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  1. # Session Start: Sat Oct 27 00:00:01 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #webplatform
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  6. # [00:08] <David_Bradbury> Are there any guidelines set up for hiding/closing posts?
  7. # [00:08] <@Garbee> Posts in the Q&A?
  8. # [00:08] <David_Bradbury> Yup
  9. # [00:09] <@Garbee> Not really. We tend to just leave things open until the author closes it if they chose to do so.
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  11. # [00:10] <David_Bradbury> Fair enough. And troll posts get hidden right? No way to delete them?
  12. # [00:12] <@Garbee> You can delete them. Really, just hide and I will routinely delete things until we get the Admin Guide up.
  13. # [00:12] <David_Bradbury> Cool :) Just going through and trying to clean some things up
  14. # [00:13] <@Garbee> There is one in the Moderate que now, leave it there please. I am going to ask in the Mailing List if that type of question should be allowed in.
  15. # [00:15] <AQSpock|School> Is it perchance one asking about nuggets of wisdom for a would be web developer? I submitted a question anonymously a couple hours ago and haven't seen it yet
  16. # [00:15] * AQSpock|School is now known as AloysiusQSpock
  17. # [00:16] <@Garbee> AloysiusQSpock: That is because I'm not sure if that type fo question should be allowed in yet.
  18. # [00:16] <@Garbee> that type of*
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  20. # [00:17] <AloysiusQSpock> Hehe
  21. # [00:17] <@Garbee> There are many nuggets to be shared though, the only thing is just asking for nuggets is pretty vague so difficult to answer.
  22. # [00:18] <AloysiusQSpock> At the very least, it's a productive question for the site. Staightens out some ambiguities. :D
  23. # [00:19] <@Garbee> Right now a lot of buzz is around tooling and workflow. Which brings up Nugget #1, get a good text editor. Most seem to love (including myself) Sublime Text ( http://sublimetext.com ).
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  25. # [00:19] <AloysiusQSpock> How's it compare to Notepad++?
  26. # [00:19] <@Garbee> Fast, sexy, amazing.
  27. # [00:20] <@Garbee> If you use Notepad++ and like it, then by all means go with it.
  28. # [00:20] <AloysiusQSpock> Hmm.
  29. # [00:20] <@Garbee> Sublime Text is also cross-platform which is an awesome thing to support.
  30. # [00:20] <AloysiusQSpock> Does look a heckuva lot more suited for programming. Does it handle HTML, JavaScript, etc.?
  31. # [00:20] <@Garbee> The main issue I see with that type of question in the Q&A is it basically invites a flame-war.
  32. # [00:21] <@Garbee> ofc it handles them.
  33. # [00:21] <AloysiusQSpock> Cool
  34. # [00:23] <@Garbee> Another thing I would say is, use Chrome's Dev Tools if you don't already. They are so simple and powerful it is insane.
  35. # [00:23] <AloysiusQSpock> As far as the question goes, ya'll just do what you think is best for the site. I won't gripe if it gets rejected.
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  37. # [00:24] <AloysiusQSpock> I considered installing the Dev tools, but I didn't really know what I'd do with them
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  39. # [00:24] <@Garbee> They are installed with the browser by default. ;)
  40. # [00:24] <@Garbee> Ctrl + Shift + I
  41. # [00:24] <AloysiusQSpock> So they are. Neat.
  42. # [00:25] <@Garbee> https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/overview
  43. # [00:25] <@Garbee> Check out what is under the "Documentation" on the left hand side.
  44. # [00:25] <@Garbee> It will show you how to use them.
  45. # [00:26] <AloysiusQSpock> Ah, cool
  46. # [00:26] <@Garbee> That is actually some of the content I'm going to work on importing and expanding upon once we get what is here sorted out.
  47. # [00:28] <AloysiusQSpock> Is WebPlatform.org relatively new? I had a friend suggest it to me after I made a FB status saying I wanted to get more into web programming.
  48. # [00:28] <@Garbee> Yea, it has only been live for about 2 weeks now.
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  50. # [00:28] <AloysiusQSpock> Oh wow!
  51. # [00:28] <@Garbee> Most of the content is imported from other dev networks that are used often.
  52. # [00:29] <@Garbee> That is why it is a mess as far as organization and layout of some pages that haven't been touched yet.
  53. # [00:29] <@Garbee> Hence, why it is still in Alpha.
  54. # [00:29] <AloysiusQSpock> Heh, I had noticed the lack of organization on the wiki. Can't say I really have anything useful to contribute, I'm more here to learn.
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  56. # [00:32] <@Garbee> There is plenty everyone can do, right now though the main focus is on getting things cleaned and then we can worry about the content's organization and content. People just starting like you are perfect guinne pigs for the content to make sure it is written in a way that is easily understandable.
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  58. # [00:32] <@Garbee> Like I'm focusing on the HTML section right now which I know is an atrocity in terms of content.
  59. # [00:33] <@Garbee> So while I'm cleaning I'm also rewriting/organizing it so things fit our structure better.
  60. # [00:33] <AloysiusQSpock> Guinea pig? Who ya callin' a guinea pig?
  61. # [00:33] * AloysiusQSpock squeaks
  62. # [00:33] * AloysiusQSpock goes for a run on his wheel
  63. # [00:33] <@Garbee> Ha. Yea, Guinea Pigs are nice like that.
  64. # [00:33] <@Garbee> They dont' annoy me like my dogs do.
  65. # [00:34] <@Garbee> ;)
  66. # [00:34] <AloysiusQSpock> Dinnertime. bbl
  67. # [00:34] <David_Bradbury> Garbee: Yeah, so I accidentally approved that before you mentioned that. Is there a way to send it back, or should we close it until it is decided?
  68. # [00:34] <@Garbee> The truth is we can write all day on stuff. The test is, "Can people who don't understand read it and then understand."
  69. # [00:35] <@Garbee> David, hidden until we get feedback in the Mailing List.
  70. # [00:36] <@Garbee> I'm going to email that out tonight when I check for any updates.
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  72. # [00:36] <David_Bradbury> And that was why I had so much trouble with advanced math in high school and had to stop being an 'honor' student in math. My teachers continually told me to 'do things' that would get me the right answer without letting me understand why.
  73. # [00:36] <@Garbee> I just see that too easily becomming a flame-war from hell.
  74. # [00:36] <David_Bradbury> Totally understandable
  75. # [00:36] <David_Bradbury> And I hid it
  76. # [00:36] <@Garbee> haha, High School... Those were the days.
  77. # [00:37] <David_Bradbury> Indeed
  78. # [00:37] <@Garbee> My teachers told me "You can'd just do it in your head." Yet, when I did it in my head I got the right answer, I show my work and I got it wrong.
  79. # [00:37] <@Garbee> can't*
  80. # [00:37] <David_Bradbury> Seriously
  81. # [00:37] <@Garbee> Yea. I also loved one exam.
  82. # [00:37] <David_Bradbury> I had the same issue. Especially when I was sent back to 'normal' math
  83. # [00:37] <@Garbee> My Algebra 2 teacher told me "You can't possibly be done that fast, go check over it again."... I said no and put it down. Got a 93 (A).
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  85. # [00:38] <@Garbee> I was also done with my US History SOL in like 12 minutes. 60 or 70 questions, and only missed two.
  86. # [00:38] <@Garbee> That system ticked me off so much.
  87. # [00:39] <David_Bradbury> Some teachers are great - But man, some of them. "You solved that faster than me, that isn't possible, you must be cheating"
  88. # [00:39] <@Garbee> My teachers knew better than to pull something like that with me.
  89. # [00:39] <@Garbee> Plus most were so chill. I could basically do anything I wanted in class.
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  91. # [00:39] <@Garbee> Lets take this over to -offtopic, it can get fun.
  92. # [00:39] <David_Bradbury> Hah
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