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  182. # [17:05] <@Garbee> chrismills, How is the beginner's guide going?
  183. # [17:07] <@chrismills> Hi Garbee -
  184. # [17:08] <@chrismills> I have had not time at all to work on CSS properties of late, let alone the beginner's guide
  185. # [17:08] <@chrismills> s/not/no
  186. # [17:08] <@chrismills> I recently started a new job at Mozilla, so I've had to focus my efforts on that for the time being
  187. # [17:09] <@chrismills> but I will come back to the fold at some point - Moz are supportive of my webplatform activities
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  191. # [17:12] <@Garbee> Really? Mozilla?
  192. # [17:12] <@Garbee> Nice.
  193. # [17:13] <@Garbee> Well, I'm looking back towards WPD now that a surprise project is about to wind out.
  194. # [17:13] <@Garbee> Looks like that guide is what I'll pick up on.
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  256. # [19:36] <cballenar> whatup :)
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  270. # [20:36] <@julee> Problems posting to blog.webplatform.org today…
  271. # [20:36] <@julee> …so we especially need your help this week
  272. # [20:36] <@julee> …please sign up to contribute to border background & transform CSS properties
  273. # [20:36] <@julee> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday
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  281. # [21:02] <@Ryan_Lane> julee: problems in what way? 503s?
  282. # [21:02] <@Ryan_Lane> I know why
  283. # [21:02] <@Ryan_Lane> I'm working on it
  284. # [21:03] <@julee> Thanks, Ryan_Lane!
  285. # [21:03] <@Ryan_Lane> julee: should be working now
  286. # [21:03] <@Ryan_Lane> well
  287. # [21:03] <@Ryan_Lane> one sec
  288. # [21:03] <@Ryan_Lane> nopw
  289. # [21:03] <@Ryan_Lane> *now
  290. # [21:03] <@julee> LOL
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  293. # [21:04] * @julee is waiting patiently...
  294. # [21:05] <@julee> As Margie Thatcher used to say "I'm extraordinarily patient provided I get my own way in the end."
  295. # [21:05] * @Garbee chuckles.
  296. # [21:05] <@Garbee> ;)
  297. # [21:06] <@julee> But I didn't see that Ryan had left...
  298. # [21:07] <@Garbee> I think he got it working for now at least.
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  300. # [21:07] <@Garbee> Checking around now.
  301. # [21:08] <@Garbee> ugh, not exactly.
  302. # [21:08] <@Garbee> A style file in the blog domain isn't loading.
  303. # [21:08] <@julee> eliezerb : ut?
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  305. # [21:09] <eliezerb> hie julee
  306. # [21:09] <@Garbee> ok, doing some more clicking around things seem fine now.
  307. # [21:10] <@Garbee> No more 503s on any more resources for me.
  308. # [21:10] <eliezerb> let me see
  309. # [21:10] <@julee> Hi, eliezerb : saw that you were playing around with data types vs. units. We need to make sure we're clear on those. Want to help get them organized?
  310. # [21:11] <@julee> Should color be a data type, a unit, both? That sort of thing
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  313. # [21:12] <eliezerb> julee, Me and shepazu were working on that, I probably will need an extra help
  314. # [21:12] <eliezerb> Garbee, Blog looks ok :)
  315. # [21:13] <eliezerb> julee, since I'm not English native, but I would be really glad in help
  316. # [21:14] <@Garbee> julee, In what capacity are you referencing color?
  317. # [21:15] <eliezerb> julee, Data type is kind of pixels, inches, that sort of things
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  319. # [21:15] <eliezerb> ops
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  321. # [21:15] <eliezerb> julee, That's are units
  322. # [21:15] <@julee> eliezerb: English doesn't matter. It's more about where these values should live. People have doc'd them all over the place.
  323. # [21:16] <eliezerb> julee, got it
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  325. # [21:16] <@Garbee> Color = Data Type. Not Unit.
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  327. # [21:16] <@julee> Main thing: do a list of values and say if they should live under data_types, units, or somewhere else. Pass it by the public list. Then we can move and merge everything.
  328. # [21:17] <@julee> ^ ^ eliezerb
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  330. # [21:17] <eliezerb> julee, I have to do this until?
  331. # [21:18] <@Garbee> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/syndata.html#values
  332. # [21:18] <@julee> Garbee, yes, thanks. And now go search for it on wpd, and your eyes'll spin! ;-)
  333. # [21:18] <@Garbee> julee, I will search once I am back home an off Verizon's slow network.
  334. # [21:18] <@julee> eliezerb: 1 week? 2? What do you think?
  335. # [21:19] <@Garbee> julee, Along with this we also should do a page explaining why things are documented in a certain way and how to tell the difference between units, data types, and anything else apart.
  336. # [21:19] <@Garbee> ^^More of a note-to-self for later.
  337. # [21:20] <@julee> Garbee: Great idea. I'll add it to the task.
  338. # [21:20] <eliezerb> julee, Give me 1 week at first, I will jump ont that :) If something take more time to happen I ping you here
  339. # [21:20] <@julee> Thanks much, eliezerb!
  340. # [21:20] <@Garbee> Any time we have trouble deciding how things are organized, we should document why and how as well for future reference and to help others out doing it in the future.
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  342. # [21:21] <@julee> Garbee : good point
  343. # [21:22] <@Garbee> I'm so glad I can finally chat again. It has been too long.
  344. # [21:24] <@julee> Garbee : Yes!
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  347. # [21:29] <eliezerb> julee, do you remember that shepazu also created these pages: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/units http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/data_types
  348. # [21:32] <@julee> eliezerb : still having a hard time getting to the pages… 503s...
  349. # [21:34] <@julee> eliezerb : I have to run out for about an hour… Will check into it more when I get back. But we should check in with shepazu to figure out the next steps. Add more? Update pages?
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  396. # [23:13] <eliezerb> Hey julee, I'm back
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  400. # [23:20] <@julee> eliezerb: mee too
  401. # [23:21] <eliezerb> julee, I took a first look in what we already have under data_types
  402. # [23:22] <eliezerb> julee, Also made some notes about some little details in that pages
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  407. # [23:28] <@julee> eliezerb : one thing we might want to do is list the specs where the data_types are defined.
  408. # [23:28] <@julee> for instance http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/syndata.html that Garbee mentioned
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  410. # [23:29] <eliezerb> julee, I will look for those tomorrow, to read and compare with the ones that we already have
  411. # [23:29] <@julee> Sounds good.
  412. # [23:30] <eliezerb> julee, My notes i. e. #1 - All the page titles are like "angle units", "numeric units" except "Text values"
  413. # [23:30] <@julee> Then, the next thing is to make sure the pages that describe color are in the right place. So, search for color on webplatform.org, and you'll see where all the pages that refer to color are located. Is the current location for each good? Or should we move it? Or merge any of the pages. Like that.
  414. # [23:31] <@julee> good. yes.
  415. # [23:31] <eliezerb> julee, I already update the links, before we move them to the new location
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  417. # [23:32] <@julee> I think that's fine. Make sure to get someone like shepazu or someone here or on the public list to second your opinion before moving.
  418. # [23:34] <@julee> Basically, the end result is that when a visitor comes to some page and sees the word "color" or whatever, it'll be linked to the root page "color" and where that page lives makes sense and is parallel to other words of that kind.
  419. # [23:34] <leaverou> so now the only -ms- prefixed properties here http://docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=500&q=%5B%5BCategory%3ACSS+Properties%5D%5D&p=format%3Dtemplate%2Flink%3Dnone%2Fsearchlabel%3DSee-20more-20pages...%2Ftemplate%3DSummary_Table_Body%2Fintrotemplate%3DSummary_Table_Header%2Foutrotemplate%3DSummary_Table_Footer&po=%3FPage+Title%0A%3FSummary%0A
  420. # [23:34] <leaverou> are the ones for content-zooming
  421. # [23:34] <leaverou> julee do I have your permission to delete them?
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  423. # [23:36] <@Garbee> leaverou, Looks good to delete to me.
  424. # [23:36] <@julee> leaverou : only the -ms-content-* properties, right?
  425. # [23:36] <leaverou> yes, the -ms-content-zooming properties
  426. # [23:37] <@julee> yes, pleeeeze. thank you!
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  432. # [23:58] <leaverou> thanks julee
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