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  146. # [11:27] <Tasmaniac> How does one engage in chat - I've looked at help but there's no help on actually using this thing.
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  148. # [11:31] <@Garbee> Tasmaniac, It is done.
  149. # [11:31] <@Garbee> Once you see the room, you're connected and going.
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  152. # [11:38] <Tasmaniac> I came across this from Mozilla - web learning process and was hoping to find a place to chat about web development as a learner.
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  155. # [11:39] <@Garbee> Yup, here is pretty slow but you can. #web is another room with more activity on doing web development.
  156. # [11:40] <@Garbee> Then #css is good for getting information directly on css.
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  158. # [11:40] <Tasmaniac> I was assuming that as I'm in Australia, the time difference may be a problem.
  159. # [11:40] <@Garbee> meh.
  160. # [11:41] <@Garbee> These kinds of rooms timezone differences aren't a major thing.
  161. # [11:41] <Tasmaniac> What tools does one use to code html, css and js ???
  162. # [11:41] <@Garbee> Someone somewhere tends to have an eye on things at some point most of the time.
  163. # [11:41] <@Garbee> http://brackets.io/
  164. # [11:41] <@Garbee> That is my recommended tool for beginners.
  165. # [11:42] <Tasmaniac> many thanks - I'll check it out.
  166. # [11:42] <@Garbee> You can also use more general purpose editors like Sublime Text. http://sublimetext.com (costs $70 for a license iirc.)
  167. # [11:43] <@Garbee> Then, you could also just use the chrome dev tools. ;) But, I don't know of any good articles for beginners to start using that as an editor effectively.
  168. # [11:43] <Tasmaniac> With the excercises I've been doing thru the mozilla lessons, I've just used notepad.
  169. # [11:43] <@Garbee> ew. ;)
  170. # [11:43] <@Garbee> No syntax highlighting, instant kill.
  171. # [11:43] <@Garbee> Plus iirc it has issues with how it saves UTF-8 files (which is how you should be encoding your files.)
  172. # [11:44] <Tasmaniac> Yes - that's apparent and I haven't been able to figure how to code using chrome - but I have turned on the tools and can see stuff.
  173. # [11:45] <@Garbee> Yea, actually doing your development work in there is a pretty advanced thing right now. Certain parts are still under the experiments flag.
  174. # [11:45] <@Garbee> But, if you are doing straight front-end development, then those tools will eventually be their own full IDE of sorts. Pretty nifty what is going on there.
  175. # [11:46] <Tasmaniac> Thanks again - I'll try your earlier suggestion for starters - I've done a fair bit of programming (incl using 4GL's) but no experience with web stuff.
  176. # [11:47] <@Garbee> Also, break down frameworks if you can.
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  178. # [11:47] <Tasmaniac> What do you mean ??
  179. # [11:47] <@Garbee> Like go to bootstrap or foundations docs, and inspect their stuff and see how it is constructed.
  180. # [11:47] <@Garbee> That is a neat way to learn things.
  181. # [11:47] <@Garbee> http://twbs.github.io/bootstrap/
  182. # [11:47] <Tasmaniac> Sounds good - thanks.
  183. # [11:48] <@Garbee> Don't go using this in a project without knowing what it is doing though.
  184. # [11:48] <Tasmaniac> Thanks again.
  185. # [11:48] <@Garbee> You're welcome.
  186. # [11:49] <@Garbee> Thanks for dropping in.
  187. # [11:49] <Tasmaniac> I'll check out for now.
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  189. # [11:50] <Tasmaniac> I see people dropping in but no chats - do I assume they do direct chats with someone ??
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  191. # [11:58] <@Garbee> They could.
  192. # [11:58] <@Garbee> Who knows.
  193. # [11:58] <@Garbee> People come and go from IRC all the time.
  194. # [11:58] <@Garbee> Or they could be in other rooms doing things.
  195. # [11:58] <@Garbee> I'm in about 10-12 rooms myself normally. Don't chat but in 3 or so most days.
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  197. # [12:02] <Tasmaniac> Garb - I downloaded brackets but it's an msi file - not an exe ???
  198. # [12:03] <@Garbee> Yea, it will install just the same.
  199. # [12:04] <@Garbee> exe and msi are just two different ways of packaging an executable installer. Each with their own advantages and dis-advantages.
  200. # [12:04] <@Garbee> ^^ two ways for windows.
  201. # [12:05] <Tasmaniac> Yep - it's installing - thanks
  202. # [12:08] <Tasmaniac> Thanks Garbee - I'll play with brackets thr rest of the night.
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  211. # [12:52] <@ravenzz> Tasmaniac if you have a question feel free to ask, someone will reply eventually
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  213. # [12:56] <Tasmaniac> I get it - thanks ravenzz
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  242. # [15:49] <@ravenzz> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom/FormData
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