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  209. # [18:40] <theo_> hello
  210. # [18:41] <theo_> just a quick question
  211. # [18:42] <+eliezerb> Hello theo_!
  212. # [18:47] <theo_> Hi I've just joined a few days ago and started (with passion) in editing and reviewing some articles.
  213. # [18:47] <theo_> So far so good
  214. # [18:48] <theo_> But now i'm in a crossroad
  215. # [18:55] <theo_> You see I've scouted the site and it seems that a lot of pages require attention. But on the other hand I don't know if its equally important to try edit for example the indexeddb/IDBCursor page or try to fill in the gaps of SVGs
  216. # [18:57] <theo_> the quiestion is whats more important to contribute right now as it seems that almost everything is flagged with something
  217. # [18:58] <+eliezerb> theo_: It's great to hear that you're interested in SVG
  218. # [18:59] <+eliezerb> We are creating a working group to work on those pages, did you already introduced yourself to the mailing list?
  219. # [19:01] <+eliezerb> theo_: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/
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  221. # [19:02] <+eliezerb> theo_: AmeliaBR did a list with some of the tasks for the SVG pages, have a look: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2014Apr/0116.html
  222. # [19:07] <theo_> yes I've introduced myself although the first time I landed upon the http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday page and started through the Javascript project tasks on the bottom. Later on I realised that that the project has almost been finished.
  223. # [19:08] <theo_> But I'll look at the SVG link though it sounds intresting
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  226. # [19:11] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: for https in the skin, you're using protocol relative links everywhere, right?
  227. # [19:12] <@Ryan_Lane> MW supports protocol relative links for everything, and it's the recommended way of handling both HTTP and HTTPS
  228. # [19:12] <@Ryan_Lane> and will make your life easier if you're working on switching over
  229. # [19:13] <@renoirb> Hi Ryan_Lane, no i've been specific about it to not mix. When its time, its only a matter of search replace.
  230. # [19:13] <@Ryan_Lane> no need for a search replace :)
  231. # [19:13] <@Ryan_Lane> just change http:// links to // links
  232. # [19:13] <@Ryan_Lane> and it'll work like it currently does
  233. # [19:13] <@Ryan_Lane> and it'll work with HTTPS
  234. # [19:13] <@renoirb> What i mean is that there are place where it is hardcoded 'http:', that'll be replaced later on when we have SSL.
  235. # [19:14] <@Ryan_Lane> right, there's no reason not to replace them now with protocol relative links :)
  236. # [19:15] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: http://www.paulirish.com/2010/the-protocol-relative-url/
  237. # [19:15] <@Ryan_Lane> MW has support for defining protocol relative urls in the code, too
  238. # [19:16] <@Ryan_Lane> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.18#Protocol-relative_URLs
  239. # [19:16] <@Ryan_Lane> (http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/27/protocol-relative-urls-enabled-on-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/)
  240. # [19:17] <@Ryan_Lane> all the code that generate links can be called in a way that defines them protocol relative as well
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  242. # [19:20] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane, i'm aware of the protocol relative.
  243. # [19:21] <@Ryan_Lane> so the find/replace is going to be to protocol relative?
  244. # [19:21] <@renoirb> its going to be, but not in my priority list.
  245. # [19:21] <@renoirb> i'm on oauth resource server that works :)
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  247. # [19:22] <+eliezerb> theo_: If you don't mind in answer that thread talking about your interest in help on SVG, it'll be awesome!
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  251. # [19:26] <@renoirb> since you are there Ryan_Lane, how would you recommend deploying SSL on the site in regard with Fastly?
  252. # [19:26] * @renoirb shows to Ryan_Lane my answer to SSL on the site and my current priority http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2014Apr/0115.html
  253. # [19:26] <@renoirb> brb, gotta eat
  254. # [19:27] <theo_> yeah I'm intrested, SVGs are hardcore but cool
  255. # [19:28] <+eliezerb> theo_: In the next couple of days we'll have a lot of cool tasks about that to do :D
  256. # [19:28] <@Ryan_Lane> renoirb: using // won't force everyone to ssl
  257. # [19:28] <@Ryan_Lane> it'll just mean that if people hit either http or https they'll get links and resources from the proper domain
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  259. # [19:28] <@Ryan_Lane> it's the only way to properly do both https and http at the same time
  260. # [19:30] <@Ryan_Lane> we should definitely continue using fastly and can either do ssl termination (which is likely not a great idea, since we transit the WAN), or install ssl on our nodes as well, which is relatively trivial
  261. # [19:30] <@Ryan_Lane> so, yeah, get a wildcard SSL cert and have fastly enable https. then point them to our https servers
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  271. # [19:41] <theo_> Great I'll be in touch. In the meantime I'll read the specification...
  272. # [19:42] <+eliezerb> theo_: Thank you!
  273. # [19:46] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane, i know that using // wont force SSL. I like when things are explicit, even more when vhosts are not equals for http/https
  274. # [19:47] <@renoirb> Having a non ssl resource called from a SSL endpoint is minor compared 404 because resource doesnt exist.
  275. # [19:48] <@renoirb> That's what I thought Ryan_Lane about installing SSL on our servers, have Fastly talk to our backend SSL vhosts, then expose Fastly.
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  277. # [19:50] <@Ryan_Lane> well, I'd start with fastly doing https termination
  278. # [19:50] <@Ryan_Lane> then add https to the backends
  279. # [19:50] <@Ryan_Lane> then change fastly to use https to our backends
  280. # [19:50] <@Ryan_Lane> then disable http on the backends
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  282. # [19:57] <@renoirb> ok, thx Ryan_Lane
  283. # [20:01] <@Ryan_Lane> yw
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  322. # [22:38] <bigblind> Hi
  323. # [22:39] <bigblind> I was wondering, is there a way to access the web platform docs programmatically?
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  329. # [22:55] <julee1> Hi, bigblind!
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  332. # [22:55] <julee1> I would talk with Renoir about the practically of calling the api, but here are some docs to get you started
  333. # [22:55] <julee1> http://docs.webplatform.org/w/api.php
  334. # [22:56] <julee1> Let us know if you've cooked up anything cool
  335. # [22:57] <@frozenice> bigblind: also check out http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:API
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  338. # [22:57] <@renoirb> hi bigblind, sure!
  339. # [22:58] <@renoirb> in fact the brackets editor is using it already
  340. # [22:58] <@renoirb> and the search on top of the pages is calling the api too bigblind
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  351. # [23:38] <@renoirb> Does anybody knows who are those IPs?
  352. # [23:38] <@renoirb> 199.27.72.47
  353. # [23:38] <@renoirb> 199.27.72.58
  354. # [23:38] <@renoirb> 199.27.77.58
  355. # [23:38] <@renoirb> 199.27.77.62
  356. # [23:38] <@renoirb> frozenice ^
  357. # [23:38] <@renoirb> in case its a script you are running
  358. # [23:38] <@renoirb> or eliezerb ^
  359. # [23:39] <@frozenice> Fastly
  360. # [23:39] <@renoirb> tssss.
  361. # [23:40] <+eliezerb> renoirb: nope
  362. # [23:40] <@renoirb> but its 'Apr 30 21:39:10 199.27.77.62 blog[16157]: 200 POST /wp-cron.php?doing_wp_cron=1398893951.5477299690246582031250 MISS cache-at52-ATL'
  363. # [23:40] <@renoirb> sending successively POST to our blog, why that specifically
  364. # [23:41] <@frozenice> because it's from a client?
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  366. # [23:44] <@frozenice> maybe we should use a proper cronjob for WP, instead of the built-in AJAX one
  367. # [23:45] <@renoirb> indeed!
  368. # [23:46] <@renoirb> i'll have a look at it soon frozenice, that makes sense
  369. # [23:46] <@renoirb> i havent thought of that
  370. # [23:46] <@renoirb> anyway we need to optimize wordpress install. It uses only one database server where we could use both.
  371. # [23:46] <@frozenice> can both read and write now?
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