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  1. # Session Start: Tue Feb 18 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #webplatform
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  4. # [00:08] <@shepazu> renoirb, looks like w3.org, including IRC and email, is down
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  6. # [00:15] <@renoirb> oh yeah?
  7. # [00:15] <@renoirb> ok
  8. # [00:15] <@renoirb> that's why I had reconnecting on my bot
  9. # [00:17] <@renoirb> I had to hack the bug genie, a few emails were broken and because of them the queue was never being emptied
  10. # [00:18] <@renoirb> shepazu: ^
  11. # [00:18] <@shepazu> renoirb, interesting
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  15. # [01:13] <@Garbee> Our TBG install renoirb?
  16. # [01:13] <@Garbee> I didn't think that used a W3 server.
  17. # [01:14] <@Garbee> W3C*
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  26. # [01:59] <@renoirb> Hey Garbee, no its not related to TBG
  27. # [01:59] <@renoirb> The error shepazu was talking is that W3C IRC and email servers are having issues
  28. # [02:00] <@renoirb> But TBG was never sending emails due to an error. I'm documenting what is the error
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  311. # [14:29] <@Garbee> renoirb: btw, thanks for blowing up my inbox with the issue tracker emails.
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  313. # [14:30] <@Garbee> I was kinda wondering why I never got them when I should have been getting them. :P
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  344. # [15:48] <@renoirb> Hey Garbee. Do not thank me, thank TBG to have no way (without hacking the code) to purge a mail queue.
  345. # [15:49] <@renoirb> ... i had to patch temporarily the code to finish the mail queue, so you got less :)
  346. # [15:50] <@Garbee> I'm going to link zegenie to your page.
  347. # [15:50] <@Garbee> It is moved over to swiftmailer in the latest code though.
  348. # [15:50] <@Garbee> vs the built in stuff.
  349. # [15:50] <@renoirb> what is zegenie?
  350. # [15:51] <@renoirb> If TBG had used json_encode()/json_decode() at least, they could had avoided the errors that was breaking the mail queue in the first place
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  352. # [15:57] <@Garbee> zegenie is the guy who writes TBG.
  353. # [15:57] <@Garbee> #thebuggenie
  354. # [15:57] <@Garbee> ^^ software's channel.
  355. # [15:57] <@Garbee> Yea, I much prefer json encode/decode myself.
  356. # [15:58] <@Garbee> JSON is beautiful. serialize is not.
  357. # [15:59] <@Garbee> I've seriously thought ( and should even have some demo code somewhere) about replacing TBG with a custom thing done quickly on Laravel. It would be much simpler to manage and use. Wouldn't look as good since I can't design at all. But we'd have control until something better is done.
  358. # [15:59] <@Garbee> For all we need an issue tracker for, it is just a few relationships.
  359. # [16:00] <@frozenice> or just use GitHub :)
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  366. # [16:24] <@renoirb> There are too many things to think of to spend time doing it custom Garbee
  367. # [16:24] <@Garbee> Yea, but this is really fast and easy. It isn't like the doc engine. :P
  368. # [16:25] <@Garbee> Wouldn't be the cleanest code in the world, but it would hold us over better (or just work better if it is what we kept on using.)
  369. # [16:25] <@renoirb> my point :)
  370. # [16:25] <@Garbee> frozenice: Github would suck for tracking our doc work.
  371. # [16:25] <@renoirb> no, TBG is good enough.
  372. # [16:26] <@renoirb> Until we find better.
  373. # [16:26] <@Garbee> There is no better with our current setup.
  374. # [16:26] * @Garbee looked at *a lot* of stuff.
  375. # [16:26] <@frozenice> what doc work Garbee?
  376. # [16:27] <@Garbee> frozenice: That thing hardly anyone does except on Wednesdays. ;)
  377. # [16:27] <@frozenice> we don't track that in TBG anyways, do we?
  378. # [16:28] <@Garbee> frozenice: Well, that was one of the points for TBG. It would make tracking those edits simpler and more effective.
  379. # [16:28] <@Garbee> Content project.
  380. # [16:28] <@Garbee> Hardly anyone uses it though (if anyone.)
  381. # [16:28] <@Garbee> We really should find a way to roll WPW tracking into it. I just hate the whole dual-accounts thing between the docs and tracker.
  382. # [16:29] <@Garbee> Plus I don't have the time to spearhead working on how that workflow would work.
  383. # [16:30] <@Garbee> I think I honestly got frustrated and burnt out just trying to get TBG installed. :/
  384. # [16:33] <@frozenice> I still think GitHub would be an easy replacement for the whole issues thing
  385. # [16:35] <@Garbee> Github is good for software specific issues. But as far as the content goes considering everything we do is self-hosted open-source stuff, we should continue that. I just wished it didn't cause multiple accounts for the same domain. :/
  386. # [16:36] <@Garbee> There are other reasons to not use GH issues for the content as well. I'm just too lazy to go into details right now.
  387. # [16:36] <@frozenice> dunno what's so special about content
  388. # [16:36] <@Garbee> Probably only 2 or 3 big ones though.
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  409. # [18:00] <@renoirb> frozenice: I think we might get to work on that sooner or later. I just got a message on TBG on an issue I wrote, it compelled me to reply. Email notification might help for that! :)
  410. # [18:01] <@frozenice> GitHub has those too :P
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  430. # [18:40] <@renoirb> frozenice: that's what I say. We will look to work on the issue management later. First things first. We need to have more contributors first :)
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  484. # [23:24] <@Garbee> Ok, if you guys need me for anything, email me.
  485. # [23:24] <@Garbee> I'm going to run an experiment and try to go a week without IRC.
  486. # [23:24] <@Garbee> see ya'll later.
  487. # [23:37] <+eliezerb> Garbee: Good luck man! :) We'll miss you
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