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  295. # [19:59] <renoirb> is the meeting over?
  296. # [20:01] <clayball> renoirb: I'm on the call.. I think I'm alone
  297. # [20:02] <clayball> renoirb: you may want to head over to #webplatform-site
  298. # [20:02] <@frozenice> meeting started 2 hours ago and ended 1 hour ago
  299. # [20:02] <clayball> oops
  300. # [20:03] <clayball> I had it set for 2pm... I should have read the email :)
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  319. # [20:42] <@Ryan_Lane> have you guys seen the VisualEditor launch on Wikipedia?
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  321. # [20:42] <@Ryan_Lane> It's a WYSIWYG using content editable. they finally have template and citation editing and such
  322. # [20:43] <@frozenice> is it still for registered users only?
  323. # [20:44] <@Ryan_Lane> lemme see
  324. # [20:44] <@Ryan_Lane> probably
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  326. # [20:44] <@Ryan_Lane> monday they are enabling it by default for all registered users
  327. # [20:44] <@frozenice> ah cool
  328. # [20:44] <@Ryan_Lane> yep. only for registered
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  330. # [20:45] <@frozenice> wanted to upgrade our company internal wiki at some point, too
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  332. # [20:45] <@Ryan_Lane> may want to wait till its beta at least :)
  333. # [20:45] <@Ryan_Lane> it requires an alternative parser, written in nodejs
  334. # [20:45] <@Ryan_Lane> called parsod
  335. # [20:45] <@Ryan_Lane> parsoid*
  336. # [20:45] <@frozenice> yeah parsoid saw that
  337. # [20:46] <@Ryan_Lane> and parsoid is fairly slower than the php parser, so editing really giant pages takes a while for the editor to load
  338. # [20:46] <@Ryan_Lane> for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France?veaction=edit
  339. # [20:47] <@Ryan_Lane> however, it also handles template editing now, so things like SemanticForms likely aren't necessary
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  341. # [20:55] <@shepazu> Ryan_Lane, that page was semi-protected… could I see the editor in action somewhere?
  342. # [20:55] <@Ryan_Lane> ah. let me see
  343. # [20:55] <@Ryan_Lane> it crashed my browser. gimme a sec :)
  344. # [20:55] <@Ryan_Lane> stupid slow firefox
  345. # [20:55] <@Ryan_Lane> and giant giant articles
  346. # [20:57] <@Ryan_Lane> trying to find a good complicated article that isn't semi-protected
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  348. # [20:58] <@Ryan_Lane> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lousiana?veaction=edit
  349. # [20:58] <@Ryan_Lane> maybe that one
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  351. # [20:59] <@Ryan_Lane> I think that's only protected for move
  352. # [20:59] <@shepazu> Ryan_Lane, "VisualEditor will soon be enabled for all logged-in users. "… I'm not seeing the visual editor
  353. # [20:59] <@Ryan_Lane> oh. sorry
  354. # [20:59] <@Ryan_Lane> go to your preferences
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  356. # [20:59] <@Ryan_Lane> editing tab
  357. # [20:59] <@Ryan_Lane> Enable VisualEditor
  358. # [20:59] <@Ryan_Lane> it's not enabled for everyone by default until monday
  359. # [21:01] <@Ryan_Lane> clicking on templates and images and such produces a button that can be clicked to edit it
  360. # [21:01] <@Ryan_Lane> clicking images lets you resize or edit
  361. # [21:02] <@Ryan_Lane> same with links and such
  362. # [21:02] <@Ryan_Lane> looks like gallery tags still can't be edited
  363. # [21:03] <@shepazu> Ryan_Lane, looks good… how does the templating work?
  364. # [21:04] <@Ryan_Lane> it looks like all of these templates haven't been modified yet
  365. # [21:04] <@Ryan_Lane> so, this just sees the template parameters and lists them as fields
  366. # [21:04] <@Ryan_Lane> you can modify the templates to say "this field is a string, with these allowed values" and such
  367. # [21:04] <@Ryan_Lane> and VE will show a custom field for that
  368. # [21:04] <@shepazu> Ryan_Lane, yeah, that's what we need
  369. # [21:05] <@Ryan_Lane> it's simpler than SF, since you don't need to define a template and a form
  370. # [21:05] <@Ryan_Lane> and everything is inline
  371. # [21:05] <@shepazu> Ryan_Lane, how much work would it be for us to convert from SMW/SF to this?
  372. # [21:06] <@Ryan_Lane> well, this would be down the road
  373. # [21:06] <@Ryan_Lane> I wouldn't recommend switching to this now
  374. # [21:06] <@shepazu> Ryan_Lane, why's that?
  375. # [21:06] <@Ryan_Lane> VE is still alpha
  376. # [21:06] <@Ryan_Lane> and under heavy development
  377. # [21:06] <@shepazu> aren't you rolling it out for all editors?
  378. # [21:06] <@Ryan_Lane> yep, with the assumption that power editors will switch back to the old editor
  379. # [21:07] <@Ryan_Lane> I say in 6 months or so it may be a viable option
  380. # [21:07] <@shepazu> hm
  381. # [21:07] <@shepazu> what is unstable about it?
  382. # [21:08] <@Ryan_Lane> browser incompatibilities (requires IE 9+ and newer versions of firefox, chrome, etc), changes in the interface, missing features
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  384. # [21:09] <@Ryan_Lane> changes in parsoid
  385. # [21:09] <@Ryan_Lane> maybe it would be worth prototyping on test
  386. # [21:09] <@shepazu> Ryan_Lane, yeah, I think that would be a good idea
  387. # [21:10] <@Ryan_Lane> maybe it's perfectly usable in its current state for what's needed
  388. # [21:10] <@Ryan_Lane> won't know until we test, right? :)
  389. # [21:11] <@Ryan_Lane> our forms are pretty complex. prototyping should be fun :D
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