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  269. # [18:20] <tmahoney> frozenice: How can I get the return value description for a a method using the API? I'm trying Return_value_description, but it's not working. http://docs.webplatform.org/w/api.php?action=ask&query=[[Path::dom/methods/appendChild]]|?Return_value_description
  270. # [18:24] <@frozenice> tmahoney: seems like there is no poperty for that yet
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  272. # [18:25] <tmahoney> frozenice: It's weird though. There's no property on the object, but it looks like there's one here: http://docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?title=dom/methods/appendChild&action=edit
  273. # [18:25] <tmahoney> I can get Return_value_name and Javascript_data_type, but not Return_value_description.
  274. # [18:25] <@frozenice> yup :) because those have properties set
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  277. # [18:27] <tmahoney> frozenice: Is there anything I can do? The data for the description is saved somewhere (it shows on the method page), so how can I access it?
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  281. # [18:30] <@frozenice> tmahoney: I added the property, could take a while though until it propagates through all pages
  282. # [18:31] <tmahoney> frozenice: Nice! That's awesome. Thank you so much.
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  284. # [18:31] <@frozenice> np :)
  285. # [18:31] <@shepazu> thanks, frozenice! can you document that?
  286. # [18:31] <@frozenice> uhm
  287. # [18:32] <@frozenice> wouldn't know where :P
  288. # [18:32] <@shepazu> frozenice, http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:api :)
  289. # [18:35] <tmahoney> frozenice: Last time I asked you about the API, you pointed me here: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Frozenice/API_Examples. I added the 'Disovering properties' section. Is that something that should be in that Meta:api page instead?
  290. # [18:35] <@frozenice> guess so
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  292. # [18:36] <@shepazu> frozenice, tmahoney, I copied frozenice's stuff and put it in a central location with some other stuff
  293. # [18:36] <@shepazu> to make it a bit more discoverable
  294. # [18:36] <@shepazu> feel free to help us document it, tmahoney
  295. # [18:37] <@shepazu> as you're using it :)
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  297. # [18:37] <@frozenice> btw tmahoney, you can get rid of Path::
  298. # [18:38] <tmahoney> frozenice: Oh cool. Thanks. I've actually been using Method_applies_to:: to get multiple methods at once, so the Path:: was just a quicky.
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  301. # [18:39] <@frozenice> Path is a custom property we set, but without it SMW actually looks for a page with that title, so that should be a bit quicker!
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  305. # [18:46] <@frozenice> shepazu: any reason why it's Meta: and not WPD:?
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  307. # [18:47] <@frozenice> I propose a move to WPD:API! :)
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  310. # [18:50] <@frozenice> motion carried.
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  337. # [19:24] <@shepazu> frozenice, I was trying to move away from the confusing "WPD:" namespace
  338. # [19:24] <@shepazu> to the more intuitive "Meta:"
  339. # [19:24] <@frozenice> I thought Meta is a wasteland
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  341. # [19:26] <@Garbee> How is WPD a confusing namespace?
  342. # [19:26] <@Garbee> And, Meta is a wasteland of old content...
  343. # [19:26] <@Garbee> It should be looked through so any useful content is gotten out and then purged before we go into doing anything with it.
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  357. # [19:56] <buggy> when i login to doc.webplatform , the cookies seems to not save when i get to talk.webplatform.org/forums/ as im logged out only on that page. this happens on latest version of chrome and firefox so maybe an update broke this? advise please
  358. # [19:56] <@shepazu> buggy, we had some problems on the furums
  359. # [19:56] <@shepazu> forums
  360. # [19:57] <@shepazu> especially with sharing accounts
  361. # [19:57] <buggy> but this has a while and ppl have questions :/
  362. # [19:57] <buggy> simple ones
  363. # [19:57] <buggy> what does that mean?
  364. # [19:57] <buggy> im trying to fix this
  365. # [19:57] <buggy> anything i can do on my end?
  366. # [19:58] <@shepazu> buggy, we didn't have enough people answering questions or monitoring the forums, so we're temporarily retiring them
  367. # [19:58] <@shepazu> sorry about that :(
  368. # [19:59] <@shepazu> we're concentrating on improving the content on the wiki first
  369. # [19:59] <buggy> oh yes i just saw the dates -- http://talk.webplatform.org/forums/ ..... i agree tho wiki content first instead of fragmented info
  370. # [19:59] <@Garbee> The Forum auth is completely offline now iirc.
  371. # [19:59] <buggy> are you guys focusing on a good guide though instead of just docs
  372. # [19:59] <@Garbee> We took that offline first and are waiting to deprecate and remove the entire system.
  373. # [20:00] <buggy> guides are far better for any beginners, i know some by now, but references/docs arent really the way, so what's webplatform's plan on that?
  374. # [20:00] <@Garbee> We are working on guides as well.
  375. # [20:00] <@shepazu> buggy, we do plan to do guides soon
  376. # [20:00] <@Garbee> The Beginner's Guide is already being worked on.
  377. # [20:01] <@Garbee> http://project.webplatform.org/content/issues/41 --An overview of what is going on there.
  378. # [20:01] <@shepazu> Garbee, actually, W3C's accessibility people are going to repurpose the QA forums specifically for accessibility, and we have a person who will monitor and run them
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  380. # [20:02] <buggy> try 90% guide 10% ref please, i can look it over and give very detail "wtf" is this, "why is this not explain", i can help and and expert newbie by now, im so upset with the state of the web when i comes to learning -- anything i can help with on the guide front?
  381. # [20:03] <buggy> tons of ref out there, not enough guides
  382. # [20:03] <@Garbee> buggy, WPD is comprehensive docs.
  383. # [20:03] <@Garbee> We will do guides and reference material. Each as-needed. There is no exact ratio to good docs.
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  385. # [20:04] <@Garbee> Also, depending on where you are looking specifically pages haven't yet been looked at and worked on to be brought really "into" WPD. Still quite a bit of things from the import that haven't been touched.
  386. # [20:04] <buggy> well anything i can do to help, im not sure how good "comprehensive" will to be new people or even semi-new like me which counts for the vast majority of society
  387. # [20:04] <@Garbee> So you may be seeing things that are actually just brought in from other places which makes them seem *really* out of place.
  388. # [20:05] <@Garbee> comprehensive will be just fine for complete beginners and seasoned veterans of the compatibility wars. ;)
  389. # [20:05] <@Garbee> Everyone should be able to find what they need on WPD for doing awesome web work.
  390. # [20:05] <@shepazu> buggy, are you interested in helping with the guides, or do you not feel experienced enough yet?
  391. # [20:06] <buggy> i want to help on the guide front if there's anything for the reasons stated above, "comprehensive will be just fine for complete beginners" -- is there any at the current time that you can link so i review it, and give you the most objective answer from a non-web dev, non-partial viewpoint
  392. # [20:07] <buggy> i can help guides in reviewing, not writing as semi-new is basically meaning "not up to par"
  393. # [20:07] <buggy> im really really upset by all this, been weeks
  394. # [20:08] <@shepazu> buggy, there's this: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/beginners
  395. # [20:08] <buggy> and i've learn lots in other fields, just not the technical front
  396. # [20:08] <@shepazu> buggy, well, to be fair, we're still in alpha, we haven't yet launched the main site
  397. # [20:08] <@shepazu> I mean, we haven't had the main launch
  398. # [20:08] <@shepazu> we're still working on it
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  400. # [20:09] <@shepazu> there are many resources out there now, like MDN, that you might also find useful
  401. # [20:10] <buggy> i've on the entire Web, it's not this site, it's the entire state of learning on this topic, i think i trying to check on how accurateness this statement was, "comprehensive will be just fine for complete beginners" -- so im not sure if that link is a guide or doc, as im suppose to review "one comprehensive" doc to see
  402. # [20:10] <buggy> i've been*
  403. # [20:10] <buggy> i was trying*
  404. # [20:11] <buggy> how accurate* OR the accurateness*
  405. # [20:11] <buggy> you get the point..
  406. # [20:11] <buggy> ok which on http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/beginners is considered "comprehensive"?
  407. # [20:12] <buggy> i just dont thnk that is the right direction, i want to make sure
  408. # [20:12] <buggy> for any projects to be taking when it comes to improving the state of learning
  409. # [20:13] <@shepazu> buggy, I'm sorry you're frustrated, and we do hope to be the best place to learn web programming in the future… but we're simply not there yet, and we can't do everything at once
  410. # [20:15] <buggy> ok so i checked my extensive notes which i have on many many topics, i have logged ~100+ hours and i believe my progress has been signficant
  411. # [20:16] <buggy> ok well if anything "comprehensive" now ofc that ok, i personally am planning to learn in the future
  412. # [20:16] <buggy> what i said was this -- [13:04] <buggy> well anything i can do to help, im not sure how good "comprehensive" will to be new people or even semi-new like me which counts for the vast majority of society
  413. # [20:17] <buggy> the issue was a strong request for guides above all, and that i wasnt sure about this direction of docs, at least when it comes to this target audience of new types
  414. # [20:18] <@shepazu> buggy, we do appreciate offers of help! and I agree that most people are in need of tutorials and guides
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  416. # [20:18] <@shepazu> buggy, right now, though, we are concentrating on our reference docs, and will be working on guides later
  417. # [20:18] <@shepazu> one thing at a time, given our limited resources
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  419. # [20:23] <@shepazu> buggy, the thing we need most is not review, but content contributors
  420. # [20:24] <buggy> yes for the doc goal, though what if that isn't a worthy goal when there is already a main ref site like mdn
  421. # [20:24] <@shepazu> buggy, for tutorials as well
  422. # [20:24] <buggy> then it would be more key to review to see if the result is what is actually good for the vast majority of scoeity
  423. # [20:25] <buggy> well flow layout is a topic that needs tutorials, anything i know i dont understand enough to write something good
  424. # [20:25] <buggy> on this topic
  425. # [20:26] <buggy> ok well... thanks :/ i had already postpone this for 2017, think it was just on my mind -- something triggered it, i forgot what
  426. # [20:26] <@shepazu> buggy, true, any tutorials will need review… but they need to be written first :)
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  428. # [20:26] <@shepazu> um… ok
  429. # [20:27] <@shepazu> well, we have a new goal: 2017
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  433. # [20:35] <@Garbee> :(
  434. # [20:35] <@Garbee> I had to step out.
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  436. # [20:36] <@Garbee> Oh well. Maybe we will be good enough in 2017 for that person...
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  438. # [20:38] <@shepazu> Garbee, it's a tricky situation
  439. # [20:38] <@shepazu> it's great that we have people volunteering to help review
  440. # [20:38] <@shepazu> especially from a "newbie's" perspective
  441. # [20:38] <@shepazu> but we aren't really ready to use that help
  442. # [20:38] <@shepazu> we need experts, not newbies
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  445. # [20:42] <@Garbee> Yea. I'm just 'advanced' by most accounts most likely.
  446. # [20:42] <@Garbee> But the past few months for me have basically been non-existant as far as *doing* things since I have been taking care of my mom due to her foot. That is over now, but it is catch-up time + being productive again. 3 months is *a lot* to catch up on.
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  448. # [20:45] <@Garbee> I'm not basically involved in 4 or 5 projects helping do docs since I got involved with two more over that time. So, I really need to do time management well now. ;)
  449. # [20:45] <@Garbee> I'm pushing out TBG docs and working on this sendgrid mod for it next week. Zegenie added some event hooks the other day for me to do that mod, so hopefully it will just fall together without much effort.
  450. # [20:46] <@Garbee> I still don't get why sendgrid seems to be failing for us with TBG.
  451. # [20:46] <@Garbee> er, the SMTP to sendgrid.
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  453. # [20:47] <@Garbee> frozenice, If you know where error logs are stored for the bug genie install (and if we have access to them) please let me know. I should probably look there and see if I can't replicate it somehow.
  454. # [20:47] * @Garbee is out for a bit.
  455. # [20:50] <@frozenice> hm, I don't think there are logs
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  467. # [21:18] <@Garbee> frozenice, There are logs somewhere.
  468. # [21:18] <@Garbee> Probably under /var/logs/apache2 and we wouldn't have access there I think.
  469. # [21:21] <@frozenice> there's a thebuggenie.log in the main dir, but it's empty
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  472. # [21:29] <@Garbee> frozenice, Something interesting from microformats... A 'spammer' was blocked and they emailed in asking for it to be lifted since they are a 'legitimate' business wanting to contribute.
  473. # [21:29] <@Garbee> Kindof interesting one actually responded to blocking.
  474. # [21:29] <@frozenice> strange
  475. # [21:30] <@Garbee> Yea, they were clearly spammers though. Starting off with putting links to your site into the wiki on the content pages... Yea, great first move to contributing content.
  476. # [21:31] <@Garbee> iirc the block was lifted, but needless to say they are on a close watch I'd think.
  477. # [21:33] <@Garbee> shepazu, Someone on the comments for the Main_Page also recommended and 'experts' section to the beginner guide.
  478. # [21:33] <@Garbee> Sounded like a strange request.
  479. # [21:34] <@Garbee> (I asked for clerification of what would go there, no response.)
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  481. # [21:35] <@shepazu> Garbee, I think what they must have meant was tutorials and guides both for Beginners and Experts
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  483. # [21:35] <@Garbee> But, the new look to the comments does seem like more are using it.
  484. # [21:35] <@shepazu> Garbee, well, I'd like for the comments to intergrate into Bug Genie… that would be great
  485. # [21:36] <@Garbee> hmm yea. Perhaps they just meant move the beginner's guide link out and make a beginner's and expert's guide. Have those in their own section.
  486. # [21:36] <brbcoding> Am I supposed to have a different account for http://talk.webplatform.org/forums/ vs http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page
  487. # [21:36] <brbcoding> ?
  488. # [21:36] <@Garbee> First let's look at getting the email working with TBG. It seems to be breaking a lot for julee for no apparent reason.
  489. # [21:37] <@Garbee> brbcoding, Don't worry about the q&A section.
  490. # [21:37] <@Garbee> And it did have some halfway working SSO, we took that off for the time being.
  491. # [21:38] <@Garbee> We are basically going to purge everything in that DB. Perhaps just shift it to look at a new DB for when whatever new thing the Accessibility group is doing with it comes into play.
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  493. # [21:39] <brbcoding> ah, ok
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