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  128. # [10:00] <maksimr> p
  129. # [10:00] <@ravenzz> p to you maksimr :D
  130. # [10:01] <maksimr> and you ravenzz :D
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  323. # [21:14] <lleonard> So, um...any WPD editors about?
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  325. # [21:17] <@ravenzz> there should be some I guess :)
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  329. # [21:18] <lleonard> Well, I'm working on some edits and wanted to ask a quick question about the Javascript_data_types page.
  330. # [21:19] <@ravenzz> of course, just ask
  331. # [21:19] <lleonard> The page doesn't include DOMString. I'd like to add it, but the instructions say to get a SGTM from the channel.
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  333. # [21:21] <lleonard> Certain DOM parameters are of type DOMString, rather then String. It would help, I think, to be precise.
  334. # [21:21] <@ravenzz> uhm not sure about that, but shouldn't it go under the DOM docs?
  335. # [21:22] <lleonard> Perhaps, but it's also a DOM type.
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  337. # [21:22] <dontcallmedom> lleonard, how would that distinction be actually useful, though?
  338. # [21:23] <dontcallmedom> (I mean, it matters for browser makers, but in practice, how does it help developers?)
  339. # [21:23] <lleonard> Well, I haven't tested, but is DOMString === String?
  340. # [21:23] <lleonard> If not, then it's an important distinction to avoid subtle (and hard to find) bugs.
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  343. # [21:24] <dontcallmedom> the DOMString definition is at http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#idl-DOMString
  344. # [21:25] <dontcallmedom> which I understand to mean that DOMString is a superset of strings
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  346. # [21:26] <@ravenzz> "For Java and ECMAScript, DOMString is bound to the String type because both languages also use UTF-16 as their encoding."
  347. # [21:27] <dontcallmedom> yes, but "Nothing in this specification requires a DOMString value to be a valid UTF-16 string. For example, a DOMString value might include unmatched surrogate pair characters."
  348. # [21:27] <dontcallmedom> hmm... "The result of converting an IDL DOMString value to an ECMAScript value is the String value that represents the same sequence of code units that the IDL DOMString represents. "
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  350. # [21:29] <@ravenzz> eh I mean, how important is for one who is learning JavaScript, js data types, to know that?
  351. # [21:29] <dontcallmedom> I agree
  352. # [21:30] <lleonard> For learning? Probably not much. However, for maintence, quite a bit. If DOMString changes to a different definition, but string does not, then someone will need to make lots of tiny little edits, all similar.
  353. # [21:30] <dontcallmedom> that seems premature optimization; the chances of DOMString definition ever changing are extremely low
  354. # [21:30] <lleonard> Since the WebIDL for IndexedDB defines parameter types as DOMString, I would prefer to use that in the description.
  355. # [21:32] <lleonard> If the community disagrees, fair enough. But I thought it worth asking.
  356. # [21:33] <@ravenzz> yeah that's legit
  357. # [21:33] <dontcallmedom> I think to get a broader sense from the community, you might want to send a mail to public-webplatform@w3.org FWIW
  358. # [21:33] <lleonard> I think you're right. :-)
  359. # [21:34] <@ravenzz> I'd suggest you to ask #javascript or wait for more opinions
  360. # [21:34] <@ravenzz> or what dontcallmedom said
  361. # [21:36] <lleonard> Will do; thanks!
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