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  171. # [13:36] <@Garbee> Should we *really* keep IE 4.x remarks? http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom/KeyboardEvent/keypress
  172. # [13:36] <@Garbee> I think stuff for IE 5 and older is irrelevant in the docs. Who still codes to that for anything?
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  178. # [13:56] <@frozenice> no one!
  179. # [13:59] <@Garbee> Yea. With removing that I'll also remove the MSDN link. Since that is the last of their content on the page.
  180. # [13:59] <@Garbee> Although, I'm confused by the event handler section. :/
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  196. # [14:34] <@Garbee> What is the thing called in MediaWiki where you can give it a URL and it will show you all the pages with links to that URL in the wiki?
  197. # [14:35] <@Garbee> renoirb: Any way that we can change the name of a dabblet we make?
  198. # [14:36] <@Garbee> Right now I don't see the option. But I'd like to name them to make finding them easier (and for the titles to look right.)
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  201. # [14:51] <@Garbee> frozenice: Any idea on how I can edit an overview table? I don't see it in the form. ( ex. http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom/KeyboardEvent/keypress )
  202. # [14:53] <@frozenice> that one is generated automatically
  203. # [14:53] <@Garbee> How do I edit the data then? Because the generated data is incorrect.
  204. # [14:54] <@frozenice> hm, there should have been checkboxes for Synchronous, Bubbles etc.
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  207. # [14:54] <@Garbee> Yea, that is what I was thinking.
  208. # [14:54] <@Garbee> Looks like according to the spec, every value is wrong except target, which is just missing one other possible target. http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-type-keypress
  209. # [14:55] <@frozenice> I guess the Event form isn't finished
  210. # [14:56] * @Garbee sighs.
  211. # [14:56] <@Garbee> I don't get the semantic templates at all, so I can't help finish it.
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  213. # [15:05] <eliezerb> Hey Garbee
  214. # [15:05] <@Garbee> 'ello
  215. # [15:05] <@Garbee> gonva
  216. # [15:05] <eliezerb> Do you want to change Dabblet's name?
  217. # [15:06] <@Garbee> not Dabblet, but a gist it creates.
  218. # [15:06] <eliezerb> Ohh
  219. # [15:06] <eliezerb> The first line of comment is the title
  220. # [15:06] <@Garbee> i.e. https://gist.github.com/WebPlatformDocs/8631904 from untitled to "keypress event demonstration"
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  222. # [15:07] <eliezerb> Garbee, Just add on your CSS
  223. # [15:07] <eliezerb> * Cool title
  224. # [15:07] <eliezerb> */
  225. # [15:07] <eliezerb> oops
  226. # [15:07] <@Garbee> ah, CSS.
  227. # [15:07] <eliezerb> -> /* Cool title */
  228. # [15:08] <@Garbee> sweet.
  229. # [15:08] <@Garbee> That is so non-intuitive. :P
  230. # [15:08] <eliezerb> haha
  231. # [15:08] <@Garbee> Updated now, thanks a lot!
  232. # [15:08] <@frozenice> eliezerb saves the day yet again!
  233. # [15:08] <eliezerb> Do you need something about the MediaWiki Templates?
  234. # [15:08] <eliezerb> hahaha
  235. # [15:09] <@Garbee> Just the DOM Events template to get finished. :x
  236. # [15:09] <eliezerb> frozenice, hey! Far from that
  237. # [15:09] <eliezerb> What's the page?
  238. # [15:09] <@Garbee> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom/KeyboardEvent/keypress
  239. # [15:09] <@Garbee> For instance, the overview table information isn't editable.
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  241. # [15:09] <@Garbee> Which on this page, it all needs fixing.
  242. # [15:10] <@Garbee> I also need to move this to dom/events/keypress ...
  243. # [15:10] <eliezerb> Right now our efforts are on JS templates...
  244. # [15:11] <@Garbee> Lucky me. I get into DOM stuff while attention is elsewhere.
  245. # [15:11] <@Garbee> Oh well, I'll make the sections manually as-needed and make notes on what needs updating for later.
  246. # [15:11] <eliezerb> Let me see this table
  247. # [15:11] <eliezerb> Give me a moment
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  249. # [15:11] <@Garbee> I'm using keypress as a template for going and updating keyup and keydown events.
  250. # [15:12] <@Garbee> Then I guess I'll look into other input events since they seem to have gotten my attention last week. :P
  251. # [15:13] <eliezerb> If you need, I can build a Template to this section
  252. # [15:13] <@Garbee> meh, don't worry about it right now.
  253. # [15:13] <@Garbee> I need to talk some stuff over with the ML.
  254. # [15:13] <@Garbee> I have some cool ideas for things to be added.
  255. # [15:14] <@Garbee> I want to get some pages filled out as a mockup that people can follow. I'd rather not waste your time with doing something now for it to be redone later.
  256. # [15:14] <@Garbee> I'll just overlook those tables for now and focus on the other content. Maybe make a note in the content areas that those tables are currently incorrect.
  257. # [15:15] <eliezerb> Looks like that the template is ready
  258. # [15:15] <@Garbee> Will it be affected if I move the page? Because I am about to do that.
  259. # [15:16] <eliezerb> Nope
  260. # [15:16] <eliezerb> Garbee, the changes will be applied in the form
  261. # [15:16] <eliezerb> This will allow you to edit this data right on the "Edit" button
  262. # [15:16] <eliezerb> No need to "Edit Source"
  263. # [15:16] <@Garbee> ah, Special:WhatLinksHere is the page I was looking for earlier.
  264. # [15:17] <@frozenice> which is also available via the tools button
  265. # [15:17] <@Garbee> eliezerb: Alright, if you can switch it over real fast. Let's see if it breaks. :P
  266. # [15:17] <eliezerb> My sunday will be boring, maybe this could bring me some fun
  267. # [15:17] <@Garbee> I don't edit source. I've screwed too many things up doing that.
  268. # [15:17] <eliezerb> :P
  269. # [15:17] <eliezerb> Just finished the lunch
  270. # [15:18] <@Garbee> I was helping someone at the doc sprint, and ended up doubling like half the template by accident.
  271. # [15:18] <@Garbee> :/
  272. # [15:18] <eliezerb> I'll see this right now
  273. # [15:18] <eliezerb> haha
  274. # [15:18] <@Garbee> Mac key bindings confused me.
  275. # [15:18] <@Garbee> I thought I cut when I didn't.
  276. # [15:18] <@Garbee> Then, I went to copy, not thinking, and that worked. Forgot I didn't remove, so just blindly pasted and edited.
  277. # [15:19] <@Garbee> awesome, nothing links to the keypress page so I'm free to move it once the template is updated.
  278. # [15:24] <eliezerb> Garbee, These DOM templates really need some love
  279. # [15:24] <@Garbee> I sat through Scott's template talk... Was *so* lost looking over the code.
  280. # [15:25] <eliezerb> Garbee, Can you answer some questions to me?
  281. # [15:25] <eliezerb> About the Overview table?
  282. # [15:25] <@frozenice> that reminds me, I should update the Template Corps page
  283. # [15:25] <@Garbee> Sure what about it?
  284. # [15:26] <eliezerb> I need to define which kind of Input will be used for the Template's parameter
  285. # [15:26] <eliezerb> You know best the data
  286. # [15:26] <eliezerb> So..
  287. # [15:26] <@frozenice> I'd say: checkbox, checkbox, text, checkbox, text
  288. # [15:26] <eliezerb> Synchronous -> Which are the options to fill this field?
  289. # [15:27] <@Garbee> Like, synchronous would be a boolean (checkbox)?
  290. # [15:27] <eliezerb> Yeah!
  291. # [15:27] <@frozenice> eliezerb: what's your username on the main wiki?
  292. # [15:27] <eliezerb> Eliezerb
  293. # [15:27] <@Garbee> Sync, = checkbox. bubbles = checkbox, target = text, cancel = checkbox.
  294. # [15:27] <@Garbee> default action... Let me check the spec real quick on something.
  295. # [15:27] <eliezerb> Ok!
  296. # [15:27] <eliezerb> I guess that I made the worst question to do about this
  297. # [15:27] <@Garbee> yea, make default action a textarea.
  298. # [15:28] <@Garbee> That could get bigger than just a quick input.
  299. # [15:28] <eliezerb> Default Action -> Multiple lines text area?
  300. # [15:28] <@Garbee> Wait, with a normal text field we can still link correct?
  301. # [15:29] <@Garbee> If we can link, then just text it.
  302. # [15:29] <eliezerb> What do you mean?
  303. # [15:29] <eliezerb> Link to other pages?
  304. # [15:29] <@Garbee> Yea, internally.
  305. # [15:29] <eliezerb> Yes
  306. # [15:29] <@Garbee> For example the default action here: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-type-keypress
  307. # [15:29] <eliezerb> Like you were doing
  308. # [15:29] <@Garbee> They link off to other things of interest.
  309. # [15:30] <@Garbee> I'd like to replicate that.
  310. # [15:30] <eliezerb> Using MediaWiki Syntax
  311. # [15:30] <eliezerb> iirc [link]
  312. # [15:30] <@Garbee> yah, perfect. So text field it vs textarea.
  313. # [15:30] <eliezerb> Something like that
  314. # [15:30] <@Garbee> yea [link name of anchor]
  315. # [15:30] <eliezerb> Text Field -> One line
  316. # [15:30] <@Garbee> yup, that one.
  317. # [15:30] <@frozenice> eliezerb: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Community/Task_Force/Template_Corps :)
  318. # [15:30] <eliezerb> Text Area -> 5 lines or more
  319. # [15:30] <@Garbee> The default action shouldn't get too big.
  320. # [15:31] <eliezerb> Ok
  321. # [15:31] <eliezerb> The size is easy to adjust
  322. # [15:31] <@Garbee> I just wasn't sure if internal links worked with a regular text field or ot.
  323. # [15:31] <eliezerb> The Template just transpose the text field content as normal wikimedia text
  324. # [15:31] <eliezerb> frozenice, Oh, thanks :$
  325. # [15:32] <@Garbee> Wow, WPD even looks good on my monitor I have at a 90 degree rotation.
  326. # [15:33] <eliezerb> Garbee, Take a look on this link http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:Event
  327. # [15:34] <eliezerb> This is the template to the table
  328. # [15:35] <@Garbee> Looks good.
  329. # [15:36] <eliezerb> It's not finished, some fields are not being used
  330. # [15:36] <eliezerb> Like Interface
  331. # [15:36] <@Garbee> I wonder what event_applies_to is for...
  332. # [15:36] <eliezerb> So will not add it on the form
  333. # [15:36] <eliezerb> It's for Sematic
  334. # [15:37] <eliezerb> Semantic*
  335. # [15:37] <@Garbee> Interface will be added to keypress for instance once I move it.
  336. # [15:37] <@Garbee> keypress's interface will be keyboard
  337. # [15:37] <@Garbee> Not sure how we get an initial value in though.
  338. # [15:37] <eliezerb> Garbee, I would like to let this for other moment... if you don't mind
  339. # [15:37] <@frozenice> all the applies_to fields in the templates are for generating a list of children on the respective page
  340. # [15:37] <@frozenice> I think
  341. # [15:37] <eliezerb> We need to see what should be included
  342. # [15:37] <eliezerb> And removed from this template
  343. # [15:38] <@Garbee> wait, can we make dropdown inputs for these?
  344. # [15:38] <@Garbee> because we could make interface a dropdown.
  345. # [15:38] <@Garbee> Since there are a fixed number of possible inputs.
  346. # [15:38] <eliezerb> Yes, we can
  347. # [15:38] <@frozenice> you shouldn't need to remove anything
  348. # [15:39] <@Garbee> Yea, we definitely need to not remove anything right now. Removal needs to be discussed since there is a lot of content that could be affected.
  349. # [15:39] <eliezerb> frozenice, :)
  350. # [15:39] <@frozenice> the only template parameter that's not used right now seems to be Interface
  351. # [15:39] <eliezerb> Saying "remove" for the TODO annotations
  352. # [15:39] <eliezerb> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Property:Event_applies_to
  353. # [15:39] <eliezerb> frozenice, yes
  354. # [15:40] <eliezerb> So, let's add Interface too
  355. # [15:40] <eliezerb> What kind of data Interface will handle Garbee ?
  356. # [15:40] <@frozenice> the template says it should be an URL, but I don't know if pages already exist, that could be put there
  357. # [15:41] <@frozenice> I'd just leave it for a later iteration
  358. # [15:41] <eliezerb> frozenice, What you suggest? Let's leave as it is for now?
  359. # [15:41] <@frozenice> yup
  360. # [15:41] <eliezerb> Ok
  361. # [15:41] <@Garbee> Looks like a good few initial values are, Focus, Mouse, Keyboard, Composition for the interfaces.
  362. # [15:42] <eliezerb> Do you mind in fill a bug about this Garbee ?
  363. # [15:42] <eliezerb> http://project.webplatform.org/tmpl
  364. # [15:44] <@frozenice> the template seems like it wanted to do some more complicated stuff for Interface, like point to a page and also "list properties and methods", I guess it's not really a dropdown
  365. # [15:44] <eliezerb> +1 frozenice
  366. # [15:45] <eliezerb> Looks like that should work like the Event_applies_to
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  372. # [15:54] <@Garbee> frozenice: We can have it automatically link to the right interface page based on what is selected.
  373. # [15:55] <@Garbee> As far as listing properties and methods, that is something that could also be done based on which interface is selected as long as it is uniform across the events.
  374. # [15:55] <@Garbee> uniform across the events of a given interface*
  375. # [15:55] <@frozenice> it would pull that list from the Interface page later yeah
  376. # [15:58] <eliezerb> In the field "Applies to", you guys think that this message is necessary:
  377. # [15:58] <eliezerb> Applies to (the API object this is part of; if you don't specify this correctly it will not automatically show up on the main API page.):
  378. # [15:58] <@Garbee> I have no clue what that is even trying to say personally.
  379. # [15:58] <@Garbee> Sounds like it needs to be reworded at least.
  380. # [15:58] <@Garbee> :P
  381. # [15:58] * @Garbee is going to be leaving in a minute or two.
  382. # [15:59] <@frozenice> I'd leave it in for now
  383. # [15:59] <@frozenice> we don't need to make it perfect for the moment :)
  384. # [16:00] <eliezerb> Ok frozenice, This destroy the form look and feel
  385. # [16:01] <@frozenice> looks a bit better with the other fields now (when you fix the nowiki thing)
  386. # [16:02] <eliezerb> I just updated
  387. # [16:02] <eliezerb> lol
  388. # [16:02] <eliezerb> frozenice, I created an external template
  389. # [16:02] <@frozenice> neat
  390. # [16:02] <eliezerb> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:Event_Form_Section
  391. # [16:03] <@frozenice> saw that in the log in #webplatform-bot ;)
  392. # [16:03] <eliezerb> Oh :$
  393. # [16:03] <eliezerb> What you think?
  394. # [16:03] <@frozenice> it's better than ever!
  395. # [16:04] <eliezerb> Those fields in the Form don't look well organized
  396. # [16:04] <@Garbee> eliezerb: Awesome, it works.
  397. # [16:04] <eliezerb> Garbee, yay!
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  399. # [16:05] <@Garbee> Except default action is input (and is in the system) but not displaying.
  400. # [16:05] <@Garbee> :(
  401. # [16:05] <@Garbee> Ok, heading out the door now. See ya'll in a bit.
  402. # [16:05] <@frozenice> bb
  403. # [16:07] * eliezerb is checking looking at Default action
  404. # [16:07] * eliezerb is *checking* Default action
  405. # [16:07] <@frozenice> lowercase action
  406. # [16:08] <eliezerb> Yes
  407. # [16:08] <eliezerb> Just update
  408. # [16:08] <@frozenice> :)
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  410. # [16:09] <eliezerb> frozenice, I'm not sure if the links are going to work
  411. # [16:11] <@frozenice> dunno, we'll get around to it eventually :)
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  413. # [16:11] <eliezerb> Did you tried ?
  414. # [16:11] <eliezerb> s/tried/try
  415. # [16:12] <@frozenice> nope
  416. # [16:12] <eliezerb> Forget it
  417. # [16:12] <eliezerb> Works \o/
  418. # [16:12] <@frozenice> :)
  419. # [16:12] <eliezerb> I just tryied with [link]
  420. # [16:12] <eliezerb> And it is [[link]]
  421. # [16:13] <eliezerb> sorry
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  424. # [16:15] <eliezerb> frozenice, arg, it's not necessary to use [ ]
  425. # [16:16] <eliezerb> frozenice, Forget everything http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links
  426. # [16:16] <eliezerb> Done
  427. # [16:16] <eliezerb> It works
  428. # [16:16] <@frozenice> :D
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  462. # [18:16] <@Garbee> frozenice: Do you think a good way to display the context info for a DOM event would be like a CSS Properties values? ( i.e. http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/animation )
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  464. # [18:17] <@Garbee> I can't think of any other way to structure that kind of information that would be concise.
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  476. # [18:50] <@frozenice> hm, maybe
  477. # [19:11] <@Garbee> I already setup the keypress page with it. If anyone can come up with anything better let them.
  478. # [19:12] <@Garbee> oh yea, that is the best way. lolz
  479. # [19:12] <@Garbee> definition list.
  480. # [19:12] <@Garbee> Just checked the output source.
  481. # [19:12] <@Garbee> shepazu: You around?
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