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  136. # [17:56] <+jensimmons> hiya!
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  143. # [18:05] <carlos__> is there a way to generate a JSON array from the doc site's CSS content?
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  147. # [18:17] <+eliezerb> hey carlos__
  148. # [18:18] <+eliezerb> carlos__: Like this -> http://docs.webplatform.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=css/properties/box-shadow&format=json
  149. # [18:19] <carlos__> I'm generating D3 visualizations, need mostly URL for the web platform docs
  150. # [18:20] <+eliezerb> carlos__: This example came from the standard MediaWiki API used to integrate Webplatform Docs and Brackets http://blog.webplatform.org/2013/05/web-platform-docs-in-brackets/
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  155. # [18:21] <+eliezerb> carlos__: You need this data as a JSON -> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties ?
  156. # [18:22] <carlos__> yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for
  157. # [18:23] <+eliezerb> carlos__: Maybe something like http://docs.webplatform.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=css/properties&format=json
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  159. # [18:25] <carlos__> can we generatae URLs from this JSON?, it's the URL I really need
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  161. # [18:28] <@Garbee> carlos__: Yea you can.
  162. # [18:28] <@Garbee> parse > links > *
  163. # [18:28] <@Garbee> That is the path.
  164. # [18:29] <@Garbee> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/ ---prepend this to what you recieve in the JSON.
  165. # [18:29] <@Garbee> That would give you the full URI to the content in question.
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  167. # [18:33] <+eliezerb> Garbee: hey!
  168. # [18:33] <+eliezerb> Garbee: Something like this looks cool: http://docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?format=json&title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=500&q=[[Category%3ACSS+Properties]]&p=format=json
  169. # [18:33] <@Garbee> oh wow, way better.
  170. # [18:33] <+eliezerb> oops
  171. # [18:33] <+eliezerb> docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=500&q=[[Category%3ACSS+Properties]]&p=format=json
  172. # [18:33] <+eliezerb> arg
  173. # [18:34] <+eliezerb> http://docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=500&q=[[Category%3ACSS+Properties]]&p=format=json
  174. # [18:34] <+eliezerb> carlos__: Is this what you were looking for?
  175. # [18:34] <carlos__> checking it now
  176. # [18:36] <carlos__> this is perfect... thanks :D
  177. # [18:37] <+eliezerb> >D
  178. # [18:38] <@frozenice> carlos__: if you want to dig deeper... http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:API :)
  179. # [18:38] <carlos__> thanks
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  181. # [18:45] <+eliezerb> hey frozenice!
  182. # [18:45] <+eliezerb> It's been a long time!
  183. # [18:45] <@frozenice> heya eliezerb! how's life? :)
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  185. # [18:46] <+eliezerb> frozenice: Doing great! Last year at college, could not be greater! About you?
  186. # [18:47] <@frozenice> cool :) I've been pretty bus @work and @home
  187. # [18:47] <@frozenice> *busy
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  191. # [18:54] <+eliezerb> frozenice: I can imagine
  192. # [18:59] <king4life> Hi guys
  193. # [18:59] <king4life> I just signed up for a task on http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday
  194. # [19:00] <king4life> Hope that's OK :)
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  197. # [19:02] <+eliezerb> king4life: hey! Welcome!
  198. # [19:02] <king4life> Thank you
  199. # [19:02] <@frozenice> we are grateful forEach contribution ;)
  200. # [19:03] <+eliezerb> lol
  201. # [19:03] <king4life> I will try to map out some useful information.
  202. # [19:03] <king4life> <blink>map</blink>
  203. # [19:03] <+eliezerb> king4life: Do you have preference for some of that properties?
  204. # [19:03] <@frozenice> :)
  205. # [19:04] <@Garbee> frozenice: haha nice one. Very subtle.
  206. # [19:04] <@Garbee> ;)
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  208. # [19:04] <king4life> I will try to hit all the properties (?)
  209. # [19:05] <+eliezerb> king4life: You can start with the one that is your favorite
  210. # [19:05] <king4life> OK
  211. # [19:05] <+eliezerb> And one by one strike all them
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  216. # [19:45] <@frozenice> renoirb: does our h instance log errors to anywhere?
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  219. # [19:47] <@renoirb> hey frozenice
  220. # [19:47] <@renoirb> I searched and did not find.
  221. # [19:47] <@renoirb> Its not all finished
  222. # [19:48] <@renoirb> I mean, a tweak or two has to be pushed soon enough and i'll ask them about logging
  223. # [19:48] <@renoirb> that's in my todo
  224. # [19:48] <@frozenice> do you think it's hard to setup logging? I wanted to trace why it doesn't send the registration mails
  225. # [19:50] <@frozenice> I don't receive mine either, there is also a 500 on registration, but without logs I'm stuck :(
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  229. # [19:56] <@renoirb> oh, ok frozenice
  230. # [19:56] <@renoirb> let me check
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  234. # [20:13] <@renoirb> frozenice: server is called notes1
  235. # [20:13] <@frozenice> yeah I already searched there
  236. # [20:14] <@renoirb> ok, its in setup.py I think
  237. # [20:14] <@renoirb> i'm not used much with python
  238. # [20:14] <@renoirb> not.
  239. # [20:14] <@renoirb> wait
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  241. # [20:16] <@renoirb> I think its around here http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/latest/narr/logging.html
  242. # [20:17] <@renoirb> frozenice ^
  243. # [20:17] <@frozenice> yeah logger_root's handler is set to console in h.ini
  244. # [20:17] <@renoirb> h.ini is the config file, triggered by /etc/init/hypothesis.conf
  245. # [20:17] <@renoirb> that's how i start it.
  246. # [20:20] <@frozenice> maybe we should just pipe stdout to a file or something
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  248. # [20:24] <@renoirb> yeah, that's not bad.
  249. # [20:24] <@frozenice> or just stderr, since logger_h seems to write to stderr
  250. # [20:24] <@renoirb> letme do that
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  252. # [20:28] <@renoirb> you can tail at /var/log/hypothesis frozenice
  253. # [20:28] <@renoirb> I started the service manually with ... > /var/log/hypothesis 2>&1
  254. # [20:28] <@frozenice> thx :)
  255. # [20:29] <@renoirb> I also augmented the logging level. hopefully it was at the right place. Worse case, it'll be overridden.
  256. # [20:29] <@frozenice> yay stacktrace
  257. # [20:32] <@frozenice> something to do with sessions... seems likely, as I also can't stay logged in
  258. # [20:34] <@frozenice> renoirb: do you stay logged in after you reload notes.*?
  259. # [20:34] <@renoirb> no, its a screen window
  260. # [20:34] <@renoirb> euh. oh! that
  261. # [20:34] <@frozenice> :)
  262. # [20:34] <@renoirb> you have to login to each domain
  263. # [20:34] <@renoirb> because its cross-site, right
  264. # [20:34] <@renoirb> they might have something in the works for that though.
  265. # [20:34] <@renoirb> they are searching, btw :)
  266. # [20:34] <@frozenice> yeah I already tried all domains
  267. # [20:34] <@frozenice> just plain http://notes.webplatform.org/
  268. # [20:34] <@renoirb> https://hypothes.is/jobs/
  269. # [20:35] <@renoirb> I can login, and I got the mail... i'm waiting they tell me when to redeploy (and which tag). They know the issues
  270. # [20:36] <@frozenice> right, I also had some troubles connecting to the websocket streamer
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  272. # [20:42] <@frozenice> renoirb: do you maybe need to add something to nginx to allow websocket proxying to h?
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  275. # [20:45] <@frozenice> seems likely
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  277. # [20:52] <@frozenice> renoirb: wanna try adding those lines? http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/websocket.html
  278. # [20:54] <@frozenice> WS transport should also reduce the stress on the server, everyone connected is using XHR polling right now
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  284. # [21:04] <@renoirb> Homepage is deployed!!
  285. # [21:04] <@renoirb> jen's work is live
  286. # [21:04] <@frozenice> yay! :)
  287. # [21:10] <@renoirb> So, frozenice, you say that i should add line
  288. # [21:10] <@renoirb> proxy_http_version 1.1;
  289. # [21:10] <@renoirb> proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
  290. # [21:10] <@renoirb> proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
  291. # [21:10] <@frozenice> I think so
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  293. # [21:22] <@Garbee> Wow, the new homepage is much better.
  294. # [21:22] <@Garbee> Maybe if people can learn to read it will reduce the number of "What is WPD?" questions I get.
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  296. # [21:40] <@frozenice> renoirb: any progress?
  297. # [21:47] <@renoirb> ok fro, let me check that
  298. # [21:48] <@renoirb> frozenice: done
  299. # [21:48] <@renoirb> try it now :/
  300. # [21:48] <@renoirb> sorry for the delay
  301. # [21:48] <@frozenice> np, let's see..
  302. # [21:49] <@renoirb> just that its 21:00
  303. # [21:49] <@renoirb> in your part of the world
  304. # [21:49] <@renoirb> ~
  305. # [21:49] <@frozenice> 21:51 even :)
  306. # [21:49] <@frozenice> Error during WebSocket handshake: 'Connection' header value is not 'Upgrade': keep-alive
  307. # [21:49] <@frozenice> hmm
  308. # [21:51] <king4life> Whenever I see "WPD" I think "WordPerfect Document"
  309. # [21:51] <@frozenice> lol :P
  310. # [21:51] <@renoirb> hahaha, you are so right king4life
  311. # [21:52] <@renoirb> But I do not recall having keep alive
  312. # [21:52] <@renoirb> uhm. wait.
  313. # [21:52] <@renoirb> that's GUnicorn thing answering
  314. # [21:55] <@Garbee> We have unicorns in WPD?
  315. # [21:57] <@frozenice> of course!
  316. # [21:59] <@renoirb> those ones > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yYZa-70u_M
  317. # [22:00] <@renoirb> love that song!
  318. # [22:03] <@renoirb> you knew that song Garbee ?
  319. # [22:04] <@Garbee> nope.
  320. # [22:04] <@Garbee> I do now.
  321. # [22:04] <@renoirb> and now frozenice
  322. # [22:05] <@renoirb> I just seen this here: http://thruflo.com/post/23226473852/websockets-varnish-nginx
  323. # [22:05] <@renoirb> same use case that we will use
  324. # [22:07] <@renoirb> frozenice, I asked the developer
  325. # [22:07] <@renoirb> one of, that is.
  326. # [22:08] <@renoirb> tilgovi
  327. # [22:09] <@renoirb> frozenice: how do you test?
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  341. # [22:25] <@frozenice> hmm, maybe we need a newer nginx version... 1.1.19 seems pretty old
  342. # [22:26] <@frozenice> hm, might be worth a try
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  396. # [23:14] <king4life> I wonder why anyone would want to use forEach instead of map.
  397. # [23:14] <king4life> I suppose it could be more efficient if you aren't using the return value of map.
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  400. # [23:19] <FeatheredSerpent> king4life, for which language and why map over forEach?
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  402. # [23:23] <king4life> The language is Javascript
  403. # [23:23] <king4life> or ECMAscript as the case may be.
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  408. # [23:24] <king4life> Why, is that, as far as I can tell, the functionality of forEach is a strict subset of map.
  409. # [23:24] <king4life> So, why would you add forEach to the language when you have map?
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  412. # [23:39] <glosoli> king4life: At least from MDN doesn't forEach is meant to work with Map object and map with any iterable ?
  413. # [23:40] <glosoli> Since MDN states that forEach is invoked on "the Map object being traversed"
  414. # [23:42] <king4life> glosoli: THat is an interesting distinction
  415. # [23:42] <king4life> I should specify in my case, I am specifically comparing Array.map with Array.forEach
  416. # [23:43] <glosoli> ah sorry :)
  417. # [23:43] <king4life> Thanks for pointing out the Map object to me though.
  418. # [23:44] <king4life> MDN says it is part of the Harmony EcmaScript 6 proposal.
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  420. # [23:44] <king4life> Can anyone comment on the Web Platform strategy for documenting upcoming standards?
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  422. # [23:45] <glosoli> Interesting, Array.prototype.map callback has more params
  423. # [23:45] <glosoli> Or they are not specified in forEach who knows now, would like to see implementations :D
  424. # [23:47] <king4life> To me it looks like the callback signatur is the same?
  425. # [23:47] <king4life> (element_value, index, array)
  426. # [23:48] <glosoli> king4life: yeah docs confused me a bit
  427. # [23:49] <glosoli> king4life: ha I think I found difference, need to check in FF sec
  428. # [23:49] <king4life> Nice :)
  429. # [23:52] <glosoli> king4life: at least FF implementation of forEach returns nothing it does not create new object
  430. # [23:52] <glosoli> And MDN states that too
  431. # [23:52] <glosoli> "The forEach() method executes a provided function once per array element."
  432. # [23:52] <glosoli> "The map() method creates a new array with the results of calling a provided function on every element in this array."
  433. # [23:53] <king4life> glosoli: Right, very true. Array.map does more than Array.forEach
  434. # [23:54] <king4life> But I think, any instance of Array.forEach could be replaced with Array.map
  435. # [23:54] <king4life> and maintain the same behavior.
  436. # [23:54] <glosoli> I wonder how it would relate to performance when iterating array of thousands of items
  437. # [23:54] <glosoli> and doing some intensive does
  438. # [23:54] <king4life> I could try it in Node right now :)
  439. # [23:55] <glosoli> s/intensive does/intensive tasks
  440. # [23:55] <king4life> Heh, I suppose if "ask" is a noun than so is "do".
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