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  181. # [16:30] <new-xin> 哈啰
  182. # [16:33] <@mdel> hello!
  183. # [16:34] <eliezerb> Hey mdel :)
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  229. # [19:18] <@julee> Hello, everyone!
  230. # [19:19] <@julee> Looking for examples for the Array page http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/javascript/Array
  231. # [19:20] <@julee> ones that use best practices and illustrate the best use cases
  232. # [19:20] <@julee> hehehe
  233. # [19:25] <@Garbee> julee: Looks to me like it fails to point out using the short array syntax ( ['item','item2'] ) unless it is supposed to be excluded for some reason.
  234. # [19:33] <@julee> Hi, Garbee: I agree. I'll change that. But what I think the page really needs is more / better / best practices examples.
  235. # [19:37] <@Garbee> ugh. I see this and I really want to go, "Let's explain what arrays are used for." but the other part of me goes "You're an idiot. That is what other documentation material should do."
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  237. # [19:43] <@julee> Garbee: I've written some stuff, but I'm stuck on entering it.
  238. # [19:44] <@Garbee> Well, this is reference material. We should assume that the people looking at this know what an array is used for.
  239. # [19:44] <@julee> eliezerb: there's a "main content" field, but there's not heading.
  240. # [19:44] <@Garbee> Main content has no heading.
  241. # [19:44] <@julee> So, it's just supposed to merge with "Remarks" ?
  242. # [19:44] <eliezerb> julee: This is free content area
  243. # [19:44] <@julee> Then why is it a separate section?
  244. # [19:45] <eliezerb> julee: To allow add other content, some new section that was not included in templates
  245. # [19:45] <@julee> After examples, there's Remarks, and after Remarks, there's main content.
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  247. # [19:45] <@Garbee> Main content should be above remarks I think.
  248. # [19:46] <@Garbee> Main content should be right after the summary on pages.
  249. # [19:46] <@Garbee> At least I'd think so.
  250. # [19:47] <@julee> I think Doug wanted the syntax high up.
  251. # [19:47] <@Garbee> ah.
  252. # [19:47] <@julee> But, I don't want to redesign the template right now.
  253. # [19:47] <@julee> Anyway.
  254. # [19:47] <eliezerb> I can move Main Content to come before the Remarks
  255. # [19:48] <@julee> We spent too much time on it.
  256. # [19:48] <@Garbee> eliezerb: Nah don't.
  257. # [19:48] <@Garbee> Having the syntax up top for this makes sense for devs.
  258. # [19:48] <@Garbee> To quickly get in and get out.
  259. # [19:48] <@Garbee> But, we should find a way to make the main content section stand out from the remarks section.
  260. # [19:48] <eliezerb> julee: You can add some title
  261. # [19:49] <eliezerb> Just typing normal MW markdown
  262. # [19:49] <@Garbee> A title of "Content" or "main content" sounds really odd.
  263. # [19:49] <@Garbee> So what should it be headed as so things are clearly separated?
  264. # [19:49] <@julee> eliezerb : I think I just needed to understand that "main content" is really an "Additional notes" section.
  265. # [19:50] <eliezerb> julee: And Remarks for other notes?
  266. # [19:50] <@Garbee> Yea, we should probably rename main content to additional notes then.
  267. # [19:50] <@Garbee> That does sound right.
  268. # [19:51] <@Garbee> The main content in this section is the syntax and definition imo.
  269. # [19:51] <@julee> eliezerb : The idea is that I have some summary content, syntax, examples — and know where to put these.
  270. # [19:51] <@julee> now, when I go to discuss the API, where should I put it?
  271. # [19:51] <@julee> I figured "main content"
  272. # [19:52] <@Garbee> What kind of content would go into an API section for JS?
  273. # [19:52] * @julee misread content already in remarks as examples.
  274. # [19:52] * @Garbee still has blurred lines between DOM and JS stuff.
  275. # [19:53] <@julee> Garbee : the JS namespace is for the language reference — stuff in the ECMAScript spec
  276. # [19:53] <@julee> eliezerb : So, I think, instead, I should put this discussion content in the Remarks section.
  277. # [19:54] <eliezerb> julee: In a separate field?
  278. # [19:54] <@julee> And then, treat the "Main content" section as the "Additional notes" section: notes, import notes, 3rd party links, etc.
  279. # [19:55] <@julee> eliezerb: ?
  280. # [19:55] <eliezerb> I guess that I got
  281. # [19:55] <eliezerb> One sec
  282. # [19:56] <eliezerb> julee: Can you check if we have some content in the Main Content field?
  283. # [19:57] <@julee> There were some hard-coded prop/fn/method lists that Max imported in there.
  284. # [19:57] <@julee> Above that, I started adding some detailed description about Arrays.
  285. # [19:58] <eliezerb> julee: That hard-coded is something that we still need
  286. # [19:58] <eliezerb> So I can not get rid of the Main Content field right now
  287. # [19:58] <@julee> I'm not requesting you do.
  288. # [19:58] <eliezerb> What I can do is add a Notes Section
  289. # [19:58] <eliezerb> Like the CSS ones
  290. # [19:58] <@julee> First, I'm trying to understand where you envisioned things would go.
  291. # [19:59] <@julee> OK, before you do any of that…
  292. # [19:59] <@julee> Maybe I can pass you my local file that I've been crafting on Array.
  293. # [20:00] <@julee> And you take the content in each section and apply enter it on the Array page using your template.
  294. # [20:00] <eliezerb> julee: Sure
  295. # [20:00] <@julee> Would you do that for me?
  296. # [20:00] <@julee> Then, I could see how you intended it to work.
  297. # [20:01] <@julee> If it doesn't work, then we can make the necessary changes or give folks a work around.
  298. # [20:01] <@julee> And I
  299. # [20:01] <@julee> am sorry I didn't catch this earlier.
  300. # [20:01] <@julee> But I think we can work with it, if you'll help me.
  301. # [20:02] <eliezerb> julee: Can you email me the file?
  302. # [20:02] <@julee> Will do. And thanks much!
  303. # [20:02] <eliezerb> julee: I've to say sorry for this issues
  304. # [20:02] * @julee 's computer is running out of steam.
  305. # [20:03] <@julee> No! I should have seen it! You were busy actually implementing the templates — something no one else able to take on!
  306. # [20:03] <@julee> brb
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