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  217. # [18:07] <jensimmons> Hey — is there no call today?
  218. # [18:07] <jensimmons> I'm on the call by myself.
  219. # [18:07] <@renoirb> Hi
  220. # [18:07] <@renoirb> that's interresting.
  221. # [18:07] <@renoirb> coming in
  222. # [18:07] <@renoirb> julee, yt
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  226. # [18:16] <@renoirb> https://renoirboulanger.com/styleguide2/
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  229. # [18:27] <@renoirb> http://docs.webplatform.org/test/Tests/Compatibility_table_and_caching
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  236. # [18:35] <@renoirb> https://github.com/webplatform/mdn-compat-importer/blob/master/lib/EntityConverter.js#L9
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  240. # [18:51] <@renoirb> jensimmons: the sites I was working on (some changed since 2011) http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/14808.aspx its not php anymore.
  241. # [18:51] <+jensimmons> nice
  242. # [18:51] <@renoirb> https://montreal.bixi.com/, https://toronto.bixi.com/, https://capitale.bixi.com/
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  244. # [18:52] <@renoirb> montreal is not the same either. But you see that toronto and capitale are the ones i worked on
  245. # [18:52] <@renoirb> with the javascript google map background, etc
  246. # [18:52] <@renoirb> https://capitale.bixi.com/css/city.css
  247. # [18:53] <@renoirb> but they removed my minification over time
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  249. # [18:53] <+jensimmons> do you know that I'm a developer (front-end and Drupal) as well as a designer. I architectured/led the front-end dev on this site: http://home.web.cern.ch (Didn't do any design on that project. Mark Boulton's team already had that covered.)
  250. # [18:54] <+jensimmons> It's funny how we each have had a winding path through this all, picking up a range of skills as we go
  251. # [18:54] <@renoirb> nice site!!
  252. # [18:54] <@renoirb> no i didn't
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  254. # [18:54] <@renoirb> I like drupal, BTW.
  255. # [18:55] <+jensimmons> yeah that was a great project. Freaking CERN! \o/ The team at CERN is so smart and chill. A great group to be a small part of.
  256. # [18:55] <+jensimmons> I like Drupal too
  257. # [18:55] <@renoirb> just that in my reality, as french canadian in north america, we are always asked to do multilingual sites. And the CMSes doesn't support it out of the box, its like an afterthought.
  258. # [18:55] <+jensimmons> oh man, yeah. Drupal is very good at multilinugal
  259. # [18:56] <+jensimmons> very good
  260. # [18:56] <@renoirb> i can imagine, I imagine they are as smart and chill as at W3C.
  261. # [18:56] <@renoirb> Drupal, multilingual. Uhm, i doubt it :)
  262. # [18:56] <+jensimmons> it's also very good at handling user accounts, login, profile pages, etc
  263. # [18:57] <+jensimmons> Drupal is very good at accessibility too. A11y & i18n are huge priorities for Drupal. Nothing gets added to the system unless it works in both.
  264. # [18:57] <@renoirb> Glad to see that the CSS files are still minified after you left
  265. # [18:57] <+jensimmons> ha. yeah...
  266. # [18:58] <+jensimmons> well, that's built into Drupal — minifcation
  267. # [18:58] <@renoirb> Look at that one http://dundee.advisor.ca/
  268. # [18:58] <+jensimmons> although Sass minification is better than Drupals
  269. # [18:58] <+jensimmons> newer
  270. # [18:59] <@renoirb> My opinion: NEVER use the CMS minification.
  271. # [18:59] <@renoirb> Backend work is not the same skill set as frontend and it is counter productive. To my experience.
  272. # [19:01] <@renoirb> dundee is an "iPad" web application. You know, 2011. They wanted to be able to read while offline. Its using localStorage and serializes into json a RSS feed from wordpress. After I left, the marketing agency changed the top banner to use an iframe.... killing the purpose of "offline"
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  275. # [19:05] <@renoirb> Anywyay talking about taste is not very constructive. Thanks for the conversation jensimmons, lets collaborate more.
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  277. # [19:06] <+jensimmons> ugh, it's always disappointing to watch your work degraded after it's shipped. Or before.
  278. # [19:06] <+jensimmons> I'm a big fan of local storage and wish it was used more
  279. # [19:07] <+jensimmons> and yes, let's collaborate more!
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  314. # [21:37] <glosoli> renoirb: "backend work is not the same skill set as frontend and it is counter productive. To my experience." I am not english native, so I am kinda struggling to understand (just got me curious) , what is counter productive in this context
  315. # [21:38] <@renoirb> I'm not native english speaker either, BTW glosoli
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  317. # [21:38] <glosoli> renoirb: (just plain curiosity) what did you mean by counter productive
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  319. # [21:40] <@renoirb> When working on something in a given mode (e.g. Creating HTML/CSS patterns) switching modes from one to another is a waste of time.
  320. # [21:40] <@renoirb> Better say: Let's spend 5 hours coding X component. Even though you know that later down the road you will work on another aspect that you might need now.
  321. # [21:40] <@renoirb> But if you switch from one another adhoc, you have to flip your brain.
  322. # [21:41] <glosoli> aaa I get it now, thanks!
  323. # [21:41] <@renoirb> My girlfriend is studying Ergonomy. I had the chance to be beside her while she watches the replay of her classes.
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  325. # [21:42] <@renoirb> Its part of the theory of mental process management.
  326. # [21:42] <@renoirb> Where are you from glosoli ?
  327. # [21:42] <glosoli> renoirb: Lithuania, and you :)?
  328. # [21:42] <@renoirb> Canada, Québec.
  329. # [21:43] <glosoli> Canada, awesome
  330. # [21:43] <@renoirb> Lithuania, never met anybody from there
  331. # [21:44] <@renoirb> What is your native language
  332. # [21:44] <@renoirb> ?
  333. # [21:45] <glosoli> Lithuanian haha
  334. # [21:46] <glosoli> As for small country we have our own language. Though I am not sure if I am big fan of Lithuanian language
  335. # [21:49] <glosoli> renoirb: How long have you been doing web dev ?
  336. # [21:50] <@renoirb> I started in 1998
  337. # [21:50] <@renoirb> I was chatting on a web based chat room and had fun injecting html tags and styles
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  339. # [21:50] <glosoli> oh nice, have you ever felt like there is some stability in the technologies in use ? I mean I started like two years ago, I am wondering if I am the only one who thinks it's one big mess at the point where it stands
  340. # [21:50] <@renoirb> But professionally, since 2002
  341. # [21:51] <@renoirb> That's because there is so much work to do
  342. # [21:51] * Parts: ink|off|ZNC (~inky@master.qs.biz)
  343. # [21:52] <@renoirb> and that due to spoken language (and technological) barriers, it is hard to map a concept without always being listening and talking around
  344. # [21:52] <@renoirb> I agree.
  345. # [21:53] <@renoirb> You are not the only one to think its a mess, that's what the W3C is doing.
  346. # [21:54] <glosoli> renoirb: which technologies you find yourself using the most ?
  347. # [21:54] <glosoli> like frameworks, editors, other tools
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  350. # [22:03] <@renoirb> I started with PHP 3. I stayed only using that bckend technology for a long time.
  351. # [22:03] <@renoirb> I really spent time learning JavaScript in 2012. Before that, I was only copy-pasting without trying to understand.
  352. # [22:04] <@Garbee> JS is awesome.
  353. # [22:04] <@Garbee> :D
  354. # [22:04] <@Garbee> For the right stuff...
  355. # [22:04] <@Garbee> renoirb: PHP 3?! um, #youOld
  356. # [22:04] <@Garbee> lol
  357. # [22:05] <@renoirb> In terms of PHP, I think that Symfony2 is the best and most serious PHP framework. Fabien Potencier, the author/maintainer of Symfony, is the one who started to put order in PHP for web developers. Before that there was no convention (see: PHP-FIG, and the PSR conventions)
  358. # [22:05] <@renoirb> I was saying lol long time ago
  359. # [22:05] <@renoirb> I was taping music on cassettes
  360. # [22:06] <@Garbee> Really it isn't that long in reality.
  361. # [22:06] <@renoirb> Sure, its like yesterday
  362. # [22:06] <@Garbee> I started with PHP 5.3. :P 5.4 was even out.
  363. # [22:06] * glosoli never did any PHP
  364. # [22:06] <glosoli> I guess I am lucky lol
  365. # [22:06] <@Garbee> Wait, no. 5.3 was it. 5.4 was out a few months after I started learning to code.
  366. # [22:06] <@renoirb> What is your programming language glosoli ?
  367. # [22:06] <@Garbee> well, *really* code. I tried C in high school. Worst mistake ever.
  368. # [22:07] <@Garbee> C is not a starter language.
  369. # [22:07] <@renoirb> I think its good to learn C or C++. But not required to do web. Just very good to improve how you structure your code
  370. # [22:07] <@Garbee> glosoli: People bash PHP all the time. But the fact is every language has its issues. PHP however is dedicated to backwards compatibility. So things are recreated vs just being fixed so older code isn't broken on an update.
  371. # [22:08] <@renoirb> But besides that, glosoli, I always had Linux on my computers. Starting from 2001, never looked back.
  372. # [22:08] <@Garbee> mysql_* functions are now deprecated in PHP. But it will be either PHP 6 or a decade (whichever comes first) before they are actually removed.
  373. # [22:09] <@Garbee> +1 to Linux. Especially doing web dev.
  374. # [22:09] <glosoli> Garbee: My language? Aint no such. I am open minded guy. Basically what I been doing recent years was Java, Python, Clojure, JavaScript, some Objective-C, and couple of other languages which were required to help some folks go through their assignments
  375. # [22:09] <@renoirb> Now I'm using MacOS and Linux. Just that Mac is so polished that I do not need to spend a week or two only to learn which switches in the kernel to be sure I use all the features the laptop has... and not drain the battery too quickly.
  376. # [22:10] <@Garbee> glosoli: Yea, I think I'd die with a strict-typing language like Java. :P
  377. # [22:10] <@renoirb> Nice! I like python very much.
  378. # [22:10] <@renoirb> I'm currently learning it on the side.
  379. # [22:10] <glosoli> Garbee: I barely do any Java now, my company been shifting to Clojure a lot
  380. # [22:11] <@renoirb> Garbee: that's probably why you do not like Symfony2... it encourages (to some extend) to type your code
  381. # [22:11] <@Garbee> I think I'm going to start learning Go once I finish up this new store site.
  382. # [22:11] <@Garbee> renoirb: I don't like Symfony because I haven't truly dug into building something with it. Too busy working on the new store site.
  383. # [22:11] <@Garbee> I plan once it is launched, to rebuilt a mockup in Symfony and see how it goes.
  384. # [22:11] <glosoli> I want to learn soo much, if Only there were 100 hours in a day, I wouldn't feel that dumb then
  385. # [22:12] <@Garbee> Just like I will build a mockup in Go.
  386. # [22:12] <@Garbee> And Python.
  387. # [22:12] <@Garbee> Learn a few languages by building the same kind of system.
  388. # [22:12] <@renoirb> In symphony, when you are in a controller (what takes care of request... to give a response that may or not have templating) you can type the Entity (a naked object that the object relational mapper knows) and hop, you saved 4 lines of code to have access to the DB. ... This is called AOP
  389. # [22:12] <@renoirb> Something that symphony allows very easily
  390. # [22:12] <@Garbee> oh, AOP.
  391. # [22:12] <@Garbee> Sweet.
  392. # [22:13] <@Garbee> Oh well, I gtg.
  393. # [22:13] <@Garbee> See ya'll tomorrow.
  394. # [22:13] <@renoirb> AOP is to provide infrastructure in your code.
  395. # [22:13] <@renoirb> seeya
  396. # [22:13] <@Garbee> Thanks for letting me interject.
  397. # [22:13] <@Garbee> ;)
  398. # [22:13] <@renoirb> np Garbee
  399. # [22:13] <glosoli> good luck Garbee
  400. # [22:16] <@renoirb> So, which language you learned first?
  401. # [22:16] <@renoirb> Do you have formal training glosoli ?
  402. # [22:16] <@renoirb> I dont
  403. # [22:16] <glosoli> renoirb: I have been studying software engineering for 3.5, just got my degree couple months ago
  404. # [22:17] <glosoli> So I suppose I do, though most of the stuff is learnt at home anyway :)
  405. # [22:17] <@renoirb> what is 3.5? years?
  406. # [22:17] <@renoirb> Yeah, but its much quicker than my own.
  407. # [22:17] <glosoli> sorry, yes years
  408. # [22:18] <@renoirb> I mean, before I really decided to understand and dig took many years.
  409. # [22:18] <glosoli> The problem with me, I wasn't that much interested in coding back in the school days ;/
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  412. # [22:22] <@renoirb> And now?
  413. # [22:22] <glosoli> I like it a lot
  414. # [22:22] <@renoirb> I think that the problem with Universities, glosoli, is that they jump right into the deep stuff.
  415. # [22:23] <glosoli> But there is soo much to learn every day, the whole coding thing, got me into having lower self esteem
  416. # [22:23] <@renoirb> You have to learn mathematics, and many other pointy things.
  417. # [22:24] <glosoli> Well I like the variety of things universities require
  418. # [22:24] <glosoli> otherwise it would feel narrow minded experience imo
  419. # [22:24] <@renoirb> Self-esteem issues are very common. I know very few people who never had self-esteem issues.
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  421. # [22:26] <@renoirb> I think its good too. But the problem is that because of the way school are grading, somebody can fail in requisites that, in fact, are not ~~really~~ needed.
  422. # [22:26] <@renoirb> For example, i'm very slow at factoring. Not that I do not know priority of equations, radicals, etc. Just that i'm slow!
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  424. # [22:29] <glosoli> Or you are thinking carefuly
  425. # [22:29] <@renoirb> See, my point :)
  426. # [22:30] <@renoirb> But, seriously, of course we can get quicker at it. I havent' touched mathematics at all for more than 15 years.
  427. # [22:30] <glosoli> That's in my list -> revisiting math knowledge
  428. # [22:31] <@renoirb> How about you apply it to programming. Functionnal programming seems amazing to combine both
  429. # [22:31] <@renoirb> JavaScript tainted my way to program PHP. I want to
  430. # [22:31] <glosoli> renoirb: well, seriously I been doing math related apps in JS for half year or so
  431. # [22:31] <glosoli> Client side calculators for swedish bank :)
  432. # [22:32] <glosoli> Still it gets out of my head after couple months
  433. # [22:32] <@renoirb> you must know more than me then
  434. # [22:32] <@renoirb> I have a friend who is building a system to calculate loans
  435. # [22:32] <@renoirb> Taking into account payments, interests, etc.
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  437. # [22:37] <glosoli> Yeah this one included loan calculations, bunch of mess, they gave me excel spreadsheets with no explanations, and I had to turn it into AngularJS web apps
  438. # [22:37] <glosoli> :)
  439. # [22:37] <glosoli> kinda fun though
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  442. # [22:40] <@renoirb> wow, yeah, that's life.
  443. # [22:41] <@renoirb> Its always like that, actually.
  444. # [22:47] <glosoli> renoirb: so you don't do lots of math stuff in your work ?
  445. # [22:48] <@renoirb> Not much. I'm a self-taught who worked mostly with graphic design agencies to make them have their photoshop/illustrator into websites.
  446. # [22:49] <@renoirb> I always played with Linux, HTML/CSS and building websites in PHP.
  447. # [22:50] <glosoli> renoirb: never even considered other lang that PHP ?
  448. # [22:50] <@renoirb> Sure!
  449. # [22:51] <glosoli> interesting
  450. # [22:51] <@renoirb> In the past i worked in a Java firm building web applications for banks and other larger companies. I participated in elaborating templating tag libs (Struts)
  451. # [22:52] <@renoirb> I enjoy very much JavaScript, and now i'm learning Python.
  452. # [22:53] <@renoirb> Python is quite useful to me because webplatform.org infrastructure has a tool written in python and I have a few ideas that can only be done in python itself.
  453. # [22:54] <glosoli> what kind of tool is it :?
  454. # [22:56] <@renoirb> Its called Salt stack.
  455. # [22:59] <@renoirb> It separates system administration in a set of toolchains: Event reactor (event handlers to react to the changes happening), States (to describe a desired state), Pillar (structure your parameters), Grains (facts about the members), Runners (commands you can create yourself think of combining modules and firing events), and Modules (built-in components)
  456. # [23:00] <@renoirb> Everything js written in text files using YAML syntax. You can loop and fork logic using Jinja templates.
  457. # [23:00] <glosoli> I See, looks like popular tool in PyPi
  458. # [23:00] <glosoli> Damn that YAML lol
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  460. # [23:01] <@renoirb> For example, look at that sls file: https://github.com/SmartReceipt/salt_logstash/blob/master/client.sls
  461. # [23:01] <@renoirb> (sls = state, sorry)
  462. # [23:01] <glosoli> Used YAML within Ansible, had problems with indentation VIM, though works fine in Emacs
  463. # [23:02] <@renoirb> actually sls = is for salt statck. At the top you can say which engine you want, in that file, for example its PyDsl, saltstack's Python DSL language.
  464. # [23:02] <@renoirb> do not indent with tabs.
  465. # [23:02] <@renoirb> that's the only requisite with yaml
  466. # [23:03] <@renoirb> I use two spaces, all the time. Not much longer than one push of TAB
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  469. # [23:03] <glosoli> renoirb: it was not the tabs issue, just vim not adding correct amount of spaces, though that's not a YAML issue either, just me being lazy ;/
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  473. # [23:12] <@frozenice> renoirb: just saw this in the Piwik 2.1.0 changelog from earlier this month: Introduce new User permission: Super User Access (just upgraded our company's Piwik)
  474. # [23:12] <@frozenice> just FYI, seems like there can be multiple superusers now :)
  475. # [23:12] <@renoirb> I know Piwik had a major release, frozenice
  476. # [23:12] <@renoirb> Just did not have time to deploy it.
  477. # [23:13] <@frozenice> that was 2.0 a while back
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