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  271. # [19:58] <dbazuin> If I don't want to support IE <9 are there any reasons to avoid svg?
  272. # [19:58] <@shepazu> dbazuin, no
  273. # [19:59] <dbazuin> great
  274. # [19:59] <@shepazu> it works very well on all modern browsers, including mobiles
  275. # [19:59] <dbazuin> and it scales very nice
  276. # [19:59] <dbazuin> just toying with sketch
  277. # [20:00] <dbazuin> http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/
  278. # [20:05] <@Garbee> dbazuin, If you *need* IE <9 for some reason, Modernizr is nice for support detection and making older IE's do what they can if you provide a JPG or PNG.
  279. # [20:05] <@Garbee> I am looking at doing SVG stuff, but will use server-side tech to do fallback for legacy IE.
  280. # [20:06] <dbazuin> Garbee: thanks
  281. # [20:06] <dbazuin> what about adding a popup for chrome frame?
  282. # [20:07] <@Garbee> I avoid Chrome Frame tbh.
  283. # [20:08] <@Garbee> You can give it a shot though.
  284. # [20:08] <dbazuin> never used it
  285. # [20:08] <@Garbee> But the people this site targets, won't install CF.
  286. # [20:08] <dbazuin> ow ok
  287. # [20:08] <@Garbee> CF is nice, but the people need to *chose* to install it.
  288. # [20:08] <@Garbee> Otherwise it is useless.
  289. # [20:08] <dbazuin> thats where it is all about do
  290. # [20:08] <dbazuin> who do you target
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  292. # [20:08] <@Garbee> And if they won't install a new browser, why would they install CF?
  293. # [20:08] <dbazuin> good point
  294. # [20:09] <@Garbee> CF is nice for businesses where you needed older IE for some reason but the tech guys are smart and want support.
  295. # [20:09] <@Garbee> Other than that, in the wild it is pretty useless imho.
  296. # [20:09] <dbazuin> the site I was thinking about will be a new one for me
  297. # [20:09] <@Garbee> And now Chrome has selective force IE for domains. So CF has even less of a point in my mind.
  298. # [20:09] <dbazuin> so the target will mostly use chrome and safari I guess
  299. # [20:09] <@Garbee> I mean, if it is targeted at tech people, don't even worry about it.
  300. # [20:10] <dbazuin> I ma a drupal sitebuilder/themer
  301. # [20:10] <@Garbee> I'm personally putting a kill on anything under IE 8. And even that will be getting phased out ASAP. Perhaps even before XP death.
  302. # [20:10] <dbazuin> and it is not for clients just other Drupal friends :-)
  303. # [20:11] <dbazuin> IE <8 is dead I think
  304. # [20:11] <@Garbee> In that case, I wouldn't worry about IE at all under 9 (perhaps even 10 now tbh) and let people who need to support older IE worry about making it work.
  305. # [20:11] <dbazuin> Thats why I ask my initial question :-0
  306. # [20:11] <dbazuin> :-)
  307. # [20:12] <dbazuin> IE7 is about 0,6%
  308. # [20:13] <dbazuin> and IE8 5.5&
  309. # [20:13] <dbazuin> or somwhere there anbout
  310. # [20:13] <@Garbee> Yea, but when that IE8 makes up ~20% of your user base...
  311. # [20:13] <dbazuin> so pff
  312. # [20:13] <dbazuin> possible yes
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  314. # [20:14] <dbazuin> When I do sites for our compagny the just switcht to IE9
  315. # [20:14] <dbazuin> so a few weeks back that would be a problem
  316. # [20:15] <dbazuin> anyhow thansk for the info
  317. # [20:15] <dbazuin> I need to do some more git tuts
  318. # [20:15] <@Garbee> Your welcome. Enjoy the SVG goodness!
  319. # [20:15] <dbazuin> you to
  320. # [20:15] <@Garbee> Git = epicly fun.
  321. # [20:15] <dbazuin> you use git?
  322. # [20:15] <@Garbee> http://bitbucket.org = free private repos.
  323. # [20:15] <@Garbee> Yup.
  324. # [20:15] <dbazuin> I use bitbucket
  325. # [20:15] <dbazuin> and can use git
  326. # [20:16] <@Garbee> Github for anything public, private stuff on bitbucket.
  327. # [20:16] <dbazuin> but now I want to know it all :-)
  328. # [20:16] <@Garbee> progit
  329. # [20:16] <@Garbee> http://git-scm.com/book ---free online.
  330. # [20:16] * dbazuin read the git parrable
  331. # [20:16] <dbazuin> I doing tuts on drupalize.me
  332. # [20:16] <dbazuin> payed accout do
  333. # [20:17] <dbazuin> http://tom.preston-werner.com/2009/05/19/the-git-parable.html
  334. # [20:17] <dbazuin> very good story
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