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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jan 29 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #webplatform
  3. # [00:01] <eliezerb> renoirb, This is a little bit scary
  4. # [00:05] <@renoirb> i know.
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  9. # [00:24] <eliezerb> renoirb, All the jobs were complete
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  12. # [00:29] <@renoirb> WHA!?
  13. # [00:29] <@renoirb> is it now?
  14. # [00:29] <@renoirb> no way!
  15. # [00:29] <@renoirb> eliezerb:
  16. # [00:29] * @renoirb is dancing.
  17. # [00:29] <eliezerb> hahaha
  18. # [00:29] <@renoirb> After all the efforts to mail the systems email list and all
  19. # [00:29] * eliezerb feeling relieved
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  166. # [13:50] <@Garbee> chrismills: How have you been?
  167. # [13:52] <@chrismills> Garbee: not bad at all. Still ludicrously busy with MDN and enjoying it, but no time at all to think about WPD
  168. # [13:52] <@Garbee> Ah, get a new job, then instantly jump to the dark side.
  169. # [13:52] <@Garbee> :(
  170. # [13:52] <@Garbee> lolz
  171. # [13:53] <@Garbee> At least the redesign looks nice at MDN.
  172. # [13:55] <@chrismills> aye ;-)
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  238. # [20:21] <@julee> harooooo!
  239. # [20:22] <@julee> Anyone want to help create a JavaScript refman page that we'll use as the golden standard for other webplatform.org pages?
  240. # [20:24] <@Garbee> Link me to a current page please. JS is a big target.
  241. # [20:25] <@Garbee> I may be able to take it on over the next few days while we are discussing DOM org.
  242. # [20:25] <@julee> Well, part of the exercise is deciding which one…
  243. # [20:25] <@Garbee> Ah. Well then I'll dig through the section when I'm at the store. ( mobile right now.)
  244. # [20:25] <@julee> Have you seen Max's output at docs.webplatform.org/test/javascript ?
  245. # [20:26] <@julee> k thank you, Garbee!
  246. # [20:26] <@Garbee> Nope. Haven't seen it.
  247. # [20:26] <@Garbee> I knew they were doing it though.
  248. # [20:26] <@julee> Only thing, if we could get it done by Wednesday, we might be able to startup WPWednesdays then.
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  250. # [20:26] * @julee is very hopeful
  251. # [20:27] <@Garbee> I've been focusing on DOM standard reading since that got my interest the other week.
  252. # [20:27] <@julee> Cool. But the next WPW content project will be JavaScript. Dave has only been doing a reorg, not the content.
  253. # [20:28] <@Garbee> I know. I got going on the content. :p
  254. # [20:29] <@Garbee> I need to do something other than PHP and JS all the time.
  255. # [20:30] <@julee> lol
  256. # [20:30] <@Garbee> Ugh. Irccloud seems to be listing part of my messages.
  257. # [20:31] <@Garbee> Losing*
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  267. # [21:16] <@renoirb> Hi all.
  268. # [21:17] <@frozenice> hello
  269. # [21:18] <@frozenice> renoirb: did you respond to Pat's mail on monday?
  270. # [21:27] <@renoirb> uhm.
  271. # [21:27] <@renoirb> no I didnt.
  272. # [21:27] <@renoirb> shoot.
  273. # [21:27] <@renoirb> I got mind stuck with Tobie counter proposal
  274. # [21:27] <@renoirb> ... and making it in javascript :)
  275. # [21:28] <@renoirb> ill answer now
  276. # [21:30] <@frozenice> ok great :)
  277. # [21:35] <@Garbee> julee: Looking over the content in test/javascript, I don't think I can handle putting together a good demo page for what other thing should look like.
  278. # [21:36] <@Garbee> I just don't know enough to really tackle that. Some of this stuff has a lot of detail in it already. A lot of which I'd have a hard time understanding what needs to be removed and what should be kept to be as concise as possible.
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  282. # [21:50] <@julee> Garbee: I hear you. Let's see if some crack coders will volunteer. There was a lot of interest when MS first donated the content last Summer.
  283. # [21:51] <@frozenice> are "crack coders" what I think they are? :D
  284. # [21:51] <@frozenice> probably not.
  285. # [21:56] <@Garbee> I don't code on crack. But I do know some people that do it, but they don't code.
  286. # [21:56] <@Garbee> So I don't think they are what you were thinking.
  287. # [21:57] <@Garbee> Ok, that *I* part sounded wrong. I don't do crack at all FYI.
  288. # [21:57] <@frozenice> ;)
  289. # [21:57] <@Garbee> Although, I do have a friend that does a little too often...
  290. # [21:57] <@frozenice> maybe he should learn to code
  291. # [21:57] <@Garbee> No!
  292. # [21:57] <@Garbee> Let's get him just being able to do basic math.
  293. # [21:57] <eliezerb> May I head *Crack*?
  294. # [21:57] <@Garbee> That will be fine.
  295. # [21:57] <@frozenice> basic math is the gateway drug to coding!
  296. # [21:57] <@Garbee> This guy was stupid before the drugs.
  297. # [21:58] <@Garbee> Then doing them.... Uh yea. Didn't mix well.
  298. # [21:58] <eliezerb> heard*
  299. # [21:58] <eliezerb> May I heard *Crack*?
  300. # [21:58] <@Garbee> I sat down one day and cleaned up his computer. (New Windows 8 one.)
  301. # [21:59] <@Garbee> Then in about 10 minutes of him installing the software he wanted, I had to go clean it again from all the toolbars and crap.
  302. # [21:59] <@Garbee> :(
  303. # [21:59] <@frozenice> meh
  304. # [21:59] <eliezerb> outch
  305. # [22:01] <@Garbee> I do code to focus music though.
  306. # [22:01] <@Garbee> I have been way more productive the past month or so of using focus@will ( https://focusatwill.com ) then I ever have been before while coding.
  307. # [22:02] <@Garbee> And the keypress event I documented the other day in like 3 hours at most... Done to focus@will.
  308. # [22:02] <@Garbee> ;)
  309. # [22:02] <@frozenice> never heard of that
  310. # [22:02] <@Garbee> That is an awesome service.
  311. # [22:02] <@Garbee> I learned of it a few weeks ago from Steve Gibson on Security Now.
  312. # [22:02] <@Garbee> It is a site which does neuroscience and selects music to play for you which are aimed to help you focus.
  313. # [22:03] <@Garbee> Free gives you an hour at a time with set tracks for each type of music.
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  315. # [22:03] <@Garbee> Paid (which I now have) gives you all the musics and you can change the "speed" of the music.
  316. # [22:03] <@Garbee> Changing the speed is supposed to help you work faster or slower depending on how you set it.
  317. # [22:04] <@Garbee> Plus a lame "productivity tracker" is paid (just some junk thrown on top, not really worth using at all imo.)
  318. # [22:04] <@Garbee> But the extra music and speed changing is *so* worth it to me.
  319. # [22:04] <@Garbee> But, ofc with anything that is about brain science... TRY it before buying it.
  320. # [22:05] <@Garbee> People will react differently, for me it works.
  321. # [22:05] <eliezerb> Garbee, interisting
  322. # [22:05] <@Garbee> I'm actually using it right now while reading over the specification for document start so I can work on that page.
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  324. # [22:07] <@Garbee> ok, or I'm not reading the right thing.
  325. # [22:09] <@Garbee> Does anyone know which W3C spec actually contains the document start event? I can't seem to locate it.
  326. # [22:11] <@frozenice> there is a document start event? :o
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  328. # [22:15] <@Garbee> oh, not for the document.
  329. # [22:15] <@Garbee> Only for the marquee element.
  330. # [22:15] <@Garbee> Our URL scheme confused me.
  331. # [22:15] <@Garbee> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom/Document/start
  332. # [22:15] <@frozenice> good old <marquee> aye
  333. # [22:16] <eliezerb> old but gold
  334. # [22:16] <@Garbee> onload is the thing for when the document is done (which is basically start.)
  335. # [22:16] <@Garbee> That explains why I couldn't find a document start event. :P
  336. # [22:16] <@Garbee> Yay, my Googling doesn't suck. Just my actual brain.
  337. # [22:17] <@Garbee> This should be like Marquee/start vs Document/start
  338. # [22:17] <@Garbee> :/
  339. # [22:17] <@frozenice> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/ms536970(v=vs.85).aspx says "There are no standards that apply here."
  340. # [22:18] <@Garbee> frozenice: Our docs do too. ;)
  341. # [22:18] <@Garbee> It is the MSDN docs.
  342. # [22:18] <@frozenice> indeed
  343. # [22:18] <@Garbee> So should we just delete this page then? No standard *and* it is on a deprecated element anyways.
  344. # [22:18] <@frozenice> maybe flag it
  345. # [22:19] <@Garbee> Seems like something that can just be tossed since it is for something from the last century.
  346. # [22:19] <@Garbee> Yea, I'll flag for deletion and let someone else deal with it.
  347. # [22:21] <@Garbee> I also set it to a non-standard status.
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  349. # [22:24] <@frozenice> nn
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  354. # [22:41] * @Garbee thinks the DOM events will be a bit sparse on content.
  355. # [22:42] <@Garbee> Really, how much can be said for this in reference material: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-type-load
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