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  10. # [00:38] <gregwhitworth> julee: did you get my email from Wednesday night?
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  16. # [01:03] <julee> gregwhitworth: I got it! Looks good! Thanks for doing examples, as well!
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  758. # [18:31] <firststepinwebde> hey im reading http://learn.shayhowe.com/html-css/ which is probably the best guide currently on the entire Web (though it's long-winded in how it explains things), still near the beginning so not sure if it's the best yet. i already read basics from a whole bunch of sources and none of them are really good, a few part may be decent, but i have to combine all that knowledge from the good parts of differenet sources
  759. # [18:31] <firststepinwebde> question -- "flow of data" and the "box nature of html" seems like the first thing someone new should know and this guide doesnt to cover it, any guides for that?
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  762. # [18:40] <firststepinwebde> like http://learn.shayhowe.com/html-css/box-model says nothing about flow of data, or how the boxes get presented
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  768. # [18:48] <firststepinwebde> ok http://learn.shayhowe.com/html-css/box-model#floating-elements tells me how to generally position elements/boxes, i've always thought this was done by css. maybe css is a better way. if it is this guide should've told me by now.
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  770. # [18:52] <firststepinwebde> http://learn.shayhowe.com/html-css/box-model#positioning-elements tells me that "The default position value is static, which keeps elements within their normal flow\" -- exactly what's the "normal flow"? how does it work??
  771. # [18:52] <firststepinwebde> hey im reading http://learn.shayhowe.com/html-css/ which is probably the best guide currently on the entire Web (came out recently, though it's long-winded in how it explains things), still near the beginning so not sure if it's the best yet. i already read basics from a whole bunch of sources and none of them are really good, a few part may be decent, but i have to combine all that knowledge (some useless, some outdate
  772. # [18:53] <firststepinwebde> question -- any good guides on the "flow of data"
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  774. # [18:59] <@frozenice> firststepinwebde: you would be better off with your question in channels like #web #html #html5 or #css :) this isn't really the place
  775. # [18:59] <firststepinwebde> ok ill try those
  776. # [18:59] <@frozenice> gl on your journey!
  777. # [18:59] <firststepinwebde> umm do those belong to webplatform or are they different?
  778. # [18:59] <@frozenice> they don't belong to webplatform
  779. # [19:00] <@frozenice> this is really just about the site webplatform.org itself
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  781. # [19:00] <@frozenice> on which you can also find several tutorials etc.!
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  783. # [19:00] <firststepinwebde> ok where is tutorial on the "flow of data"?
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  789. # [19:08] <firststepinwebde> ok http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/guides/the_basics_of_html#Block_level_and_inline_elements doesnt even have any examples of block and inline and if i was new, i would be compltely lost, but since i have basic knowledge, then now i know this is really bad, yes it's in alpha, not an excuse.
  790. # [19:08] <firststepinwebde> had this one copy/past -- btw all you web dev should know that there are no good guides (decent info but very fragmented) -- i know the best of web on every topic, and im telling you there are no good guides for this (as for webplatform, i couldn't find anything helpful on thsi site, yes, it's still in alpha but not an excuse) -- the mozilla dev pages for this has similar problems, doesnt show how something, etc.
  791. # [19:08] <firststepinwebde> bye
  792. # [19:08] <firststepinwebde> oh also the structure, order of the tutorial is really really bad
  793. # [19:08] <firststepinwebde> any new person would be lost
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  1001. # [23:56] * _cheney- is now known as _cheney
  1002. # Session Close: Sun May 12 00:00:00 2013

The end :)