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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jan 12 00:00:00 2013
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  15. # [01:01] <Dcmartini> Hi there
  16. # [01:02] <Dcmartini> My name is Diego Martini
  17. # [01:02] <Dcmartini> Im from Brazil, I really want to learn how to develop internet systems
  18. # [01:02] <Dcmartini> But Im a completely Nob
  19. # [01:03] <Dcmartini> Wich language should I learn?
  20. # [01:03] <jeffreyatw> do you have a specific goal in mind?
  21. # [01:03] <jeffreyatw> do you have a company you work for, or want to work for? a project you are working on?
  22. # [01:04] <jeffreyatw> because it doesn't matter what language you learn.
  23. # [01:04] <Dcmartini> <jeffreyatw> I have a goal, at least I know what I want to develop
  24. # [01:05] <jeffreyatw> what do you want to develop?
  25. # [01:05] <Dcmartini> I have 2 businesses but has not to do with developping or technology
  26. # [01:05] <Dcmartini> It would be a system to control and manage construction site
  27. # [01:05] <Dcmartini> sites
  28. # [01:06] <jeffreyatw> is this something you want to build yourself? do you intend to take on the prior research, design, development, QA all on your own?
  29. # [01:07] <jeffreyatw> or do you intend to have people at your businesses work on this as a team?
  30. # [01:08] <Dcmartini> To be honest I would like to make a businesses out of that
  31. # [01:08] <Dcmartini> I would like to develop a start system
  32. # [01:08] <jeffreyatw> what sort of information do you need to manage?
  33. # [01:08] <Dcmartini> Make it work simples tasks, and then go fund raising to get a group together
  34. # [01:09] <Dcmartini> I think I would start with quotations...
  35. # [01:09] <Dcmartini> Schedeles
  36. # [01:09] <Dcmartini> schedules
  37. # [01:09] <jeffreyatw> i don't know anything about managing a construction site but i assume you need to manage a workforce, keep contacts, manage contracts, store blueprints, inventory information, etc., etc...
  38. # [01:10] <Dcmartini> Yeah, something like that
  39. # [01:10] <jeffreyatw> do you know of any tools that do this already? have you looked at any potential competition?
  40. # [01:10] <Dcmartini> There is none competition
  41. # [01:10] <Dcmartini> Nothing on web
  42. # [01:10] <Dcmartini> free to be used
  43. # [01:11] <Dcmartini> At least here in Brazil
  44. # [01:11] <jeffreyatw> what do you mean by "free"
  45. # [01:11] <jeffreyatw> as in, zero-cost?
  46. # [01:11] <Dcmartini> Yeah
  47. # [01:11] <jeffreyatw> why do you want to develop a free product?
  48. # [01:11] <Dcmartini> As in the people sing in, and be able to use the system
  49. # [01:11] <jeffreyatw> what benefit is it to you?
  50. # [01:11] <Dcmartini> For now, information
  51. # [01:11] <Dcmartini> I have a construction business
  52. # [01:12] <Dcmartini> It would be interested
  53. # [01:12] <Dcmartini> But the free part
  54. # [01:12] <Dcmartini> has a reason
  55. # [01:13] <Dcmartini> Everything is going to be on the cloud at the cloud very soon
  56. # [01:13] <jeffreyatw> I think you might be better off talking with a product development company that can help you through the tough questions
  57. # [01:13] <Dcmartini> Today people share a lot, but nothing financial....
  58. # [01:13] <jeffreyatw> i think if you're considering what programming language to use, you're approaching it the wrong way
  59. # [01:14] <Dcmartini> Programs are very expensive
  60. # [01:14] <Dcmartini> How should I approach
  61. # [01:14] <Dcmartini> ?
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  63. # [01:15] <jeffreyatw> https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=PMqFDeeQ-rYZ7ebBqDiDJg&cp=34&gs_id=3&xhr=t&q=product+development+company+brazil&pf=p&safe=off&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=product+development+company+brazil&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.cGE&fp=70f902665fe3d8c&biw=1365&bih=855
  64. # [01:16] <jeffreyatw> there are probably a large number of good product development companies in brazil
  65. # [01:16] <Dcmartini> Do you think I should contract a developer company to do?
  66. # [01:16] <jeffreyatw> yes i do
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  69. # [01:17] <jeffreyatw> i think talking with some of these companies would probably give you a much better idea of the product you want to develop, what's possible, what's been done
  70. # [01:17] <Dcmartini> I see
  71. # [01:17] <Dcmartini> Thank you
  72. # [01:17] <jeffreyatw> you're going to have to hire people to help with your product
  73. # [01:18] <Dcmartini> The main problem is the big investment
  74. # [01:18] <jeffreyatw> either you hire them yourself or you find a company that has proven itself by hiring good people
  75. # [01:19] <Dcmartini> But I guess I will have to find some company at least to understand everything about what I want
  76. # [01:19] <jeffreyatw> i think you do
  77. # [01:19] <Dcmartini> True
  78. # [01:19] <jeffreyatw> if money is the problem, maybe you should first discuss the idea with investors
  79. # [01:19] <Dcmartini> Once again, thank you
  80. # [01:19] <jeffreyatw> you're welcome
  81. # [01:19] <Dcmartini> Have a good evening
  82. # [01:19] <jeffreyatw> you too!
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  119. # [03:17] <@arkhi> Good morning and happy new year all!
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  252. # [16:00] <hijs> Hello
  253. # [16:01] <eighty4> evening
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  256. # [16:03] <hijs> Are you just talking about webplatform.org here or general problems, too?
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  258. # [16:06] <@ravenzz> wp mostly
  259. # [16:07] <@Garbee> hijs, #web is best for asking for technical support.
  260. # [16:07] <@Garbee> ^^on general code issues.
  261. # [16:07] <@ravenzz> you can join #weplatform-offtopic or just tell us what is it about so we can suggest the proper channel where to ask
  262. # [16:09] <hijs> I#m the only one in #weplatform-offtopic
  263. # [16:10] <@ravenzz> my bad #webplatform-offtopic
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