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  1. # Session Start: Sat Dec 08 00:00:00 2007
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  6. # [00:45] <Hixie> hsivonen: yeah... patches welcome :-) not sure how to do that
  7. # [01:08] <bradee-oh> Hixie++ (for multipage being back up)
  8. # [01:08] <Hixie> heh
  9. # [01:08] <Hixie> i didn't realise the multipage page had a hardcoded reference to the script at the end of the spec
  10. # [01:08] <Hixie> so when i removed it...
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  23. # [01:55] <Hixie> anyone heard of http://www.digistan.org/ ?
  24. # [01:55] <hober> nop
  25. # [01:56] <hober> *nope
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  31. # [03:34] <Hixie> i wonder how to show the scope
  32. # [03:35] <Hixie> the scope of one of these annotations is from the header it's attached to, to either the next annotation or the next header of the same rank, whichever comes first
  33. # [03:48] <Philip`> Like some kind of vertical line in the margin extending to the end of the scope?
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  46. # [06:18] <Hixie> Philip`: yeah, can't see how to do that without moving nodes around (which would mess up the code that works out what header to use)
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  74. # [15:14] <Philip`> Bah, Links doesn't support <xmp>
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  77. # [16:43] <inimino> Hixie: the link from the multi-page version to index-diff is a 404
  78. # [16:47] * anne-mac wonders why the multipage version has a separate status.js
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  81. # [16:59] <Philip`> Hixie: The opacity:0.05 on NONE status icons seems a bit low - on my screen I can't even see there's an icon there, unless I change my viewing angle so the screen colours get all distorted and then I can make out the shapes
  82. # [16:59] <Philip`> 0.1 is a bit too faint too; 0.2 appears to work best for me
  83. # [17:00] <Philip`> Oh, then it conflicts with the "not fully supported" state
  84. # [17:03] <Philip`> I suppose the 0.05 is actually visible if I move my head low enough, so maybe it's just my screen's fault
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  97. # [18:26] * gsnedders wonders why there is a login box on the spec now
  98. # [18:26] <Dashiva> annotations
  99. # [18:27] <gsnedders> ah.
  100. # [18:42] <Lachy> I can't figure out how the annotations thing works. I registered an account, but there doesn't seem to be anything else in the document for adding annotations.
  101. # [18:43] <krijnh> I get status .
  102. # [18:43] <Dashiva> Check your error console? :)
  103. # [18:44] <krijnh> Ah, cool
  104. # [18:45] <Philip`> Lachy: Double click on the annotation boxes to edit, or double click somewhere else to add new annotations
  105. # [18:45] <krijnh> Lachy: double cli..
  106. # [18:45] * krijnh slaps Philip` with a trout
  107. # [18:45] <Dashiva> Is it the same login as the issues list?
  108. # [18:45] * Philip` wins
  109. # [18:45] <krijnh> :)
  110. # [18:49] <Lachy> Dashiva, I don't think so. The issues list login uses email address, this uses a username
  111. # [18:51] <gsnedders> Forums/blog login works
  112. # [18:53] <gsnedders> (not sure which)
  113. # [18:53] <Dashiva> My forum blog didn't. Probably blog then.
  114. # [18:53] <krijnh> Can we all put our own links to demos in there?
  115. # [18:53] <gsnedders> You don't seem to be able to annotate something which is just marked as a "section"
  116. # [18:56] <Lachy> we're probably going to get complaints about accessibility of the annotation script, since it seems impossible to add an annotation without double clicking
  117. # [18:56] <krijnh> Nah, can't think of anyone who would :)
  118. # [18:57] <annevk> if it's blog login then I've access to the blog now
  119. # [18:58] <Lachy> if it's the blog login, then I just registered a new account with the same username
  120. # [18:58] <krijnh> ERROR: Invalid username.
  121. # [18:58] <krijnh> Prolly not the same thing then
  122. # [18:58] <gsnedders> Very odd. I just used the login I've used elsewhere on the WHATWG site.
  123. # [18:59] <Lachy> I doubt Hixie would be messing around with the username table in the wordpress database
  124. # [18:59] <Dashiva> gsnedders: Maybe you were pre-added as a test
  125. # [18:59] * gsnedders blames Hixie
  126. # [18:59] <krijnh> Are there any guidelines on annotating somewhere?
  127. # [19:01] <krijnh> Or should everybody just randomly add stuff everywhere?
  128. # [19:01] <Dashiva> krijnh: let me fetch the quote
  129. # [19:01] <Dashiva> <Hixie> Philip`: i think having it non-intuitive is ok, the people who should be editing it can be told what the ui is
  130. # [19:02] <krijnh> Ah
  131. # [19:02] <krijnh> I probably shouldn't be editing then ;)
  132. # [19:03] <gsnedders> I just mucked around with various possible reasons how you might annotate something :)
  133. # [19:04] * gsnedders sighs
  134. # [19:04] <gsnedders> I actually have a scroll bar in Mail.app for all my mailboxes :(
  135. # [19:06] <Lachy> the issues list says "Error loading the folder list: Internal Server Error. Let Hixie know." - Does he know already?
  136. # [19:09] <annevk> i think we could put some simple guidelines on the wiki
  137. # [19:09] <annevk> Lachy, probably not
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  140. # [19:37] <annevk> http://www.kliper.nl/verschillen_tussen_html5_en_html.html
  141. # [19:38] <annevk> tekst loopt niet erg lekker
  142. # [19:38] <annevk> en Opera Software is vertaald :)
  143. # [19:38] <Dashiva> The text does not run smoothly, and Opera Software has been informed
  144. # [19:41] <annevk> vertaald = translated
  145. # [19:42] <annevk> ah, http://www.kliper.nl/blog_HTML5-verschillen_Verschillen_tussen_HTML4.htm says it's been machine translated
  146. # [19:45] <Dashiva> It's always partly hit-and-miss with dutch
  147. # [19:45] * annevk has that with Norwegian
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  149. # [19:59] <krijnh> Hehe
  150. # [20:00] <krijnh> <bed in> is het specifieke element voor plugininhoud
  151. # [20:00] <krijnh> :D
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  173. # [23:35] <Philip`> Hixie: If I was going to bother adding stuff to the spec annotations, would I have to add five hundreds links to tests in the "Links to tests for this section" bit?
  174. # [23:36] <Philip`> Also, I expect "partial+buggy" would be a more accurate status option than the current choices in most cases
  175. # [23:36] <annevk> no
  176. # [23:37] <Dashiva> partial and/or buggy :)
  177. # [23:41] <Philip`> "The latest release version of %s passes all the available test cases for this feature." is vacuously true for many features since there are zero test cases - maybe there should be another option for "this feature is supported but there are not enough test cases to judge the quality of support"
  178. # [23:44] * Philip` needs to remember to update his tests so that Opera 9.5 no longer gets a PASS for getImageData
  179. # [23:45] <annevk> how do we fail?
  180. # [23:46] <Philip`> Hixie: In Firefox 2, after I open the annotation thingy and click "Cancel", the space bar stops working for scrolling down the screen
  181. # [23:46] * annevk sees no bug report
  182. # [23:47] <Philip`> annevk: .data is a CanvasPixelDataArray or something, and not an Array, so when somebody does getImageData(...).data.join(',') then it dies, like in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=291126
  183. # [23:49] <Dashiva> Philip`: You should make that test use a single line for the problematic statement. The .join() doesn't even show in the console error :)
  184. # [23:51] <Philip`> That test isn't mine, so I can't do much to it :-)
  185. # [23:52] <Philip`> Actually, I could, since I could just modify it and upload a new version; but it's not meant to be testing getImageData anyway
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