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- # [00:40] <gsnedders> annevk: we're not evil? oh.
- # [00:40] <gsnedders> annevk: time for me to find a now WG, then :P
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- # [05:02] <mpt> annevk, perhaps the problem is that whatwg.org says "Membership is by invitation only, and consists of a number of representatives from various browser manufacturers."
- # [05:05] <mpt> That's trivially untrue (Dean Edwards isn't a representative of a browser manufacturer), and seems to foreclose the possibility of extending membership to (say) a Web accessibility expert.
- # [05:20] <mpt> I'll e-mail the list to that effect
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- # [10:42] <annevk> mpt, cool
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- # [12:12] <Jero> in the before head insertion mode ( http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-tree-construction.html#before2 ), wouldn't it be better to combine the 4th, 5th and 7th cases?
- # [12:13] <Jero> they all require the same steps to be taken
- # [12:14] <annevk> -> whatwg@whatwg.org
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- # [15:07] <annevk> I think we should rename WHATWG members to WHATWG Advisory Board or something
- # [15:20] <MikeSmith> which WHATWG members would those be? ... I mean, if somebody where to subscribe to the WHATG mailing list today, would that make that person a WHATWG member?
- # [15:24] <Dashiva> Think it's the steering commitee
- # [15:28] <annevk> MikeSmith, that makes them a contributor
- # [15:30] <MikeSmith> annevk - I see ... even if they've never actually contributed anything?
- # [15:30] <MikeSmith> ... and is there a list of the actual members (steering committee) anywhere?
- # [15:30] <annevk> see http://www.whatwg.org/charter
- # [15:30] <annevk> (bottom)
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- # [15:34] <MikeSmith> wonder why hsivonen's never been invited to be a member
- # [15:34] <mpt> annevk, +1
- # [15:34] * mpt hopes he's allowed to do that on IRC
- # [15:36] <annevk> MikeSmith, the only purpose of being member is to be able to revoke the editor from his rights...
- # [15:36] <annevk> MikeSmith, if that's ever necessary we have some real issues...
- # [15:37] <MikeSmith> annevk - I see (and notice you're not a "member" either ...)
- # [15:37] <MikeSmith> does seem like that list of people should be titled something other than Member
- # [15:38] <MikeSmith> given that key contributors aren't in the list
- # [15:39] <annevk> yeah, the term is used in a potentially confusing way
- # [15:45] * MikeSmith just now notices that on Planet Intertwingly that if you hover over a blogger name in the right-hand list of feeds, it shows you titles of latest entries for that blog
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- # [19:11] <annevk> XML5 tokenizer.py is 1300 lines...
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- # [23:05] * kingryan is working on html5lib
- # [23:05] <kingryan> anyone know the best place to get 'chardet' for python?
- # [23:08] <Lachy> kingryan, http://chardet.feedparser.org/
- # [23:08] <kingryan> Lachy: thanks
- # [23:09] <kingryan> the svn trunk of the python impl also appears to have syntax errors
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- # [23:22] <annevk> really?
- # [23:23] <kingryan> yeah, only if you don't have simplejson installed, though
- # [23:23] <kingryan> otherwise you'll never encounter it
- # [23:23] <kingryan> http://code.google.com/p/html5lib/issues/detail?id=40
- # [23:24] <annevk> oh ok
- # [23:28] <kingryan> installing simplejson made the error go away, but I figured it was worth it to record the issue still
- # [23:32] <annevk> I suppose we could make the tests that rely on that optional...
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