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  1. # Session Start: Wed Apr 02 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #webplatform
  3. # [00:04] <@renoirb> What I mostly is “Authentication accepted from HOSTNAME”
  4. # [00:04] <@renoirb> “Authentication request from HOSTNAME”
  5. # [00:04] <@renoirb> AES payload received with command _minion_event
  6. # [00:04] <@renoirb> Clear payload received with command _auth
  7. # [00:04] <@renoirb> And it happens A LOT!
  8. # [00:04] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane: ^
  9. # [00:04] <@Ryan_Lane> yeah. that's normal
  10. # [00:04] <@Ryan_Lane> every single time the minion polls the master that'll happen
  11. # [00:04] <@renoirb> yeah, I can imagine, its polling if there is progress.
  12. # [00:04] <@renoirb> I’m climbing the log file
  13. # [00:05] <@renoirb> at the moment.
  14. # [00:05] <@renoirb> Great. on top of my screen log
  15. # [00:05] <@renoirb> .
  16. # [00:05] <@renoirb> I’ll try again and pipe it to a file for a minute or two
  17. # [00:05] <@Ryan_Lane> yeah. likely easiest
  18. # [00:06] <@Ryan_Lane> are you running a state.highstate while doing the trace?
  19. # [00:06] <@renoirb> yes
  20. # [00:07] * @Ryan_Lane nods
  21. # [00:08] <@renoirb> Ryan, how can I pipe strace to a file?
  22. # [00:09] <@renoirb> I cannot do `strace -Ff -p 21811 -eread,write > /mnt/salt-master-trace.log 2>&1` it exits
  23. # [00:09] <@Ryan_Lane> -o
  24. # [00:09] <@renoirb> oh!
  25. # [00:09] <@renoirb> oh… sure.
  26. # [00:12] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane: could run a full state with both log files tiled
  27. # [00:12] <@renoirb> s/tiled/tailed/
  28. # [00:14] <@renoirb> Nothing seem abnormal Ryan_Lane
  29. # [00:14] * @renoirb is creating a gist for the log files
  30. # [00:14] * @Ryan_Lane nods
  31. # [00:17] <@renoirb> https://gist.github.com/renoirb/57820e5bc73cca35c137
  32. # [00:17] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane:
  33. # [00:18] <@renoirb> crap
  34. # [00:18] <@renoirb> private keys :/
  35. # [00:18] <@renoirb> deleted.
  36. # [00:18] <@renoirb> I’ll create a new one.
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  38. # [00:27] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: make it a private gist to the webplatform org. I'm also part of that org
  39. # [00:27] <@renoirb> ok
  40. # [00:27] <@Ryan_Lane> I guess volunteers are too, though, right?
  41. # [00:32] <@renoirb> Just sent you the gist url by email.
  42. # [00:32] <@renoirb> I truncated things.
  43. # [00:32] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane: ^
  44. # [00:33] <@Ryan_Lane> hm. nothing abnormal in the strace
  45. # [00:33] <@Ryan_Lane> I wonder if we're missing something by only checking read/write
  46. # [00:33] <@Ryan_Lane> maybe it's just stating every file
  47. # [00:33] <@renoirb> uhm.
  48. # [00:33] <@renoirb> ok
  49. # [00:33] <@Ryan_Lane> am I still able to log into the infra?
  50. # [00:34] <@renoirb> so, with -e(what) ?
  51. # [00:34] <@Ryan_Lane> what bastion do I use?
  52. # [00:34] <@renoirb> yes
  53. # [00:34] <@Ryan_Lane> I can't login from here, but I will look at this when I get home
  54. # [00:34] <@renoirb> we do not have bastion, ‘deployment.webplatform.org’ will work.
  55. # [00:34] <@renoirb> ok.
  56. # [00:34] <@Ryan_Lane> ok. cool
  57. # [00:35] <@Ryan_Lane> did I mention I have a nice pretty web interface for the new deployment system? :)
  58. # [00:35] <@renoirb> thanks!
  59. # [00:35] <@renoirb> Trebuchet?
  60. # [00:35] <@renoirb> I cant wait to have a look at it.
  61. # [00:35] <@Ryan_Lane> it only shows status of deploys, but it's better than nothing :)
  62. # [00:35] <@renoirb> I like the idea of a status page
  63. # [00:36] <@renoirb> Also, to pick your brain on an other issue.
  64. # [00:36] <@Ryan_Lane> sure
  65. # [00:37] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane: what do you recommend for database, replication tools. Have you tried Percona’s replication manager, proxy and etc?
  66. # [00:38] <@Ryan_Lane> wikimedia uses something for this
  67. # [00:38] <@Ryan_Lane> I don't remember what it is
  68. # [00:38] <@Ryan_Lane> proxy is likely unnecessary
  69. # [00:38] <@renoirb> For logging ?
  70. # [00:38] <@Ryan_Lane> proxy would be for logging?
  71. # [00:38] <@renoirb> We had today an increase of DB connection and I could not say from what.
  72. # [00:38] <@Ryan_Lane> I actually don't know databases very well
  73. # [00:39] <@renoirb> Probably because I do not know how to search for that appropriately though.
  74. # [00:39] <@Ryan_Lane> well, you can see what's connected via show processlist \G
  75. # [00:39] <@renoirb> sure.
  76. # [00:39] <@Ryan_Lane> otherwise I don't really know
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  79. # [00:40] <@renoirb> Ok, i’ll have a stab at a PoC for a better database setup someday.
  80. # [00:40] <@Ryan_Lane> cool
  81. # [00:40] <@Ryan_Lane> how's openstack stuff going at dreamhost?
  82. # [00:40] <@Ryan_Lane> will it be ready to use sometime soon?
  83. # [00:41] <@renoirb> Very well!! We have 4 blade bare metal machine. 3 of them are running. one is in need of maintenance, it is currently in read-only mode.
  84. # [00:41] <@Ryan_Lane> right, but that's the temporary hardware they're giving us, right?
  85. # [00:41] <@renoirb> Tonight, my friend who installed it, is coming to fix it with me.
  86. # [00:41] <@Ryan_Lane> s/right//
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  88. # [00:42] <@Ryan_Lane> what about their public cloud that we'd eventually switch to?
  89. # [00:42] <@renoirb> depends of what they are giving us. We still need to be able to use their infrastructure. they are not ready
  90. # [00:42] * @Ryan_Lane nods
  91. # [00:42] <@renoirb> I like very much that setup, its nice to have a vanilla OpenStack cluster. I had this at Ericsson, its so nice.
  92. # [00:42] <@Ryan_Lane> yeah, it's basically like them giving us a private cloud. it's hard to complain about that :)
  93. # [00:43] <@renoirb> yeah.
  94. # [00:43] <@renoirb> Do you have experience with MediaWiki and OAuth?
  95. # [00:43] <@Ryan_Lane> not really.
  96. # [00:43] <@renoirb> ok, nevermind :)
  97. # [00:43] <@Ryan_Lane> it's available in newer versions
  98. # [00:43] <@Ryan_Lane> and it's being used extensively at wikimedia
  99. # [00:43] <@renoirb> Which version should I always track? I do not understand the wmf branches
  100. # [00:44] <@Ryan_Lane> whichever is newest
  101. # [00:44] <@Ryan_Lane> they make a new branch every week or every other week
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  103. # [00:45] <@renoirb> So, any new branch in https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/mediawiki%2Fcore will do?
  104. # [00:45] <@Ryan_Lane> the newest wmf branch
  105. # [00:45] <@renoirb> … is that what they deploy?
  106. # [00:45] <@Ryan_Lane> yep
  107. # [00:45] <@renoirb> it feels like development releases
  108. # [00:45] <@Ryan_Lane> it's what runs wikipedia
  109. # [00:45] <@renoirb> ok.
  110. # [00:45] <@Ryan_Lane> it's the stablest thing you can get
  111. # [00:46] <@Ryan_Lane> except for the stable releases, of course
  112. # [00:46] <@renoirb> ok.
  113. # [00:46] <@Ryan_Lane> but those only occur every 6 months and there's no tracked compatibility with extensions
  114. # [00:46] <@renoirb> Mind If I prepare a sandbox VM and ask you to review if I broke something for an upgrade ?
  115. # [00:46] <@Ryan_Lane> the wmf branches also include all the wmf extensions with compatible versions
  116. # [00:46] <@Ryan_Lane> well, I'm actually not great at reviewing that
  117. # [00:47] <@Ryan_Lane> it's usually best to upgrade test, then let the users have at it
  118. # [00:47] <@renoirb> My sandbox will have a separate database server with a higher version, be on Ubuntu 12.04, and be built from scratch.
  119. # [00:47] <@renoirb> … behind fastly
  120. # [00:47] <@Ryan_Lane> hell, it's almost time to go with 14.04 :)
  121. # [00:47] <@renoirb> ok then Ryan_Lane, ill ask somebody else :)
  122. # [00:47] <@renoirb> I know!!
  123. # [00:48] <@renoirb> can’t wait
  124. # [00:48] <@renoirb> In fact, i’m actually waiting silently for that.
  125. # [00:48] <@Ryan_Lane> heh
  126. # [00:48] <@renoirb> My current focus is to implement OAuth for us.
  127. # [00:48] <@renoirb> To connect the wiki, the annotation service, and Dabblet.
  128. # [00:49] <@Ryan_Lane> ask csteipp, and anomie in #wikimedia-dev
  129. # [00:49] <@renoirb> dabblet doesnt require users, though.
  130. # [00:49] <@renoirb> for oauth?
  131. # [00:49] <@Ryan_Lane> yeah, they wrote it
  132. # [00:49] <@Ryan_Lane> oh, an aaron
  133. # [00:49] <@renoirb> nice!
  134. # [00:49] <@Ryan_Lane> who helped us with other things
  135. # [00:49] <@renoirb> yeah, aaron, ill talk to himn about it
  136. # [00:49] <@Ryan_Lane> in fact, you may be able to contract him again for this
  137. # [00:50] <@renoirb> Oh, nice.
  138. # [00:50] <@renoirb> BTW, I worked on top of Aaron’s work
  139. # [00:50] <@renoirb> Its deployed on http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/
  140. # [00:50] <@renoirb> oops /test/
  141. # [00:51] <@renoirb> i read the new json, generate html, and cache in memcached
  142. # [00:51] <@Ryan_Lane> this is all coming from ESI? http://docs.webplatform.org/test/Tests/Compatibility_table_and_caching
  143. # [00:55] <@renoirb> No, but it still supports it.
  144. # [00:55] <@renoirb> We have to adjust the servers to use it behind fastly
  145. # [00:55] <@renoirb> one of the tweaks are that we need to not gzip between us and fastly
  146. # [00:55] <@renoirb> Its in my todo
  147. # [00:55] <@renoirb> http://docs.webplatform.org/test/Special:Compatables?feature=border-radius&format=table
  148. # [00:55] <@renoirb> and in the end it makes http://docs.webplatform.org/test/Special:Compatables?feature=border-radius&format=table&foresi=1
  149. # [00:55] <@renoirb> that gets surrounded in ESI tags.
  150. # [00:56] <@Ryan_Lane> cool
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  158. # [01:19] <@renoirb> Sorry for the delay, my friend just arrived
  159. # [01:19] <@renoirb> Thanks Ryan_Lane for your time
  160. # [01:19] <@Ryan_Lane> you're welcome
  161. # [01:20] <@renoirb> Do you have anything advertising Trebuchet Ryan_Lane ?
  162. # [01:20] <@renoirb> I’d like to see when I could start deploying it
  163. # [01:20] <@renoirb> and to use gitfs in salt
  164. # [01:21] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: it's in github
  165. # [01:21] <@Ryan_Lane> I haven't finished upstreaming it
  166. # [01:21] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: https://github.com/trebuchet-deploy
  167. # [01:21] <@renoirb> it was in case of whether you had a different place to document it
  168. # [01:21] <@Ryan_Lane> ah
  169. # [01:21] <@Ryan_Lane> I kind of do
  170. # [01:21] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet
  171. # [01:22] <@Ryan_Lane> that's wikimedia specific, though
  172. # [01:22] <@renoirb> you think its possible to deploy?
  173. # [01:23] <@Ryan_Lane> I need to put a little bit of effort into writing the salt modules to install trebuchet
  174. # [01:25] <@Ryan_Lane> but otherwise, yeah, because we use a deployment server
  175. # [01:25] <@Ryan_Lane> if we deployed directly from github it would be hearder
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  179. # [01:34] <@renoirb> I’m working to have everything on github, except the /srv/private
  180. # [01:34] <@renoirb> I might need to create a completely new git repo for /srv/salt though
  181. # [01:34] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane: ^
  182. # [01:37] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: make a private repo
  183. # [01:37] <@Ryan_Lane> put all the private stuff into that
  184. # [01:37] <@Ryan_Lane> ideally in pillars
  185. # [01:37] <@Ryan_Lane> then include both public and private locations in the pillar roots config
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  383. # [18:22] <@frozenice> FYI, I Annotate 2014 is live @ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hypothes-is
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  403. # [19:40] <ravenz> frozenice cool thanks
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