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  47. # [01:31] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane, yt?
  48. # [01:31] <@Ryan_Lane> ?
  49. # [01:31] <@renoirb> Do you have notes somewhere that describes how you make an update of the mediawiki codebase?
  50. # [01:31] <@renoirb> The commands, and the order (a procedure)
  51. # [01:32] <@Ryan_Lane> well, I use the standard upgrade process
  52. # [01:32] <@renoirb> I stumbled upon this @@ from the #wikimedia-operations https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Ftools%2Frelease.git
  53. # [01:32] <@Ryan_Lane> yeah, no. you don't want that
  54. # [01:33] <@Ryan_Lane> you want to basically follow the normal upgrade instructions
  55. # [01:33] <@renoirb> sure, its to make branches and releases
  56. # [01:33] <@Ryan_Lane> that's for making third-party releases
  57. # [01:33] <@renoirb> i do not know what are the normal upgrade instructions. its full of submodules and the hell that comes with it
  58. # [01:33] <@Ryan_Lane> the normal mediawiki update instructions, from mediawiki.org
  59. # [01:33] <@Ryan_Lane> right, so we do use WMF branches
  60. # [01:34] <@Ryan_Lane> make a local branch, tracking the wmf branch
  61. # [01:34] <@Ryan_Lane> then git checkout to the branch
  62. # [01:34] <@renoirb> I described here < https://github.com/webplatform/mediawiki > how to install. but I have no idea how to change from one branch to another without fear of breaking everything
  63. # [01:34] <@Ryan_Lane> I always test on test first
  64. # [01:34] <@Ryan_Lane> also, make a backup of the wiki codebase
  65. # [01:35] <@Ryan_Lane> and do an xml and sql dump
  66. # [01:35] <@Ryan_Lane> after doing a git checkout you need to do: git submodule update --init --recursive
  67. # [01:35] <@Ryan_Lane> then you run the updater
  68. # [01:35] <@Ryan_Lane> then you push the code
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  71. # [01:36] <@Ryan_Lane> you're going to need to deal with SMW
  72. # [01:36] <@Ryan_Lane> which means you'll need to pull in the newest version via composer
  73. # [01:36] <@Ryan_Lane> and check that in locally, I guess
  74. # [01:37] <@renoirb> Yes, that's what I have in mind. But there's always a submodule or two taht decides to fail
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  76. # [01:37] <@renoirb> When I do git checkout -t origin/wmf/1.23wmf17
  77. # [01:37] <@renoirb> for example, it switch branch
  78. # [01:37] <@renoirb> and tracks it automatically, fair enough
  79. # [01:38] <@renoirb> let me try something else
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  82. # [01:42] <@renoirb> do you think its safe to use latest wmf/1.NNwmfNN, Ryan_Lane ?
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  84. # [01:42] <@Ryan_Lane> it should be
  85. # [01:42] <@renoirb> ok
  86. # [01:42] <@Ryan_Lane> you'll want to verify that extensions are compatible
  87. # [01:42] <@renoirb> So, i'm checking out a fresh install of mediawiki like I described on https://github.com/webplatform/mediawiki
  88. # [01:43] <@renoirb> But i want to test the branch switching Ryan_Lane
  89. # [01:43] <@renoirb> ... on a clean, non non-commited code (whatsoever) clone.
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  91. # [01:45] <@renoirb> So, another question I have is how do we manage with our own extensions Ryan_Lane ?
  92. # [01:45] <@Ryan_Lane> we can check them into our local branch
  93. # [01:45] <@Ryan_Lane> as submodules
  94. # [01:46] <@renoirb> ok, as in 'git subomdule add https://..../extensions/Potato extensions/Potato'
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  98. # [01:49] <@renoirb> So, what I dont understand is that when you switch branch, Ryan_Lane, is that sometimes some submodules breaks. I cannot imagine i'm the only one experiencing that.
  99. # [01:49] <@Ryan_Lane> when you switch branches you need to update the submodules....
  100. # [01:49] <@Ryan_Lane> git submodule update --init --recursive
  101. # [01:49] <@Ryan_Lane> also, when you switch branches you need to run the updater
  102. # [01:49] <@Ryan_Lane> after you update the submodules
  103. # [01:49] <@renoirb> yes, but `git submodule `, the update part doenst necessarily remove (git submodule uninit, git submodule rm)
  104. # [01:50] <@Ryan_Lane> yes, git doesn't remove submodules
  105. # [01:50] <@Ryan_Lane> you can delete those yourself
  106. # [01:50] <@renoirb> sure. ok then.
  107. # [01:51] <@renoirb> I guess that what matters is that I have to have all modules that are required in both Settings.php and the wiki/LocalSettings.php's required file (e.g. CurrentSettings.php) right
  108. # [01:51] <@renoirb> Ryan_Lane?
  109. # [01:51] <@Ryan_Lane> or you need to remove extensions that aren't needed anymore
  110. # [01:51] <@renoirb> perfect.
  111. # [01:52] <@renoirb> that makes sense.
  112. # [01:52] <@Ryan_Lane> any extension that got deleted from wikimedia's branch we shouldn't be using
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  169. # [08:49] <wad3g-osx> download the latest ROM (05/02) and the gapps http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rastakat&device=gapps
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  282. # [19:01] <AmeliaBR> Hey there... No Telcon today?
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  285. # [19:02] <AmeliaBR> renoirb or frozenice...?
  286. # [19:02] <eliot> We'll have a short one.
  287. # [19:03] <@renoirb_> yup
  288. # [19:03] <@renoirb_> brb, heating lunch
  289. # [19:03] <AmeliaBR> Thanks... I'm in.
  290. # [19:03] <+eliezerb> AmeliaBR: I'm on IRC
  291. # [19:03] <@renoirb_> AmeliaBR ^ http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2014May/0010.html
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  293. # [19:04] <+eliezerb> If you need some help with Templates, please let me know
  294. # [19:04] <+eliezerb> I saw an Action item signed to me last Telcon
  295. # [19:07] <AmeliaBR> eliezerb: yep, Doug just mentioned that we'd like to get going on that. Not sure about Jen I've been somewhat hectic this week...
  296. # [19:07] <AmeliaBR> No one else is scribing, so I'll keep going:
  297. # [19:08] <+eliezerb> AmeliaBR: Thanks, feel free to talk with me at anytime
  298. # [19:08] <AmeliaBR> shepazu: Talking about colloboration with Pat at MDN about the compatibility table migration.
  299. # [19:08] <AmeliaBR> ...Anyone have ideas about scraping the data more effectively?
  300. # [19:10] <AmeliaBR> ...nothing much happening from other contacts at Mozilla (?)
  301. # [19:10] <AmeliaBR> ...Next item: Renoirb still working on single sign on, maybe ready to start rolling next week.
  302. # [19:11] <AmeliaBR> Elliot: Has got writers at team Microsoft helping review Javascript docs.
  303. # [19:11] <AmeliaBR> Julee: Asks AmeliaBR about SVG plans...
  304. # [19:12] <@renoirb_> I just joined
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  308. # [19:13] <AmeliaBR> AmeliaBR: Not much has happened since email last week, anyone who is interested in getting involved let me know
  309. # [19:13] <AmeliaBR> shepazu: will follow up on SVG this week.
  310. # [19:14] <AmeliaBR> ...Next item: problems with editing site this week, mostly fixed but reference renoirb's email from today on site upgrades
  311. # [19:14] <AmeliaBR> ...testing needed, do we want to be more formal about it?
  312. # [19:14] <AmeliaBR> ...(testing the new, upgraded mediawiki; everyone sitting down together)
  313. # [19:15] <AmeliaBR> shepazu: we should try to roll out the new server next week. Test run tomorrow (Wed) or Friday?
  314. # [19:16] <AmeliaBR> renoirb: sooner the better, many features rely on the newer software.
  315. # [19:16] <AmeliaBR> Julee: can probably put in some testing time tomorrow
  316. # [19:16] <AmeliaBR> ...is it ideal that we all do it at the same time, talking on IRC?
  317. # [19:17] <AmeliaBR> renoirb: ideal feedback via reply to the email on the list
  318. # [19:18] <AmeliaBR> shepazu & Julee: planning to do joint testing 4pm EDT/1pm PDT Wednesday May 7
  319. # [19:18] <AmeliaBR> eliezerb: would you be available?
  320. # [19:18] <AmeliaBR> eliot: busy all wednesday
  321. # [19:19] <+eliezerb> AmeliaBR: I'll be in a Conf :/
  322. # [19:19] <@renoirb> To test is fairly easy. All you have to make sure that /upgrade/ is in the URL
  323. # [19:19] <AmeliaBR> ...but might send some colleagues (eliot)
  324. # [19:19] * @renoirb thanks AmeliaBR for scribing :)
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  326. # [19:20] <@renoirb> shepazu: Its just an upgrade
  327. # [19:20] <AmeliaBR> shepazu: testing is fairly easy, just exploring the site for half to an hour; don't expect any breaking changes
  328. # [19:20] <AmeliaBR> Julee: should have a checklist
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  330. # [19:20] <@renoirb> renoirb: wants to point out: Its only the Ubuntu server version, and MediaWiki. All of which is already running at Wikimedia foundation anyway
  331. # [19:22] <AmeliaBR> shepazu: re checklist either send notes to the email list, or discuss on IRC tomorrow;
  332. # [19:22] <AmeliaBR> renoirb: there is a checklist in original email
  333. # [19:23] <eliot> +1 for Amelia's awesomeness
  334. # [19:23] <AmeliaBR> polling for other agenda items... last chance...
  335. # [19:23] <@renoirb> AmeliaBR++
  336. # [19:24] <AmeliaBR> shepazu: Actions for himself: replay to SVG email; connect with frozenice re scraping of MDN data
  337. # [19:24] <AmeliaBR> replay <->reply
  338. # [19:25] <AmeliaBR> shepazu: apologies for no agenda email; feel free to take over if he ever forgets in the future. Bye!
  339. # [19:25] <AmeliaBR> (meeting ajourned)
  340. # [19:26] <AmeliaBR> ...any additions/corrections to the transcript or should I post to email as is?
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  347. # [19:56] <@renoirb> AmeliaBR, i wanted to show you something regarding CSS.
  348. # [19:56] <@renoirb> Maybe you weren't aware of the practice, I made an example on current and recommended way to create patterns
  349. # [19:56] <@renoirb> http://code.webplatform.org/gist/11454174 ^
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  371. # [22:07] <AmeliaBR> renoirb: sorry, had left the tab open while doing other things.
  372. # [22:07] <AmeliaBR> Not sure which aspect of that example you wanted me to look at?
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