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- # Session Start: Sat Jan 25 00:00:01 2014
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- # [00:31] <@Garbee> I'm so confused by the "open source domain" email. Isn't that our domain with a few capitals? (That make no difference anyways)
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- # [01:54] <@renoirb> Hi Garbee. I'm confused too about that email
- # [01:55] <@renoirb> But the domain name has been bought in 1998
- # [01:55] <@renoirb> webplatform.com that is ^
- # [01:55] <@Garbee> Oh. .com and we are on .org
- # [01:55] <@Garbee> Duh
- # [01:56] <@Garbee> Facepalm
- # [01:58] <@renoirb> Here are their terms http://www.opendomain.org/terms/
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- # [01:58] <@Garbee> This seems sketchy.
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- # [02:00] <@Garbee> Yes. We should just politely decline this.
- # [02:00] <@Garbee> No benefit at all.
- # [02:01] <@Garbee> We shouldn't have two domains pointing to the same stuff. That creates duplicate content issues.
- # [02:01] <@Garbee> And using this adds restrictions to what we can do.
- # [02:02] <@Garbee> I.e. we'd technically need to no follow all links. Even ones in blog posts where we want them to carry seo juice.
- # [02:03] <@Garbee> Overall, just a bad idea getting involved in it IMO.
- # [02:08] <@renoirb> indeed. Anyway, we are webplatform.org... an organization. Not a COMmerce
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- # [19:29] <@Garbee> Does anyone around know if a paste operation should set off the keypress event? http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-type-keypress
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- # [19:29] <@Garbee> It seems like in Firefox it does work, but in Chrome on my machine it does not.
- # [19:31] <@Garbee> but, the keyup event *is* triggering on a paste command.
- # [19:31] * @Garbee sighs.
- # [19:31] <@Garbee> http://jsfiddle.net/JnsH4/1/ ---Concept code if anyone is interested.
- # [19:37] <eliezerb> Garbee, What you need to test?
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- # [19:39] <@Garbee> Can you paste something into the name field and without pressing any other keys will it show below the form? If so, what OS and browser are you running?
- # [19:39] <@Garbee> I'm trying to figure out how the keypress event should be implemented.
- # [19:39] <@Garbee> However, reading over the spec just now, it looks as if it is recommended to not use keypress at all.
- # [19:40] <@Garbee> (I'm debugging my shared web hosts DNS manager and why it is so broken in Chrome on Linux for me. Looks like this event type is the cause.)
- # [19:41] <@Garbee> keyup works fine though with paste for me, which is what the email input is testing.
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- # [19:44] <@Garbee> I guess the what I really should be testing is, should functions like cut, copy, and paste set off keypress events? Looking at the spec it should.
- # [19:45] <@Garbee> Hmm, let me rewrite the fiddle a bit to be a more accurate test.
- # [19:47] <eliezerb> Firefox 29, Win7, the email field is "working better" when I paste a value
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- # [19:59] <@ravenzz> Garbee definitely listen for the keyup event
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- # [20:02] <@Garbee> ravenzz: Yea, here is a full test of the 3 events: http://jsfiddle.net/JnsH4/2/
- # [20:02] <@Garbee> keypress is the only one that doesn't trigger on a paste event on my system.
- # [20:02] <@Garbee> eliezerb: Awesome, thanks for being the Windows tester. :P
- # [20:03] <eliezerb> Garbee, Welcome!
- # [20:03] <@Garbee> I'm going to send this fiddle link to the host and recommend they change their event listener to keyup since that isn't deprecated and seems to be caught in all browsers I have tested so far.
- # [20:04] <@Garbee> eliezerb: You mind testing that last fiddle real fast? Just paste something into each input and see if keypress shows a key number please.
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- # [20:04] <@Garbee> I find it so odd that FF sets off keypress with a paste, but Chrome does not.
- # [20:04] <eliezerb> Garbee, let me see
- # [20:05] <@frozenice> keypress sucks! :) keydown/keyup 4tw
- # [20:05] * @Garbee doesn't have a Windows box at the ready. Still setting up a new machine.
- # [20:05] <@Garbee> frozenice: Yea, figuring that out.
- # [20:05] <@frozenice> you can get a 30 minutes / month free account @ saucelabs, if you want to test some system/browser combo
- # [20:05] <@Garbee> I complained to my host about their DNS manager. They came back with "please test in another browser. Works for us." so, I'm just debugging the entire stack.
- # [20:06] <@Garbee> frozenice: Aw, nice!
- # [20:06] <@Garbee> Never heard of this company before.
- # [20:06] <@frozenice> best cloud-browser provider I have found, price-wise
- # [20:07] <@frozenice> with $12 you get unlimited manual minutes :)
- # [20:07] <@frozenice> they also support automation via webdriver
- # [20:08] <@Garbee> Cool.
- # [20:08] <@frozenice> yup
- # [20:08] <@frozenice> plus they record your session, so you can rewatch it
- # [20:08] <@Garbee> With it being just me working on stuff and only really working on my dads site right now due to my dogs being too big of a distraction all day I don't have a big need to pay for automated testing.
- # [20:09] <@frozenice> yeah, the 30 minutes / month thing is pretty neat, though
- # [20:11] <@Garbee> lolz
- # [20:11] <@Garbee> Just signed up.
- # [20:11] <@Garbee> Can't get in.
- # [20:11] <@Garbee> I got the welcome email, but not the email verification email.
- # [20:11] <@Garbee> So it seems to be kicking me out as soon as I log in.
- # [20:11] <@Garbee> :(
- # [20:12] <@frozenice> weird. did you check the remember me checkbox? I might have been kicked out some times, too, until I checked that
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- # [20:15] <@Garbee> Just tried that (didn't see it before.) Still kicks me out.
- # [20:15] <@frozenice> :(
- # [20:16] <@Garbee> I'm just going to remote up to one of the store computers that runs Windows and test it there real fast. As long as I can say for sure that the events are working fine in Linux and Windows the same then I'm good with bringing the event change up with them.
- # [20:16] <@Garbee> I don't want to ask them to change it just for them to say it doesn't work for them afterward.
- # [20:16] <@Garbee> :/
- # [20:16] <@frozenice> hehe
- # [20:16] <@Garbee> I hate shared hosts.
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- # [20:35] <@Garbee> frozenice: Wow. FF in Windows was telling me I pressed F7 when I pasted. :/
- # [20:35] <@frozenice> :D
- # [20:35] <@Garbee> But, that was the only browser that triggered keypress on a paste.
- # [20:35] <@frozenice> I think quirksmode has a nice readup on those events
- # [20:36] <@Garbee> So, I just contact Omnis again and explained the situation. Hopefully they fix it so I can leave them more easily.
- # [20:36] <@frozenice> http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/events/keys.html
- # [20:37] <@Garbee> Nice.
- # [20:37] <@Garbee> The only thing I see missing though is command like cut, copy, and paste.
- # [20:37] <@Garbee> :/
- # [20:37] <@Garbee> Which is exactly what I'm testing against.
- # [20:37] <@Garbee> I see arrow keys and things like that being tested here, but not commands.
- # [20:37] <@Garbee> As far as I'm concerned though, they can update their code to use a non-deprecated event listener.
- # [20:37] <@frozenice> yeah, haven't looked at it in a while :)
- # [20:38] <@Garbee> ;)
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