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  2. # Session Ident: #webplatform
  3. # [00:00] <renoirb> I got to go
  4. # [00:00] <eliezerb> Thanks renoirb!
  5. # [00:00] <renoirb> so you are one of the Portugese translator eliezerb
  6. # [00:00] <renoirb> ?
  7. # [00:00] <eliezerb> Yep! I was...
  8. # [00:01] <eliezerb> renoirb, But doug told me that we first should write some content, to have something to translate
  9. # [00:01] <eliezerb> Then I started to help in other kind of tasks
  10. # [00:02] <renoirb> Sure, we must have content in at least one language
  11. # [00:02] <eliezerb> LOL
  12. # [00:02] <renoirb> prior to translate. and not to forget we want it validated too
  13. # [00:03] <eliezerb> Yeah, translate the content before the main on be ready, will made necessary a second review in translation
  14. # [00:03] <eliezerb> One more thing renoirb
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  16. # [00:05] <renoirb> still here :)
  17. # [00:06] <renoirb> what is that?
  18. # [00:07] <eliezerb> A bug filled in the project.webplatform.org
  19. # [00:07] <renoirb> can you send a link?
  20. # [00:07] <renoirb> I do not get the file it seems
  21. # [00:07] <eliezerb> I'm looking for it
  22. # [00:10] <eliezerb> Uploaded the image
  23. # [00:11] <eliezerb> I'll sent in private
  24. # [00:11] <renoirb> ok
  25. # [00:12] <renoirb> Bye all.
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  272. # [21:11] <Francisc> Hey guys. Quick question: Would you say the FileReader API is part of the DOM spec?
  273. # [21:14] <apexskier> Francisc: I'd say it's more appropriate for the apis section than DOM.
  274. # [21:14] <apexskier> It's not really specific to markup docs.
  275. # [21:16] <Francisc> Yeah I know and it makes perfect sense. But, for example, localStorage which I also don't agree is part of the DOM, is said to be: "The term DOM is used to refer to the API set made available to scripts in Web applications, and does not necessarily imply the existence of an actual Document object or of any other Node objects as defined in the DOM Core specifications. [DOMCORE]"
  276. # [21:16] <Francisc> http://www.w3.org/TR/webstorage/
  277. # [21:18] <apexskier> Good point.
  278. # [21:19] <apexskier> I think that for webplatform, considering its target audience, it would still be more appropriate in the API's section
  279. # [21:20] <apexskier> SVG even could be considered part of the DOM
  280. # [21:20] <Francisc> I totally agree.
  281. # [21:20] <apexskier> "The DOM provides a logically structured representation of a document, and a set of Objects and Methods for manipulating that structure."
  282. # [21:20] <apexskier> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom
  283. # [21:21] <@shepazu> I'm not sure I agree… SVG is as separate from the DOM as HTML is
  284. # [21:22] <apexskier> shepazu: That's true when looking at it from a technical perspective, as in the w3 spec.
  285. # [21:22] <Francisc> "DOM Storage guide" is the title, for the localStorage API on MDN. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/API/DOM/Storage
  286. # [21:22] <Francisc> It's also tagged "DOM".
  287. # [21:23] <@shepazu> well, the DOM doesn't say anything about the behavior of particular elements, it just describes the tree and the methods on that tree
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  290. # [21:24] <Francisc> With which localStorage has nothing to do with.
  291. # [21:24] <Francisc> I can understand events being in the DOM as they are dispatched on the document object which is part of the DOM, but just that.
  292. # [21:24] <apexskier> I'd say the DOM specifies the structure, and API's specify the abstractions and reasons for methods that meddle with the DOM.
  293. # [21:25] <apexskier> So localstorage and filereader should be in the API's section.
  294. # [21:25] <apexskier> It's pretty subjective.
  295. # [21:26] <Francisc> getElementById should be in DOM, localStorage should not be in DOM, maybe BOM, but that's not standardized.
  296. # [21:27] <Francisc> Anyway, thank you.
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  312. # [21:58] <@shepazu> Francisc, I think localStorage is in DOM because it's a DOM API
  313. # [22:11] <apexskier> ping Guest80792
  314. # [22:11] <apexskier> ping foxk5
  315. # [22:11] <apexskier> I need permissions on /tmp like matt for resnet stuff.
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  325. # [22:14] <apexskier> sorry, wrong chan
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  327. # [22:18] <Francisc> Hm, but it's not a method on the document object and it's got nothing to do with the Document Object Model.
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  344. # [22:28] <@Garbee> shepazu, The spec states that it doesn't imply the existence of an actual document object. So wouldn't that mean it isn't a part of the DOM? http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-webstorage-20091222/#terminology
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  346. # [22:28] <@Garbee> Or am I looking at this from the wrong direction?
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