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  56. # [05:15] <Hixie> wow, i just specced popup blocking without using the word "popup" or "blocking".
  57. # [05:15] <Hixie> didn't even realise it until i was done
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  60. # [05:36] <jdandrea> Hixie: How'd you pull that one off? Nice.
  61. # [05:37] <Hixie> last bit of http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-windows.html
  62. # [05:37] <jdandrea> Thx
  63. # [05:38] <jdandrea> I find that choosing good words/names/etc. is one of the hardest (and most important) things you can do, hence my interest. Reading ...
  64. # [05:39] <Hixie> no guarentee the words are well chosen!
  65. # [05:39] <jdandrea> 's OK. It's a start.
  66. # [05:39] <Hixie> it's about iteration 50 of this particular section
  67. # [05:39] <Hixie> i keep rewriting it to make it better
  68. # [05:40] <Hixie> still not overly happy with it
  69. # [05:40] <Hixie> but it'll do for now
  70. # [06:00] * mpt is unfortunately reminded of the checkbox label "Let Web pages ... [/] Open new windows by themselves"
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  72. # [06:01] <mpt> Quite possibly the least understandable interface design I ever perpetrated
  73. # [06:02] <mpt> Hixie, "auxillary" -> "auxiliary"
  74. # [06:03] <jdandrea> In 4.1.2 - ah.
  75. # [06:03] <jdandrea> I'm just about to get to the good stuff. :)
  76. # [06:11] <jdandrea> Hixie: Nice. As for the wording, it's consistent with the rest of 4.1.3 rule 5. I like the use of auxiliary as well.
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  81. # [06:33] <Hixie> mpt: thanks, will try to remember to fix that
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  87. # [06:58] * annevk wonders if it's ok to give the same presentation, albeit modified, twice
  88. # [06:59] <othermaciej> if in different venues, sure
  89. # [07:00] <annevk> I'd like to make the one I just gave public
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  91. # [07:00] <annevk> oh well, I'll just do it
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  93. # [07:08] <annevk> FYI: http://www.w3.org/mid/op.tqwwnwan64w2qv@id-c0020 (presentation on HTML5 I gave today at QUT)
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  96. # [08:10] <othermaciej> every time I've spoken in person to one or more Microsoft employees I ended up with a headache
  97. # [08:10] <othermaciej> I wonder if there is a pattern there
  98. # [08:10] <Hixie> really?
  99. # [08:11] <othermaciej> well, it's only a sample space of 3
  100. # [08:11] <Hixie> do you get headaches often unrelatd to meeting microsoft employees?
  101. # [08:12] <othermaciej> sometimes, but not that often
  102. # [08:14] <Hixie> my recommendation: get more data
  103. # [08:14] <othermaciej> I'm not sure its worth it for the information value alone
  104. # [08:15] <othermaciej> *it's
  105. # [08:22] <annevk> I never had a headache before in relation to Microsoft employees
  106. # [08:23] <othermaciej> I think I might be allergic to Microsoft
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  121. # [10:37] <KevinMarks> yay, my t-shirt came
  122. # [10:37] <KevinMarks> http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=108788
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  128. # [12:20] <nickshanks> "5 > 2" ?
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  133. # [12:30] <hsivonen> wow. a SEO spammer or SEO spammers have picked up liorean's future of the web article and Google is happily informing me about all the bogus blogs that contain a copy of the article
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  136. # [12:43] <Hixie> hsivonen: which query?
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  138. # [13:02] <hsivonen> Hixie: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch_feeds?hl=en&q=link:blog.whatwg.org&filter=0&ie=utf-8&num=10&output=atom
  139. # [13:02] <Hixie> thanks
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  152. # [15:49] <krijnh> Anybody in here know a way to style active links in Opera?
  153. # [15:50] <krijnh> Active in the way you navigate to them with Shift + Arrows
  154. # [15:51] <krijnh> :focus only works when you hover an active anchor
  155. # [15:52] <citoyen> Theoretically :focus, though the styling is hidden by the selected text
  156. # [15:52] * zcorpan got his t-shirt today
  157. # [15:52] <krijnh> citoyen: It works with an outline, but only once you hover the selected element
  158. # [15:53] <citoyen> Yeah, known
  159. # [15:53] <krijnh> K
  160. # [15:58] <krijnh> zcorpan: congrats btw ;)
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  165. # [16:38] <Dashiva> Hixie: What's the reasoning for the void Table.delete* methods, rather than (e.g.) Table.remove* which return the removed element?
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  167. # [16:43] <zcorpan_> krijnh: thanks
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  181. # [18:58] <zcorpan_> http://shadow2531.com/opera/testcases/mht/000.mht the background doesn't cover the canvas in opera
  182. # [18:59] <zcorpan_> should it?
  183. # [19:08] <hasather> zcorpan_: yea, that looks like a bug
  184. # [19:09] * zcorpan_ won't report it, though
  185. # [19:11] <zcorpan_> what's with people wanting to change element names?
  186. # [19:11] * zcorpan_ hates naming
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  188. # [19:18] <Philip`> The background appears to cover the canvas of the document which it's the background of - but that document is in an <object> inside the page that's actually being displayed, and the object doesn't fill that page
  189. # [19:20] <hasather> Philip`: ahh, you're right, didn't check that
  190. # [19:21] <zcorpan_> so that you can have multiple html pages after each other?
  191. # [19:23] <zcorpan_> makes sense
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