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  25. # [02:07] <onei> how do you access the api on webplatform? ?api.php doesn't seem to be supported
  26. # [02:16] <@arkhi> Hello onei
  27. # [02:16] <onei> hi arkhi
  28. # [02:16] <@arkhi> What kind of thing are you trying to achieve?
  29. # [02:17] <@arkhi> Don’t know of any public API so far.
  30. # [02:17] <onei> I'm looking for the interwiki map to link to semantic mediawiki with a prefix, like mediawiki is mw:
  31. # [02:17] <onei> I found it though - http://docs.webplatform.org/w/api.php
  32. # [02:18] <onei> and semantic mediawiki isn't on there
  33. # [02:20] <@arkhi> onei: Did you have a look at http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Implementation_Patterns ?
  34. # [02:20] <onei> Yeah, that's what I was looking to fix up a little
  35. # [02:24] <@arkhi> I won’t be of much more help here, I’m afraid.
  36. # [02:25] <@arkhi> Interested about your outcomes though.
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  364. # [22:29] <Bubo> Hey guys
  365. # [22:30] <@Garbee> Hello.
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  367. # [22:30] <Bubo> Any good book recommendation for front-end development?
  368. # [22:30] <Bubo> HTML/5, CSS/3, JS, jQuery
  369. # [22:31] <@Garbee> Books tend to get outdated quickly, two come to mind though that come recommended. Let me go grab some links.
  370. # [22:31] <Bubo> Garbee: are those two outdated?
  371. # [22:32] <@Garbee> Not really, one is just basics. This one: http://www.amazon.com/HTML-CSS-Design-Build-Websites/dp/1118008189/ref=sr_1_1
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  375. # [22:33] <@Garbee> This one is HTML5 specific, but pretty detailed in things outside of just building a web page. It is more towards building applications using the new APIs in HTML5. http://www.amazon.com/Pro-HTML5-Programming-Professional-Apress/dp/143023864X/ref=sr_1_1
  376. # [22:33] <Bubo> I am fairly good with HTML and CSS. Does it have "best-practices" section, that is what I am looking for.
  377. # [22:33] <@Garbee> Ok, that can never really be written in a book. :P
  378. # [22:34] <Bubo> I'll check them out, thanks.
  379. # [22:34] <@Garbee> By the time it is printed it is old.
  380. # [22:34] <Bubo> Haha, yeah I know.
  381. # [22:34] <@Garbee> Best practices are best kept up with by following people online and certain blogs.
  382. # [22:34] <@Garbee> Perhaps we need to make a list on WPD somewhere...
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  384. # [22:36] <Bubo> Yes, that would be helpful.
  385. # [22:37] <@Garbee> Well, we need to see if it is something that we would want. I don't really see where it fits too well into our actual documentation.
  386. # [22:37] <@Garbee> Here is a good starting point though: http://paulirish.com/2012/developers-we-admire/
  387. # [22:37] <Bubo> Maybe there can be a "best-practices" section?
  388. # [22:38] <@Garbee> Well, they evolve pretty regularly. Really it would just be the content itself.
  389. # [22:39] <@Garbee> Keeping the main docs up-to-date.
  390. # [22:40] <@Garbee> Really another issue is the "best practices" such as responsive web design currently are actually still being developed.
  391. # [22:40] <@Garbee> We all tend to favor RWD, but the norms are still being tested and changing.
  392. # [22:40] <Bubo> Yeah
  393. # [22:40] <Bubo> How about AJAX? Will there be a tutorial on it? Maybe jQuery later on?
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  395. # [22:41] <@Garbee> Javascript frameworks, maybe. We need to discuss that. Honestly I'm against it since that adds a lot of extra work when that community can take care of it.
  396. # [22:41] <@Garbee> AJAX, if we don't already we should have some docs.
  397. # [22:42] <Bubo> I am currently going through the JS tutorial
  398. # [22:43] <Bubo> That's why I am asking.
  399. # [22:43] <Bubo> How about stuff like SQL and PHP? Or will you stick with HTML, JS, CSS?
  400. # [22:44] <@Garbee> PHP, no. As well as SQL.
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  403. # [22:44] <@Garbee> They may be well used, but aren't standards.
  404. # [22:44] <Bubo> Yeah
  405. # [22:50] <@Garbee> php.net does just fine docs. Why should we replicate that?
  406. # [22:50] <@Garbee> Plus there are many security considerations for demo code. Plus practices there vary heavily between different people.
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