try to read documentation or blog posts and get all these weird acronyms and they assume everybody knows what they're talking about……
  223. # [04:51] <egghead> well, it's there for those who are interested in whether or not it's compatible, doesn't matter either way if you aren't interested ;)
  224. # [04:52] <skcin7> Thanks for the link egghead. I'm checking that out as soon as I get done reading this current blog post I'm on.
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  230. # [05:17] <skcin7> Ugh, I can't seem to figure out how to load simple jQuery plugins in Require.js 2.0.4.
  231. # [05:17] <skcin7> This shim doesn't seem to be working: http://pastebin.com/6XgyJjun , even though that's what the documentation at GitHub says to do. Any ideas?
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  233. # [05:23] <@arkhi> can't really help skcin7, sorry…
  234. # [05:23] <skcin7> Ahhhh thanks anyway.
  235. # [05:24] <skcin7> I've been reading all the docs and help pages I can find… I'm almost out of resources, lol.
  236. # [05:25] <@arkhi> Read then again. Sometimes we miss the obvious. ;)
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  242. # [05:51] <@paul_irish> hihi
  243. # [05:51] <pyrotechnick> https://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&spell=1&q=willkommen&sa=X&ei=ZraIUMiCIqXwmAXu_4EI&ved=0CB8QBSgA
  244. # [05:51] <pyrotechnick> wrong window
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  246. # [05:51] <@paul_irish> ;)
  247. # [05:52] <pyrotechnick> i wonder how many of my secrets are encoding in that slug
  248. # [05:52] <skcin7> Hi there, paul_irish
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  251. # [06:00] <@arkhi> Hello everyone
  252. # [06:01] <skcin7> Hi there arkhi, what are you working on today?
  253. # [06:02] <@arkhi> templates for Symfony2
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  256. # [06:02] <skcin7> Sweet
  257. # [06:03] <@paul_irish> NotTomato: around?
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  277. # [06:43] <@paul_irish> a bunch of the chrome team is hacking on WPD today
  278. # [06:43] <@paul_irish> (from tokyo!)
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  288. # [06:58] <@paul_irish> whats the story on access to piwik stats?
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  325. # [08:58] <ericelliott> Is there a place to complain about gotchas and API pet peeves on webplatform?
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  380. # [10:24] <brayn> morning
  381. # [10:25] <@arkhi> Hola brayn
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  424. # [12:55] <@_cheney> that 'first commit' feeling
  425. # [12:55] <@_cheney> good feels
  426. # [12:55] * eighty4 congrats _cheney
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  431. # [13:03] <brayn> not much chatter here, ei?
  432. # [13:03] <@_cheney> not really :/
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  435. # [13:05] <@_cheney> seven am on the east coast atm
  436. # [13:05] <@Garbee> The noise calmed down after the initial launch.
  437. # [13:05] <@Garbee> It is quite most of the time now.
  438. # [13:05] * @Sandkorn yawns
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  442. # [13:15] <brayn> So the channel should be about the site itself or dev-talk in general or what? :)
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  445. # [13:16] <@Garbee> Meta on the site.
  446. # [13:17] <@Garbee> We will occassionally get into just general stuff, but if it goes on too long we move the conversation into another room.
  447. # [13:19] <brayn> Garbee, cool. And the site is really, really awesome!
  448. # [13:20] <@Garbee> We know. ;)
  449. # [13:20] <@Garbee> ^^ Pure arrogance. Smiting will begin in 30...
  450. # [13:21] * brayn -> smite me oh mighty smiter!!!
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  637. # [19:16] <saper> shepazu: I have some idea related to webplatform.org; we are now having a project with Internet Society and we might be able to donate some time of a MediaWiki guy (i.e. myself) to do something for webplatform.org; our project is about translation/i18n of standards publishing but we could probably do some technical work related to the MediaWiki itself.
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  642. # [19:28] <@Ryan_Lane> I'm upgrading salt
  643. # [19:29] <@Garbee> Ryan, If you can make it more delicious, please do!
  644. # [19:30] <@Ryan_Lane> well, I'm getting rid of a security vulnerability ;)
  645. # [19:30] <@Ryan_Lane> that's probably at least a little delicious, right?
  646. # [19:30] <@Garbee> Sure, close enough.
  647. # [19:30] * @Garbee really wants to hear the MW engine is getting updated.
  648. # [19:31] <@Ryan_Lane> it'll be getting updated at some point
  649. # [19:31] <@Garbee> Session handling has been horrible the past few days, and today it seems to be working just fine.
  650. # [19:31] <@Ryan_Lane> will likely need to be after I get back from vacation, though
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  655. # [19:43] <shepazu> saper: that sounds great! can you email me?
  656. # [19:45] <saper> shepazu: if I know the address :)
  657. # [19:46] <shepazu> saper: see my private message
  658. # [19:46] <shepazu> also, it's my last name, schepers, at our web address http://w3.org
  659. # [19:48] <shepazu> saper: I'm about to head to the airport, and I'll be gone for a week at a conference, but I'll try to answer on email, because this is an important topic
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  701. # [21:27] <Ruisu> hi all
  702. # [21:28] <gluxon> Hello!
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  705. # [21:28] <Ruisu> Had a quick question about google maps, wondering if anyone would help?
  706. # [21:28] <gluxon> Ruisu: I might. What's the question?
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  710. # [21:29] <Ruisu> basicly I wanted to include google maps in a website I'm building, so looking up online and found you don't need an API key with v3
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  712. # [21:30] <gluxon> What do you mean by "include Google Maps"?
  713. # [21:30] <gluxon> Like, have a map of a destination on a web page?
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  715. # [21:30] <Ruisu> yeah, with a marker so anyone can find the location easily
  716. # [21:31] <gluxon> Ruisu:
  717. # [21:31] <gluxon> http://maps.google.com/help/maps/getmaps/plot-one.html
  718. # [21:31] <gluxon> ^ Easy as it can get :)
  719. # [21:31] <Ruisu> anyway i found steps on a website (ill add link when i find it again)
  720. # [21:32] <Ruisu> ill check this out, but what happened next has comepletely thrown me
  721. # [21:32] <gluxon> Adding the frame?
  722. # [21:32] <Ruisu> found teh location on google maps, and yes added teh frame copy and paste the link into a blank html to try it out
  723. # [21:32] <Ruisu> then firefox broke
  724. # [21:33] <Ruisu> transparent windows
  725. # [21:33] <Ruisu> and chrome still wont run at all
  726. # [21:33] <Ruisu> well i can't browse at all
  727. # [21:33] <gluxon> ?
  728. # [21:33] <gluxon> How did Firefox break?
  729. # [21:33] <Ruisu> I have no idea, just all teh windows became transparent
  730. # [21:34] <Ruisu> did a system role back which seems to work but chrome is still broke
  731. # [21:34] <gluxon> ?
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  733. # [21:34] <gluxon> The windows became transparent..?
  734. # [21:34] <gluxon> What Operating System are you running, Windows 7, Vista, XP?
  735. # [21:34] <Ruisu> yeah like the areo theme in win 7
  736. # [21:34] <Ruisu> win 7 64 bit
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  738. # [21:35] <gluxon> Ruisu: Is it possible for you to show me a screenshot?
  739. # [21:35] <gluxon> Transparent means many things.
  740. # [21:36] <Ruisu> wish i thought to take screenshot
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  742. # [21:39] <Ruisu> i have an areo theme in windows, it was a blank firefox window over that level of transparency (50% I think)
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  744. # [21:40] <gluxon> Well, Firefox doesn't have any component that makes it transparent like that.
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  746. # [21:40] <gluxon> Hm...
  747. # [21:40] <gluxon> Can you hit Ctrl + Shift + E?
  748. # [21:40] <gluxon> While Firefox is open?
  749. # [21:40] <Ruisu> yep, since I've rolled back the system firefox is working fine again
  750. # [21:40] <gluxon> Ah, that was quick. :)
  751. # [21:41] <Ruisu> haha yes the results of blind panic :p
  752. # [21:42] <Ruisu> chrome is still broken though, uninstalled and reinstalled it but the same, wasn't sure if it had anything to do with java, can I safetly uninstall the 4 java components I have? and how does google maps work to screw up my browsers?
  753. # [21:43] <gluxon> It doesn't.
  754. # [21:44] <gluxon> I don't think your issue is related to Maps.
  755. # [21:44] <gluxon> And what do you mean by Chrome is broken.. how?
  756. # [21:45] <Ruisu> any url i type is ignored, can't even get on to google :S
  757. # [21:45] <gluxon> Ok. What does "ignored" mean? Any error page? Loading continuously?
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  759. # [21:47] <Ruisu> sorry wasn't clear, open chrome: url reads - about:blank, and teh page is blank. enter url e.g. google hit enter: page looks like its loading then goes back to about:blank with a blank page
  760. # [21:48] <gluxon> When you uninstalled, did you remove your profile configuration?
  761. # [21:49] <gluxon> As in, reset Chrome?
  762. # [21:49] <Ruisu> you know I don't think i did :S
  763. # [21:49] <Ruisu> let me try again
  764. # [21:50] <gluxon> No, wait.
  765. # [21:50] <gluxon> Open up Windows Explorer (file manager)
  766. # [21:50] <gluxon> Go to AppData, or just type in %appdata% in the location box.
  767. # [21:50] <Ruisu> phew, was clode:P kk
  768. # [21:51] <gluxon> From there go to Local --> Google --> Chrome --> Default 
  769. # [21:51] <gluxon> Rename the Default folder to Default - backup
  770. # [21:51] <gluxon> That folder is Chrome's profile.
  771. # [21:51] <gluxon> This should reset Chrome's settings.
  772. # [21:51] <gluxon> Do this while Chrome is not running though.
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  775. # [21:54] <Ruisu> ok having a dull moment: local -> google -> chrome -> userdata-> (rename 'Default' to 'Default - backup') and run chrome?
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  784. # [21:58] <gluxon> Ruisu: Yep.
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  786. # [22:00] <Ruisu> gluxon: that seems to have worked, thanks ton :)
  787. # [22:00] <gluxon> All that did was reset Chrome to default settings. :)
  788. # [22:00] <DeviaVir> So google maps caused this you say?
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  790. # [22:00] <gluxon> DeviaVir: He thought it did.
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  792. # [22:01] <Ruisu> well you helpped easy my panic :)
  793. # [22:01] <DeviaVir> probably something with webgl?
  794. # [22:01] <Ruisu> I still have no idea what caused it
  795. # [22:01] <DeviaVir> did you touch custom chrome flags
  796. # [22:01] <Ruisu> i was in firefox when it happened
  797. # [22:02] <DeviaVir> desktop?
  798. # [22:02] <DeviaVir> laptop?
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  800. # [22:02] <DeviaVir> oh, okay :P
  801. # [22:02] <gluxon> DeviaVir: Hm.. why would desktop/laptop matter?
  802. # [22:02] <DeviaVir> laptop could switch graphics card
  803. # [22:02] <gluxon> DeviaVir: Oh, so it's okay in Firefox... -.-
  804. # [22:02] <DeviaVir> which might have so much fun
  805. # [22:02] <gluxon> Why can't a desktop do that?
  806. # [22:02] <DeviaVir> because a desktop only has one graphics card?
  807. # [22:02] <DeviaVir> or a SLI..
  808. # [22:03] <DeviaVir> which is still counted as one
  809. # [22:03] <gluxon> Well, what if it had two custom installed?
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  812. # [22:03] <DeviaVir> then you can't SLI it correctly
  813. # [22:03] <Ruisu> firefox broke so tried chrome which was also broke
  814. # [22:03] <DeviaVir> so don't think anyone would do that
  815. # [22:03] <gluxon> Ruisu: But broken in different ways...
  816. # [22:03] <DeviaVir> well maybe Ruisu, your hard drive had a hickup?
  817. # [22:03] <gluxon> ...
  818. # [22:03] <DeviaVir> maybe you can run a fsck
  819. # [22:03] <gluxon> .......
  820. # [22:04] <gluxon> ................
  821. # [22:04] <gluxon> DeviaVir: How does the problems he described relate to hard drive errors?
  822. # [22:04] <DeviaVir> what could cause Chrome _and_ Firefox to suddenly stop working?
  823. # [22:04] <DeviaVir> I don't think software, you?
  824. # [22:05] <gluxon> I live software :)
  825. # [22:05] <gluxon> DeviaVir: They were broken in different ways.
  826. # [22:05] <DeviaVir> then you should know..
  827. # [22:05] <gluxon> DeviaVir: And a profile reset fixed Chrome.
  828. # [22:05] <gluxon> So it wasn't a hardware problem.
  829. # [22:05] <Ruisu> I wasn't sure if the registry was altered in some way
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  831. # [22:06] <DeviaVir> then you must be right! still, wouldn't hurt to check hard drives if you have this weird stuff happening from nowhere :)
  832. # [22:06] <@Garbee> Could ya'll take this into #webplatform-offtopic please?
  833. # [22:07] <Ruisu> I'm pretty sure I have malware on my comp, most webpages give me hover over pop up ads, scanned with spybot and malwarebytes, also have avast installed but nothing
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  835. # [22:07] <DeviaVir> well, that's software alright :P
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  838. # [22:12] <Ruisu> haha yeah no idea how it got there, always careful wih downloads and site browsing
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  882. # [23:51] <Ruisu> Thanks again gluxon see everyone another time
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