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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jun 08 00:00:00 2007
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  3. # [00:00] <chiptmatt> Although I'm a little unsure about where to start helping out
  4. # [00:01] <zcorpan_> chiptmatt: work out exactly how browsers implement the table model
  5. # [00:14] <chiptmatt> No problem! I'll get right on that
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  25. # [02:18] <zcorpan_> http://wcagsamurai.org/ errata now published
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  59. # [09:16] <annevk> geez
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  61. # [09:27] <annevk> (the geez was in reply to the responses to my CRLF post)
  62. # [09:27] <annevk> http://www.css3.info/pulling-back-the-curtain-opening-up-the-css-working-group/
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  66. # [09:32] <annevk> awesome, the google suggest code actually works :)
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  68. # [09:33] * annevk gave a presentation at Opera yesterday and then someone went ahead and scripted a back end
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  70. # [09:39] <zcorpan> annevk: pointer?
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  74. # [10:22] <annevk> zcorpan, http://simon.html5.org/sandbox/html/suggest/ ;)
  75. # [10:22] <zcorpan> annevk: ah, thanks :)
  76. # [10:23] <annevk> you should probably change it slightly to include a doctype :)
  77. # [10:23] <zcorpan> why?
  78. # [10:23] <annevk> to make it validate?
  79. # [10:23] <annevk> guess it doesn't really matter
  80. # [10:24] <zcorpan> wouldn't validate even with a doctype
  81. # [10:24] <annevk> hmm fair enough
  82. # [10:26] <Fuzzy76> annevk: To avoid quirks mode. Without a doctype, browsers will think your site is coded for Netscape 4 type parsing and will differ wildly from the standard when interpreting your site.
  83. # [10:26] <Fuzzy76> (and differ from eachother as well)
  84. # [10:26] <zcorpan> parsing doesn't differ wildly
  85. # [10:26] <krijn> Wow, what's this quirks mode thing?
  86. # [10:27] <Fuzzy76> zcorpan: No, but interpreting and rendering does.
  87. # [10:27] <Fuzzy76> ouch
  88. # [10:27] <annevk> Fuzzy76, rendering is slightly different, yes
  89. # [10:27] * annevk works for a browser vendor...
  90. # [10:27] <Fuzzy76> I suddenly realized what channel I'm in. :) I would presume people in _here_ knows what quirks mode is. :-$
  91. # [10:27] <annevk> we do
  92. # [10:27] <krijn> :)
  93. # [10:27] * Fuzzy76 removes his foot from his mouth ;)
  94. # [10:28] <Fuzzy76> I hang around in a couple of web-related channels where the general knowledge is a bit lower. :p
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  96. # [10:42] <zcorpan> "HTML 5 can and will do whatever idea pops into anyone's head. I hope the CSS working group can be a bit more discerning!" -- http://www.w3.org/mid/46683D8C.40609@textmatters.com
  97. # [10:46] <annevk> ...
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  99. # [11:10] * mpt tries not to let the <crash/> element pop into his head
  100. # [11:16] <annevk> it implies <body>, so you should be fine
  101. # [11:17] <annevk> although...
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  108. # [11:35] * hsivonen doesn't like the idea that HTML WG members have to review mobileOk to avoid random third parties implying all-encompassing W3C endorsement
  109. # [11:36] <hsivonen> "a simple and largely hypothetical mobile user agent" yeah, right
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  121. # [13:17] <drcode> hi all
  122. # [13:17] <drcode> any one can help me with xpath?
  123. # [13:17] <annevk> wrong channel really
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  135. # [16:07] <annevk> hsivonen, JavaScript \r\n becomes \n
  136. # [16:07] * annevk wonders why XML does not normalize character references
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  143. # [16:45] <annevk> http://dutchcelt.nl/weblog/comments/html_working_group/ :)
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  146. # [16:59] <krijn> Yeah, he's blogging again :)
  147. # [17:00] <krijn> Weird his feed doesn't work anymore
  148. # [17:01] <annevk> I had some issues with commenting
  149. # [17:01] <annevk> Guess it's still in the works
  150. # [17:03] <krijn> Grmbl, he deleted my blog from his links ;+
  151. # [17:03] <krijn> So that's what you get when you give 410 responses :)
  152. # [17:04] <krijn> Ow, wait
  153. # [17:04] <annevk> it's still there...
  154. # [17:04] <krijn> That's the "Ow, wait" part ;)
  155. # [17:06] <krijn> Comment spammers kept hitting me btw, even though I sent 410 headers
  156. # [17:06] <annevk> spammers don't have standards
  157. # [17:07] <krijn> They do follow 301's and 302's though :)
  158. # [17:07] <annevk> I didn't say they were stupid :)
  159. # [17:07] <krijn> Location: http://fuck.you/
  160. # [17:07] <annevk> although, arguably
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  163. # [17:14] <krijn> "If you don't want to receive this spam email me at abuse@cool-r.info with url of your site. Thanks."
  164. # [17:14] <krijn> :D
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  178. # [19:11] <Philip`> http://metavid.ucsc.edu/blog/2007/06/07/html5-video-the-future-is-now/ - <video> seems to be inspiring work from quite a few people
  179. # [19:17] <maikmerten> oh, yes, <video> is pretty fancy
  180. # [19:17] <maikmerten> too bad http://metavid.ucsc.edu/wiki_dev/mv_embed/sample_page.php bombs out for me with a JavaScript error
  181. # [19:17] * maikmerten reports
  182. # [19:18] <maikmerten> hmm... according to their page they should be in #metavid
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  184. # [19:19] <maikmerten> currently I don't see any of the metavid regulars in #annodex or #theora, so I'll just wait
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The end :)