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  102. # [14:26] <emerson> the email address to subscribe to the wpd mail list is public-webplatform-requests@w3.org, correct?
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  105. # [15:01] <@Garbee> emerson: Yup.
  106. # [15:01] <@Garbee> You can click the green link here too: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/
  107. # [15:06] <emerson> Garbee: but I thought w3 lists were -request@w3.org
  108. # [15:06] <emerson> or do both ways work?
  109. # [15:08] <@Garbee> -request is for subscribing. Then you talk on public-webplatform after you subscribe.
  110. # [15:08] <@Garbee> On the first time you message in though to public-webplatform, you will need to confirm that the W3 can archive your emails publicly.
  111. # [15:08] <emerson> oh okay. Just wondering because on the contributer's guide, you have -requests, but the actual mailto link is -request
  112. # [15:09] <emerson> I didn't know if that would cause any confusion or not
  113. # [15:09] <@Garbee> hm, let me check the context of that link real quick.
  114. # [15:09] <@Garbee> But yea, -request is to actually sign up for getting on the list to be sent copies of the lists email.
  115. # [15:10] <@Garbee> Then when you are on the list, you may send an email to it for distribution. If you haven't confirmed public archiving, then your mails will be held up until you confirm it.
  116. # [15:10] <emerson> yea, i signed up for all of them already
  117. # [15:11] <@Garbee> ah, the Contributor's Guide explains the situation already.
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  119. # [15:16] <emerson> but on that guide, you make multiple references to public-webplatform-requests, and if someone would try to email public-webplatform-requests@w3.org, they wouldn't get subscribed
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  121. # [15:38] <@Garbee> The messages you get going through the process were pretty clear last I went through it.
  122. # [15:39] <@Garbee> Because you need to reply to the request in order to actually get subscribed. Then once that is done the system tells you again the address of the list itself.
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  128. # [15:44] <emerson> i don't think I'm explaining this clear enough. On the contributers guide, you have public-webplatform-requests (with an 's' at the end) in a few places. If you try to email public-webplatform-requests@w3.org, you will not be subscribed to the mail list, because you need to email public-webplatform-request@w3.org (without the 's' at the end)
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  130. # [16:08] <@frozenice> emerson: fixed :)
  131. # [16:12] <emerson> frozenice: cool thanks :)
  132. # [16:12] <@frozenice> thank YOU for bringing it up :)
  133. # [16:17] <@Garbee> Oh, typo.
  134. # [16:18] <@frozenice> Garbee: have you read the writing guide I linked?
  135. # [16:18] <@Garbee> frozenice: Yea. Ran through a few grammar checks too.
  136. # [16:18] <@Garbee> http://garbee.github.io/w3fools/ --Should be pull-ready now.
  137. # [16:19] <@Garbee> I head "led" and "lead" mixed up in different places. :P
  138. # [16:19] <@Garbee> among other misc ambiguous things.
  139. # [16:23] <@frozenice> looks good
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  141. # [16:24] <@frozenice> I'd still like simpler language in some places, but I guess it's ok
  142. # [16:25] <@Garbee> Like where?
  143. # [16:25] <@Garbee> My use of exomplary too sophisticated? :P
  144. # [16:25] <@Garbee> exemplary*
  145. # [16:26] <@frozenice> convened, canonical, repercussions
  146. # [16:26] <@renoirb> Hi all
  147. # [16:26] <@frozenice> hi!
  148. # [16:31] <@renoirb> Garbee, frozenice, shepazu, can you guys login to accounts.webplatform.org and change your passwords please :)
  149. # [16:32] <@frozenice> did you clear the wiki sessions? I had to login again there
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  151. # [16:32] <@renoirb> I havent deployed the code i'm working on for the wiki
  152. # [16:33] <@renoirb> But the accounts database is using *only* what we have in production wiki
  153. # [16:33] <@frozenice> "Your account is ready!"
  154. # [16:33] <@renoirb> I have a list of usernames that doesnt have any email address
  155. # [16:34] <@renoirb> we might have to make utilities to update the email field for users later
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  157. # [16:34] <@frozenice> I successfully reset my password and logged in under accounts.*
  158. # [16:34] <@renoirb> Maybe a scope for admins to list users and update fields.
  159. # [16:34] <@renoirb> perfect
  160. # [16:35] <@renoirb> I'm working on the PHP code to handle errors more gracefullyé
  161. # [16:35] <@renoirb> gracefully.
  162. # [16:35] <@renoirb> Because if oauth or profile server is down, it hangs there infinitely and we should put a message instead of hanging
  163. # [16:36] <@frozenice> makes sense
  164. # [16:38] <@Garbee> renoirb: Same account as the wiki was or the test one I made?
  165. # [16:38] <@renoirb> Garbee, you have to use the same email address you have an account with on the production wiki.
  166. # [16:39] <@renoirb> I imported **all** accounts from the production wiki (until ~16h ago). We have a list of username and passwords.
  167. # [16:39] <@renoirb> I mean, each email and address from every entry is converted there.
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  169. # [16:39] <@renoirb> With that you will eventually be able to use that same account on anything that's connected to it.
  170. # [16:40] <@renoirb> For starters, it’ll be any MediaWiki installation we make: test, production, upgrade.
  171. # [16:40] <@renoirb> We might consider completely delete data from the test wiki and start that one from scratch.
  172. # [16:41] <@renoirb> (but with same plugins as production though)
  173. # [16:41] <@Garbee> Ok, just reset my password and logged in.
  174. # [16:41] <@renoirb> ok
  175. # [16:42] <@renoirb> For now, i'm finishing up error handling and saving of the bearer token inside memcache.
  176. # [16:42] <@renoirb> That way, i'll have a passwordless login system for mediawiki, and eventually write some python code to replicate the issue if needs be
  177. # [16:42] <@renoirb> frozenice, do you do python?
  178. # [16:42] <@frozenice> nope
  179. # [16:42] <@renoirb> Neither do I.
  180. # [16:43] <@renoirb> I seen its close to javascript, somehow.
  181. # [16:43] <@renoirb> No {}, but prototypal-ish inheritance.
  182. # [16:44] <@renoirb> The hack I thought is to store to memcache the bearer token in a memcache slot with same TTL than the token and the key would be the username.
  183. # [16:45] <@renoirb> So, since memcache is only accessible by other servers, regardless of what is calling memcache with username key would gain access to the bearer token and be able to make a GET call to profile.accounts.webplatform.org/v1/profile with authorization header and get user data to use —create if needed— and impersonate user with given data.
  184. # [16:46] <@renoirb> If you want to play with that frozenice, you can get a bearer token from 123done GET param after signin in to temporary.webplatform.org
  185. # [16:46] <@renoirb> When you get back after login, you will have a ?temporary=BEARER_TOKEN_STRING
  186. # [16:47] <@renoirb> Then you can do `curl -v -H "Authorization: Bearer BEARER_TOKEN_STRING" https://profile.accounts.webplatform.org/v1/profile`
  187. # [16:48] <@frozenice> uhm yeah, sounds great :)
  188. # [16:51] <@renoirb> You end up with a response body looking like {"email":"bar@foo.org","uid":"himom","fullName":"Renoir Boulanger","username":"Renoirb"}
  189. # [16:52] <@renoirb> that's what I use in MediaWiki to find or create a local user and start a session
  190. # [16:52] <@renoirb> I wished I understood that when I Started learning OAuth :(
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  192. # [16:57] <@shepazu> renoirb, done
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  194. # [17:00] <@shepazu> renoirb, that API doesn't let a random person or app get access to the user data, right?
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  197. # [17:19] <@renoirb> Right shepazu
  198. # [17:19] <@renoirb> It MUST have a bearer token, and the only way to get it is through the process. And the only data it has access, for now, is profile. And profile only allows access to its own data.
  199. # [17:21] <@renoirb> Later we will be able to add a new scope (we currently only have "profile" like said), and that new scope could do more. But we would allow that new scope only to some people.
  200. # [17:21] <@renoirb> But this is yet to be done.
  201. # [17:22] <@renoirb> The hardest part was to understand how all this is working, and set it in place. frozenice, me and anybody else who can do NodeJS will be able to add features to that.
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  203. # [17:23] <@renoirb> Hi vanessametonini
  204. # [17:29] <vanessametonini> hi renoirb! :)
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  224. # [19:38] <@Garbee> I wonder in what ways we could visualize the triggering of DOM events.
  225. # [19:38] <@Garbee> Like the phases of a keypress or touch/click.
  226. # [19:39] <@Garbee> I mean, they are basically simple flowcharts.
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  228. # [19:53] <@Garbee> Anyone know what JS pages need looking over? brbcoding needs some pointing.
  229. # [19:53] <brbcoding> aw thanks
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  234. # [21:39] <@Garbee> renoirb: Is the account system switch-aroo going on possibly causing me to not be able to save new stuff on dabblet?
  235. # [21:40] <@renoirb> they aren’t related
  236. # [21:40] <@renoirb> Garbee, explain what you do.
  237. # [21:41] <@Garbee> I just opened up code.webplatform.org, was working on a demo. Went to save but it was grayed out. In some disabled state.
  238. # [21:41] <@Garbee> Then stupidly I went, well, this is a new thing, let me see if new saves it. Nope, completely not comprehending the alert until after I pressed OK I just lost the 8 minutes I spent building and commenting an example. :(
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