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  5. # [15:49] * Topic is 'WHATWG (HTML5) -- http://www.whatwg.org/ -- Logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ -- Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!'
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  55. # [20:03] <zcorpan> http://simon.html5.org/tools/js/designmode-viewer/
  56. # [20:06] <zcorpan> Hixie: yt?
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  58. # [20:07] <Hixie> yep
  59. # [20:07] <Hixie> wassup?
  60. # [20:10] <zcorpan> Hixie: what tool do i use to make a ToC and xrefs in the ARIA draft?
  61. # [20:11] <Hixie> i use the css postprocessor
  62. # [20:11] <Hixie> if that's what you're asking
  63. # [20:11] <zcorpan> yeah
  64. # [20:11] <zcorpan> pointer?
  65. # [20:11] <Hixie> http://www.w3.org/Style/Group/css3-src/bin/postprocess
  66. # [20:12] <zcorpan> thanks
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  68. # [20:12] <Hixie> wow, this has to be the most tedious input device ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENkjkIypXq4
  69. # [20:12] <Hixie> that's amazing.
  70. # [20:15] <Hixie> what's interesting about these videos is that they're disabilities adressed by input devices, and the alt/longdesc/summary/headers arguments don't even remotely affect them
  71. # [20:17] <virtuelv> amazing is the word
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  79. # [20:31] <zcorpan> http://simon.html5.org/specs/aria-proposal now has a toc and xrefs :)
  80. # [20:34] * Hixie shudders at "A role as defined in WAI-ARIA Roles or XHTML Role Attribute Module."
  81. # [20:34] <Hixie> please define the ua requirements for everything in this spec..
  82. # [20:34] * gsnedders points at his watch as a conformant UA
  83. # [20:35] <zcorpan> Hixie: yeah, in due course
  84. # [20:36] <Hixie> btw when you have multiple class=notes next to each other, especially if they refer to each other, you might consider a div class=note with three paragraphs
  85. # [20:36] <Hixie> because the way the stylesheet works, the class=note introduces a Note: prefix which makes the paragraphs sound very unrelated
  86. # [20:36] <Hixie> wtf is a curie
  87. # [20:36] <Hixie> is it a qname?
  88. # [20:37] <zcorpan> not quite
  89. # [20:37] <takkaria> why did someone call it a curie, too? every time I see it, I think physics first off
  90. # [20:37] <zcorpan> didn't you ask that a few days ago also? :)
  91. # [20:37] <Dashiva> It's a c(razy) uri e(xpression)
  92. # [20:38] <Hixie> zcorpan: didn't make sense to me then, doesn't make sense to me now
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  94. # [20:39] <zcorpan> Hixie: doesn't make sense to me, either
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  96. # [20:39] <Hixie> 2.2 doesn't seem to be updated to handle curies
  97. # [20:39] <Hixie> (ua reqs)
  98. # [20:40] <Hixie> are there _examples_ of these curie things?
  99. # [20:40] <zcorpan> it's not intended to handle curies
  100. # [20:40] <Hixie> ah ok
  101. # [20:40] <Hixie> then it needs to be made clearer
  102. # [20:40] <Hixie> cos right now it's unclear what a "supported custom role" is
  103. # [20:40] <Hixie> or whether "A role as defined in WAI-ARIA Roles or XHTML Role Attribute Module" can be a curie
  104. # [20:41] <Hixie> basically your spec right now is a little confused cos it sometimes gives descriptions at the level of syntactic details and sometimes just refers to other specs
  105. # [20:41] <Hixie> i recommend just doing everything at the syntax level and having notes that say "and this is a curie, see spec thisorthat"
  106. # [20:41] <Hixie> so that you don't have to read a bazillion specs to implement your spec
  107. # [20:42] <zcorpan> ok
  108. # [20:42] <Hixie> i'm really glad you're working on this spec though
  109. # [20:43] <Hixie> since it seems we're stuck with having role= in our life, i'm glad at least we'll have a well-defined spec
  110. # [20:43] <Hixie> are you sending last call comments on it?
  111. # [20:43] <Hixie> the role lc?
  112. # [20:43] <zcorpan> thanks for the feedback, i'll look into it later
  113. # [20:43] <zcorpan> i haven't
  114. # [20:43] <zcorpan> i guess i could
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  116. # [20:47] <Hixie> please do
  117. # [20:47] <Hixie> i considered it but i had literally zero ua conformance criteria and i didn't know where to start
  118. # [20:47] <Hixie> you are far more knowledgable in this space
  119. # [20:48] <zcorpan> i guess :)
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  146. # [23:44] <jgraham> Is it specified anywhere what to do if the <meta parsing algorithm returns UTF-16 but there is no BOM (or, I suppose, more generally if it detects any encoding that does not have enough codepoints in common with ascii for the algorithm to both work and return the real encoding?)
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