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  1. # Session Start: Sat Nov 24 00:00:01 2007
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  3. # [00:07] <jgraham_> gsnedders: I fixed the svn:externals
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  16. # [01:13] <Hixie> ok well we now have pdf versions of the spec available
  17. # [01:13] <Hixie> there are some issues with prince and implied elements, but oh well
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  19. # [01:32] <MikeSmith> Hixie - the PDF links are currently just in the version at the WHATWG site?
  20. # [01:40] <Hixie> yeah
  21. # [01:40] <Hixie> it's enough work getting it working for the whatwg one without worrying about the w3c one too :-)
  22. # [01:43] <annevk> hopefully this encourages mikeday to make a C version of html5lib
  23. # [01:45] <annevk> whoa, the PDF is 3.4MB
  24. # [01:47] <Lachy> 3.4MB seems reasonable given that the HTML version is about 2MB
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  36. # [03:23] <MikeSmith> PDFs I generate from Prince even for small docs seem to end up around 600KB or more
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  47. # [06:09] <Hixie> i love the type of comments lachlan has gotten
  48. # [06:09] <Hixie> they applaud his initiative, and then say he should do something else
  49. # [06:09] <Hixie> without actually DOING it
  50. # [06:22] <MikeSmith> heh
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  52. # [06:23] <MikeSmith> Well, I guess we need to figure out a way to facilitate collaboration on the document
  53. # [06:24] <MikeSmith> Lachy - you around?
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  55. # [06:35] <MikeSmith> There is at least one person, Terry Morris, who's asked how he can help out
  56. # [06:37] <MikeSmith> Maybe for now I should suggest that he submit his edits/changes to the current version
  57. # [06:37] <MikeSmith> I suppose somebody will suggest soon that we need yet another mailing list for this
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  59. # [08:31] <hsivonen> Hixie: the pdf looks good. thank you
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  61. # [08:43] <Hixie> hsivonen: my pleasure. thanks for the help.
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  72. # [11:40] <Lachy> MikeSmith, yo!
  73. # [11:42] <MikeSmith> Lachy - just wanted to point out message from Terry Morris offering to help on authors doc
  74. # [11:42] <MikeSmith> I guess I could set him or anybody else up with ssh/cvs access to the source
  75. # [11:42] <MikeSmith> but would rather not unless/until
  76. # [11:43] <MikeSmith> they have actually produced something they want to contribute
  77. # [11:44] <MikeSmith> anyway, see my reply to him on public-html
  78. # [11:44] <Lachy> I've been thinking about how to manage people's contributions a bit too
  79. # [11:44] <MikeSmith> I guess it's not worth spending too much time thinking about until there are some actual contributions from others
  80. # [11:45] <Lachy> I think the best way would be to set up a wiki page somewhere where people can write their suggestions
  81. # [11:46] <Lachy> I'd rather not just let anyone be co-editor with CVS access. I think it's worth waiting to find out how good their contributions are first.
  82. # [11:46] <MikeSmith> aye
  83. # [11:47] <Lachy> I know nothing about Terry Morris. What's his background, experience, past contributions, etc? So let's test people out on the wiki first
  84. # [11:49] <MikeSmith> Right. For this kind of stuff I don't know what's the best way to encourage people to contribute.
  85. # [11:49] <MikeSmith> On code projects, I think it's normal to just ask people to contribute patches
  86. # [11:50] <MikeSmith> and if/when they've contributed enough to merit it, give them shared write access to the source
  87. # [11:51] <Lachy> yeah, but code is different. For articles, there's the issue of writing style, consistency and other measures of quality that can't be tested programmatically
  88. # [11:51] <MikeSmith> true that
  89. # [11:52] <Lachy> if there's anyone with actual spec/article/tutorial writing experience who's also had real web development experience, it might be good to make them co-editor
  90. # [11:53] <MikeSmith> Yeah
  91. # [11:54] <Lachy> I wanted Roger Johansson to be a co-editor, but he said doesn't have time unfortunately
  92. # [11:55] <MikeSmith> Anyway, I leave it up to you how you want to manage it. If anybody's not happy with what you decide, we can deal with it then. or they are always free to take initiative on developing an alternative version if they want
  93. # [11:56] <MikeSmith> bbl, gotta eat dinner
  94. # [11:56] <Lachy> ok, cya
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  101. # [13:45] <MikeSmith> Lachy - fwiw, I checked in a makefile to dev.w3.org/html5 and added some makefiles in the html-authors subdir and some other subdirs that include it by reference
  102. # [13:46] <MikeSmith> so you can just run "make" to build if you want, or "make PUBDATE=2007-11-26" (or whatever) if you want to use a date other than the current one
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  104. # [13:53] <Lachy> MikeSmith, cool. That won't be at all useful on my windows machine where I do my editing, but it could work if I migrated that to my mac
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  107. # [13:58] <MikeSmith> Lachy - make works on Windows too I think
  108. # [14:00] <Philip`> Should work with Cygwin at least
  109. # [14:01] <MikeSmith> yeah, but I think there's even GNU make that runs under MS-DOS
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