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  212. # [14:53] <goschbei> spricht hier jemand ein wenig deutsch? Okay ich bin Anfänger was css anbelangt ...
  213. # [14:55] <goschbei> well I can write in English,too ... but my English is not so good ...have a question about the site itself ...
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  215. # [14:58] <goschbei> can somebody help me please regarding a special css3 code?
  216. # [14:59] <rsimpson> What is the special css3 code you need help with?
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  219. # [15:02] <goschbei> first of all thank you very much for your time - I come from Germany and need your help. Found your great website ...okay I start. A few days ago I saw on your great website a little blue logo top right. Created with css3. Wanted to recreate it ... I worked with: after and: before but unfortunately without success so far...can you tell me the code how do you managed it
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  221. # [15:09] <goschbei> do you know what I mean? I have tried and tried ... but the text remains not in the box...I changed the color that is no problem and I know now that is possible with "the triangles-method". But I don' know the code associated with: before and: after
  222. # [15:12] <rsimpson> What site is this?
  223. # [15:15] <goschbei> I have seen it here: docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page below Edit ... it was very nice
  224. # [15:17] <rsimpson> Are you referring to the EDIT drop down?
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  226. # [15:19] <goschbei> yes below that. It was a very great logo ... overlapped almost ... may I send you please my css code ... and that you can look a liitle bit
  227. # [15:20] <goschbei> sorry for my English
  228. # [15:21] <rsimpson> No problem at all. You can add your css to http://code.webplatform.org/ for me/us to take a look at what you have
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  231. # [15:22] <goschbei> I can post my css code here ...
  232. # [15:23] <goschbei> but is without the pseudo classes
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  235. # [15:32] <rsimpson> It would be great if you could use http://code.webplatform.org/ with all of the code that we can help you with
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  338. # [20:03] <@julee> shepazu & nicdaCosta
  339. # [20:03] <@julee> hello!
  340. # [20:05] <@shepazu> hi, julee
  341. # [20:06] <@julee> Happy Monday! Wanna sort the CSS properties on the master list?
  342. # [20:06] <nicdaCosta> Hello :)
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  344. # [20:09] <@julee> nicdaCosta : Looks like shepazu updated the master list here: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/master_list
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  346. # [20:10] <nicdaCosta> awesome! Thanks! Quickly browsing through it
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  349. # [20:12] <@julee> shepazu: I thought you were going to move the properties we've already done out of the master list.
  350. # [20:13] <nicdaCosta> wow...that is a long list...
  351. # [20:13] <nicdaCosta> i was wondering that, if there was a column / flag to check what has been completed
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  353. # [20:19] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, these are all the ones not yet completed
  354. # [20:19] <@shepazu> julee, I did!
  355. # [20:19] <nicdaCosta> o right...
  356. # [20:19] <@shepazu> i may have missed some
  357. # [20:20] <@julee> we've done marge, break-*
  358. # [20:21] <@julee> margin, that is...
  359. # [20:21] <@julee> There are a total of 258 P0-P2 properties we're shooting for.
  360. # [20:21] <@julee> We've done about 90.
  361. # [20:22] <@julee> I would think the master list would have about 168 P0-P2 properties, but it looks like all 258 are there.
  362. # [20:28] <@shepazu> julee, hmmm…. is it possible that my removal technique was screwed up?
  363. # [20:28] * @shepazu looks again
  364. # [20:29] <@julee> Looks like you removed status columns instead of property rows.
  365. # [20:29] <@julee> …just guessing from markup comparison.
  366. # [20:29] <@shepazu> julee, I did that too
  367. # [20:30] <@shepazu> julee, I used excel, which I'm not that familiar with… I may have messed up :(
  368. # [20:30] <@julee> I always say *excel* messed up. ;-)
  369. # [20:31] <@shepazu> lol
  370. # [20:31] <@shepazu> let me try again real quick
  371. # [20:31] <@shepazu> give me 5 minutes
  372. # [20:32] <@julee> Did you mean to kill those columns "Page Exists, Basic facts, Explanatory text, Examples, Links , Review "
  373. # [20:32] <@julee> np
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  375. # [20:34] <@julee> shepazu: before you kill those columns, the properties that have all of that filled out, such as box-shadow and border-radius, maybe should be moved to the wpw page or to their own table of "previously completed" ?
  376. # [20:35] <@shepazu> julee, I didn't really trust those earlier status, because we didn't know what tasks were really completed
  377. # [20:36] <@julee> Then it doesn't hurt to take a second look, but maybe they should be separated as "for review" or something?
  378. # [20:37] <@shepazu> julee, maybe so...
  379. # [20:38] <@julee> The primary task, though is to get a list of P0-P2s that we haven't done yet, so whatever works.
  380. # [20:43] <@julee> brb
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  386. # [20:49] <nicdaCosta> on a small side note... this is fantastic - https://plus.google.com/u/0/102860501900098846931/posts/enQAyatpCZ5 Just the sort of thing that we need :)
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  393. # [20:54] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, julee, I think I'm done
  394. # [20:54] <@shepazu> can you please give me a reality check?
  395. # [20:55] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, can you teach me how to add someone as a poster/manager on G+?
  396. # [20:56] <nicdaCosta> sure, it is super easy :)
  397. # [20:56] <nicdaCosta> in the main left menu, select "pages"
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  399. # [20:57] <nicdaCosta> this link should be able to take you there - https://plus.google.com/u/0/dashboard
  400. # [20:57] <nicdaCosta> you should see all your pages, along with a "manage this page" link. Click the link
  401. # [20:58] <nicdaCosta> this should then take you to the page with you as the manager. You should see a ribbon on the top of the page with various nav options .
  402. # [20:58] <nicdaCosta> select the "Managers" option
  403. # [20:59] <@shepazu> ok, there
  404. # [20:59] <nicdaCosta> There should then be a button on the managers page for adding Managers. Then just enter in the email address of the user and they should get a mail
  405. # [20:59] <nicdaCosta> once they get a mail, they can accept ( as you did ) and that is it. They should then be a manager :)
  406. # [20:59] <@shepazu> maybe that's only visible to owners
  407. # [21:00] <nicdaCosta> busy checking now...
  408. # [21:00] <nicdaCosta> sorry you are right...it seems that the add button is only visible for owners
  409. # [21:00] <@julee> shepazu : master_list looks pretty good to me!
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  411. # [21:01] <@shepazu> julee, nicdaCosta, let's pick some articles!
  412. # [21:01] <nicdaCosta> cool!
  413. # [21:02] <nicdaCosta> shepazu: pm me the email address and i will add them to the wp if you want
  414. # [21:03] <@julee> OK, we've got about 180 left. Let's try to bundle 25 into 7 groups. That way, we'll be done this first pass by 7/31.
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  416. # [21:04] <@shepazu> julee, stop being so rational!
  417. # [21:04] <@julee> somebody's gotta with all these creative minds around! ;-)
  418. # [21:05] <@julee> Did you get to see scottrowe's video yet?
  419. # [21:05] <@julee> cool
  420. # [21:06] <eliezerb> Hey guys
  421. # [21:06] <eliezerb> I have to see that one
  422. # [21:06] <nicdaCosta> hey eliezerb
  423. # [21:06] <eliezerb> :)
  424. # [21:06] <@shepazu> hey, eliezerb
  425. # [21:06] <eliezerb> I'am watching the discussion
  426. # [21:06] <eliezerb> hey shepazu
  427. # [21:07] <nicdaCosta> feel free to jump if at any time :)
  428. # [21:07] <@julee> Hi, eliezerb!
  429. # [21:07] <@shepazu> ok, so, 7 groups… julee, does it make sense for use to make sure the spec references are right?
  430. # [21:07] <eliezerb> Great, I am finishing an app to control a coffee machine remotly, sooner I will join you
  431. # [21:07] <@shepazu> that way, we could sort by spec?
  432. # [21:08] <@shepazu> eliezerb, good priorities
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  434. # [21:08] <@shepazu> eliezerb, thanks again for your help with the units -> data types shift
  435. # [21:08] <@shepazu> I'm glad that's done!
  436. # [21:08] <@julee> shepazu : can you remove margin-* and any obsoletes?
  437. # [21:09] <eliezerb> shepazu: np, you also made a lot of work
  438. # [21:09] <@shepazu> julee, I think I removed all obsoletes, didn't I?
  439. # [21:09] <eliezerb> it was a team work, as always should be
  440. # [21:09] <@shepazu> indeed, eliezerb
  441. # [21:09] <eliezerb> shepazu: just the first step
  442. # [21:09] <@julee> shepazu : Oh there's just one: grid-column-align
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  444. # [21:10] <@shepazu> julee, ahhh, Obsolete was misspelled
  445. # [21:10] <@shepazu> julee, you say all the margin- ones?
  446. # [21:10] <@julee> shepazu: aha!
  447. # [21:10] <@julee> you have WD and ED, instead of spec so I don't think sorting by spec would necessary be useful
  448. # [21:11] <@julee> chrismills did margin,margin-bottom,margin-left,margin-right,margin-top
  449. # [21:11] <@shepazu> julee, well, we could add all the ED specs if you like, instead… we need to do that at some point anyway
  450. # [21:12] <nicdaCosta> ED,WD? sorry new kid on the block is not up to scratch with all the lingo...i pressume working draft and edited draft?
  451. # [21:12] <@julee> editor's draft; working draft - status of spec
  452. # [21:13] <nicdaCosta> aaah, was close. Thanks :)
  453. # [21:13] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, yeah… Editor's Drafts are more up-to-date, typically, so julee suggested we point to those rather than more "stable" drafts
  454. # [21:14] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, don't be shy about asking questions, it will help us to explain
  455. # [21:14] <nicdaCosta> am i correct in saying that the editor's draft could change at any time as it is still in progress?
  456. # [21:14] <nicdaCosta> thanks, will try not be too shy :)
  457. # [21:14] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, technically, yes, but in practice, it's usually more accurate
  458. # [21:14] <@shepazu> julee, removed the dupe and the margin-s
  459. # [21:15] <nicdaCosta> that is cool. As last thing we need is to link to a spec that "changed" overnight as was just a draft and the user was none the wiser
  460. # [21:17] <@shepazu> so, julee, nicdaCosta, if we each split up the list and did a quick google search for each of those properties, "W3C editor's draft <prop name>", we could have consistent links for each, and that would save us time later
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  462. # [21:17] <@shepazu> though I know that seems like a lot of work… 60 each
  463. # [21:17] <@shepazu> maybe we could get others on this IRC channel to help?
  464. # [21:17] <nicdaCosta> i fine with that. won't take long. And the more the better :)
  465. # [21:18] <@shepazu> scottrowe____, are you actually there?
  466. # [21:18] <eliezerb> If it is simples I could help
  467. # [21:19] <eliezerb> :)
  468. # [21:19] <@shepazu> eliezerb, that would be great
  469. # [21:19] <@shepazu> wtf, who are these chanops? _cheney, _Rainulf?
  470. # [21:20] <@julee> shepazu: I'm doing a pivot table to sort based on topic clusters
  471. # [21:20] <@shepazu> julee, ok
  472. # [21:21] <eliezerb> This is sounding funny
  473. # [21:21] <@shepazu> julee, but I did those topic clusters labels, and I'm not too confident… they are also incomplete
  474. # [21:21] <@shepazu> eliezerb, stand by, julee is trying something else
  475. # [21:21] <eliezerb> ok :)
  476. # [21:22] <@julee> This is just to get groups or themes for the next 7 weeks, it's not to officially set the topic clusters or "see also" links or anything
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  479. # [21:26] <@ravenzz> shepazu what do you need help for?
  480. # [21:27] <@shepazu> ravenzz, well, we might like to update the links to specs for the CSS master list
  481. # [21:27] <@shepazu> and many hands make light work
  482. # [21:27] <@ravenzz> can't we run a script?
  483. # [21:28] <@shepazu> ravenzz, it's a bit complicated, but what did you have in mind
  484. # [21:28] <@shepazu> ?
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  487. # [21:31] <@ravenzz> we could grab the titles from the db, search on google and update the link field?
  488. # [21:31] <@shepazu> ravenzz, well, it's not going to be the first hit on google
  489. # [21:31] <@julee> So, here are some buckets derived from the master list:
  490. # [21:31] <@julee> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnXre3v9CjJXdGtFQnFTQnh6UEFIZXBOZ1FUdl9OTHc&usp=sharing
  491. # [21:31] <@shepazu> you might need to click around to find the newest editor's draft
  492. # [21:32] <@julee> We want to get them into groups of 25, if possible.
  493. # [21:32] <@ravenzz> shepazu can you give me a couple of examples I could try find a common pattern
  494. # [21:32] <@shepazu> ravenzz, http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/master_list
  495. # [21:33] <@shepazu> ravenzz, let me find a couple good examples
  496. # [21:34] <@shepazu> ravenzz, animation points to http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-animations/ ...
  497. # [21:34] <@shepazu> and you can find the Editor's Draft link there at the top...
  498. # [21:35] <@ravenzz> css animation inurl:csswg site:dev.w3.org
  499. # [21:35] <@ravenzz> ?
  500. # [21:36] <@shepazu> ravenzz, that might do it… but I'd also like it to point to http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-animations/#animation-shorthand-property … the specific property link
  501. # [21:36] <@shepazu> but your first pass might be good enough
  502. # [21:36] <@ravenzz> the single properties are just url fragments
  503. # [21:36] <@ravenzz> with a -property suffix
  504. # [21:36] <@shepazu> if it indeed points to the most recent editor's draft (but I'm a bit skeptical
  505. # [21:36] <@ravenzz> uh and shorthand maybe
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  507. # [21:37] <@shepazu> ravenzz, each spec will be a bit different
  508. # [21:39] <@ravenzz> uhm ok
  509. # [21:40] <@ravenzz> so should I follow the web platform wednesday master list or the one from julee?
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  511. # [21:41] <eliezerb> shepazu: back, I had some internet issues
  512. # [21:43] <@julee> ravenzz : don't follow my spreadsheet.
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  514. # [21:44] <@julee> shepazu you're asking that the master list properties point to the right specs, right?
  515. # [21:44] <@ravenzz> julee I won't <o
  516. # [21:45] <@shepazu> julee, yeah, we need to do that anyway
  517. # [21:46] <@shepazu> I think ravenzz has a good first-pass solution for automation, and we can always get the hash ids later
  518. # [21:46] <@julee> OK, so to accomplish the goal we set out to do (put the remaining WPW properties into weekly buckets), we only need the P0-P2 properties done.
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  520. # [21:49] <@shepazu> julee, is that accounted for in your pivot table?
  521. # [21:50] <@julee> y
  522. # [21:50] <@ravenzz> the hash id is always #PropertyName-property and #PropertyName-shorthand-property btw
  523. # [21:51] <@julee> shepazu: But, not a big deal. Once folks have the spec links for the P0-P2, I can do another table, and we'll come up with the weekly buckets from there.
  524. # [21:51] <@julee> I'll wait.
  525. # [21:51] <@julee> Just let me know when the P0-P2s are done.
  526. # [21:51] <@shepazu> ok, ravenzz, you think you could do that script?
  527. # [21:54] <@ravenzz> shepazu eh but what in language do you need it to be written? PHP?
  528. # [21:55] <@shepazu> ravenzz, doesn't matter, we're only interested in the output
  529. # [21:55] <@ravenzz> oh so you'd like to have a list?
  530. # [21:55] <@ravenzz> list of links
  531. # [21:55] <@shepazu> ravenzz, yes
  532. # [21:56] <@ravenzz> I need the input one, do you have it? Or should I grab it from http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/master_list ?
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  534. # [21:59] <@shepazu> ravenzz, yeah, that's the list
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  536. # [21:59] <@shepazu> ravenzz, if you can output it in the same format, that would be great
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  539. # [22:05] <@shepazu> julee, we don't need to wait for the links to select the 7 groups
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  541. # [22:06] <@ravenzz> shepazu ok I think I can do that but I should go now and get some rest... and tomorrow I'll be busy for the whole day. Do you need it now?
  542. # [22:06] <@shepazu> ravenzz, no, tomorrow is fine!
  543. # [22:06] <@shepazu> thanks
  544. # [22:10] <nicdaCosta> now do we pick the 7 groups based on those having the same spec link or would a general similarity in properties suffice? eg: animations and transitions going together?
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  546. # [22:10] <@ravenzz> uhm tomorrow I can't too :/ I have an appointment after work which will surely take me the whole evening
  547. # [22:11] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, the latter, I think
  548. # [22:11] <@shepazu> ravenzz, don't worry about it, thanks for the suggestion!
  549. # [22:11] <@ravenzz> I'll see if I can have it coded by wed
  550. # [22:12] <@shepazu> ok, thanks
  551. # [22:12] <nicdaCosta> makes sense. so if we are trying to group with 25 properties, i think grid layout and multi-column layout properties should go together. Making 25 properties
  552. # [22:12] * ericduran|away is now known as ericduran
  553. # [22:12] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, julee, I think we should categorize the ones that don't have topic clusters yet
  554. # [22:13] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, good call
  555. # [22:13] <nicdaCosta> makes sense. Busy splitting the list
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  557. # [22:14] <@shepazu> backgrounds and borders is 18… 7 more and that's a group
  558. # [22:17] <nicdaCosta> i think we should pull those 7 from the ones without clusters as if we group size, padding, overflow and transforms, it will make 19 and they are all somewhat related
  559. # [22:21] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, yeah, I was thinking size, top, bottom, left, right, and padding would be a good subset
  560. # [22:22] <nicdaCosta> then maybe we change that as missed a cluster in the list. We group size, padding and layout
  561. # [22:22] <nicdaCosta> makes 25
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  563. # [22:24] <@shepazu> cool
  564. # [22:25] <nicdaCosta> and in terms of continuity, wpw #4 was text properties, to try and keep a linking / theme, we then follow with multi-column and grid layout ( ways of arranging your text ) which is then followed by size,layout and padding?
  565. # [22:25] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, sounds good!
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  570. # [22:37] <@shepazu> julee, nicdaCosta, I've updated the topic clusters a bit
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  574. # [22:40] <@julee> shepazu & nicdaCosta : I've come up with an initial cut of the groupings on the spreadsheet:
  575. # [22:40] <@julee> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnXre3v9CjJXdGtFQnFTQnh6UEFIZXBOZ1FUdl9OTHc#gid=0
  576. # [22:40] <@julee> The weeks are A thru F, and we can decide the week order after we get the buckets.
  577. # [22:41] <@shepazu> julee, wow!
  578. # [22:43] <nicdaCosta> nice!!
  579. # [22:43] <nicdaCosta> it seems that there are a few properties missing from the master list to the spredsheet. such as svg and color properties
  580. # [22:44] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, I think julee removed p3s
  581. # [22:44] <nicdaCosta> just a thought, should we not be sticking with text properties until we have them completed seeing as it was our "last" property?
  582. # [22:44] <nicdaCosta> aaah i see
  583. # [22:45] <nicdaCosta> otherwise it looks great! i like it. We could easily link themes from one week to another
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  585. # [22:45] <nicdaCosta> try and help build momentum
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  589. # [22:58] <@julee> sorry about dropping off.
  590. # [22:58] <@shepazu> nicdaCosta, julee, I'm collecting julee's groups into lists
  591. # [22:58] <@julee> This IRC client doesn't notify you.
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  595. # [22:59] <@shepazu> julee, or have you already done that?
  596. # [22:59] <@julee> Not sure what you mean. Did you all choose the order of the weeks (A-G)?
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  599. # [23:03] <@shepazu> julee, I just mean I was going to make a list of all properties for each week, then add them to the wiki masterlist page
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  601. # [23:04] <@julee> Oh, cool. I was thinking if we knew the order of the weeks, then we could just split up the master list into 7 lists.
  602. # [23:05] <@julee> Or you could also just add a column for weeks and add the value there.
  603. # [23:05] <@shepazu> julee, that's true
  604. # [23:05] <@shepazu> julee, why don't I do that?
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  606. # [23:05] <@julee> sounds good
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  610. # [23:06] <eliezerb> bye julee, nicdaCosta and shepazu, good work to you guys
  611. # [23:07] <@shepazu> ok, be done in 15 minutes… you guys want to decide on the order, or is the A-G order okay?
  612. # [23:07] <nicdaCosta> thanks eliezerb bye have a great evening
  613. # [23:08] <nicdaCosta> should we not focus on text first, get it out of the way and then continue with that order?
  614. # [23:08] <@julee> bye, eliezerb!
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  616. # [23:08] <@julee> So, E, F, A-D ?
  617. # [23:08] <nicdaCosta> other than that, i think the ordering is great
  618. # [23:08] <@julee> Oops, and then G, of course.
  619. # [23:09] <@shepazu> what about G?
  620. # [23:09] <@shepazu> ok
  621. # [23:09] <@julee> E, F, A, B, C, D, G
  622. # [23:09] <nicdaCosta> i think G should be last as is Misc...like these are the last few bits we need to get done
  623. # [23:09] <nicdaCosta> i like that, E, F, A, B, C, D, G
  624. # [23:09] <nicdaCosta> Drive the focus on text then move to layout etc
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  626. # [23:09] <@shepazu> ok, I'll change those to match that order
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  628. # [23:15] <nicdaCosta> anyway, i had better be off for the evening. Goodbye all and thanks for all the great work. Have a great rest of your days. Chat tomorrow :)
  629. # [23:15] <@julee> bye, nicdaCosta!
  630. # [23:15] <@julee> shepazu : are we good to go? Need anything else from me?
  631. # [23:16] * @julee thinking of donuts...
  632. # [23:16] <nicdaCosta> or me?
  633. # [23:16] <@shepazu> julee, nicdaCosta, later!
  634. # [23:16] <@julee> bye, shepazu!
  635. # [23:16] <@shepazu> I'll post this to the list tonight
  636. # [23:16] <nicdaCosta> awesome. thanks again. bye:)
  637. # [23:16] <@julee> Cool.
  638. # [23:16] <@shepazu> thanks, guys!!!!!
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  644. # [23:30] <@Garbee> julee, No clients really make disconnection obvious immediately (at least ones I have seen.)
  645. # [23:30] <@Garbee> There is always a lag in between disconnection and the client checking for it.
  646. # [23:30] <@julee> interesting
  647. # [23:32] <@Garbee> Also, it depends on how you disconnect. Sometimes it is your physical connection, so you know pretty much immediately. But, if it is a peer reset or disconnect in some way from you to the server, you may not know for about 90 seconds I think.
  648. # [23:32] <@Garbee> Best thing to do is get a client like Xchat which has a lag meter, if you notice issues check that for craziness.
  649. # [23:32] <@Garbee> If it is too high, you are either on a fritzy connection or you lost it.
  650. # [23:32] <@Garbee> :/ Sorry, no other real way around it that I know of.
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