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  159. # [13:10] <@Garbee> Any feedback on this? https://docs.google.com/document/d/17-kv5DM3t69DmpoTGeAQVSlZ2S_NHvQffyp73CX2BKg/edit
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  173. # [15:16] <@renoirb> Garbee, i'd add specifity and maybe introduce a little bit about HTML/CSS architecture
  174. # [15:16] <@renoirb> I dont like to see tutorials that shows div#myWonderfulSpecifcLinkId {}
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  196. # [17:05] <@Garbee> renoirb: Second point for CSS is simple specificity. Not all the details, but enough to get started (links out to more detailed resources like css-tricks for the deeper detail.)
  197. # [17:05] <@Garbee> and yea, element#anything is retarded.
  198. # [17:06] <@Garbee> I'd probably not mention chaining at all though. Since that is not really necessary information. you really just need to know how to target an item or an item that is a child of another item. Sibling selectors, parent selectors, etc. are all a bit more advanced tricks for targeting.
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  201. # [17:16] <@renoirb> I think it should be mentioned. Because otherwise people doesnt get the idea of chaining and creates ids everywhere.
  202. # [17:16] <@renoirb> and then it makes newbie create pages that are too specific.
  203. # [17:17] <@renoirb> We can refer to basic ideas, the media element for example with what Nicole Sullivan showed.
  204. # [17:17] <@renoirb> Garbee ^
  205. # [17:17] <@renoirb> http://www.stubbornella.org/content/2010/06/25/the-media-object-saves-hundreds-of-lines-of-code/ ^
  206. # [17:19] <@renoirb> Also, the key, the first thing anybody who is doing CSS is to learn at least the specifity and selectors.
  207. # [17:19] <@renoirb> I see so many times people googling only to remember how you can .target .class {}
  208. # [17:28] <@renoirb> but they dont get that ul li + li:before {} is so powerful. Instead they show in a CMS how to add markup between list items.
  209. # [17:28] <@renoirb> Instead they could just do like this http://result.dabblet.com/gist/11454174/0cc2bd069af610932255a2dc0c0b420622590fdd
  210. # [17:28] <@renoirb> http://code.webplatform.org/gist/11454174
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  212. # [17:38] <FeatheredSerpent> That's cool renoirb :)
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  217. # [17:48] <@renoirb> Thanks FeatheredSerpent, thought that this sample shows what basics we must know
  218. # [17:48] <@renoirb> http://code.webplatform.org/gist/11454174
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  220. # [17:49] <@renoirb> I'd love to document too :P
  221. # [17:49] <@renoirb> Soon enough
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  243. # [21:24] <+eliezerb> renoirb: Hey! Do you know if there is a channel to talk about Test the Web Forward
  244. # [21:25] <@Garbee> paul_irish: You know anything about that? ^^
  245. # [21:26] <@Garbee> Let's see if the infamous little tike is prowling about.
  246. # [21:27] <+eliezerb> Garbee: thanks!
  247. # [21:27] <@Garbee> I don't think test the web forward has seen much action lately.
  248. # [21:27] <@Garbee> :(
  249. # [21:27] <+eliezerb> Garbee: The Github repo has some recent commits
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