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- # [14:01] <gsnedders> anyone able to be conned into writing some JavaScript for the HTTP parsing test suite?
- # [14:04] <Philip`> What is that likely to involve?
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- # [15:15] <gsnedders> Philip`: Loading files from one folder, then checking that the headers/body/status match up with a JSON file in another folder (where the two files are related by filename)
- # [15:15] <gsnedders> http://hg.gsnedders.com/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/http-parsing/file/c550df97477b/tests/response/ shows the basic structure of the files
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- # [16:43] <Philip`> gsnedders: How is it meant to determine the headers/body/status?
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- # [16:43] <Philip`> (Using XHR, I guess)
- # [16:43] <Philip`> (since I can't think of any alternatives)
- # [16:44] <Philip`> gsnedders: How is it meant to know which files to load?
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- # [18:00] <gsnedders> Philip`: Yeah, XHR. I guess the best would be to load /tests and use getElementsByTagName('a')
- # [18:01] <gsnedders> Philip`: (then assume the filenames in /expected have the extension .expected instead of .http)
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- # [18:33] <Philip`> gsnedders: Ah, okay
- # [18:33] <Philip`> Why not write it yourself? :-)
- # [18:34] <gsnedders> Philip`: Because I suck and I've already wasted ages failing :)
- # [18:34] <gsnedders> (or rather, my knowledge of JS in general is minimal)
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- # [18:49] <Philip`> gsnedders: Ah, fair enough :-)
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- # [18:53] <gsnedders> Philip`: I'd say I'd add you to the list of contributors in the spec if you helped, but there again, you're already there :)
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- # [19:06] <hsivonen> the current wikitruth about HTML5 does not acknowledge APIs
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- # [19:26] <Philip`> gsnedders: It seems not entirely easy to test HTTP header parsing with XHR, because getAllResponseHeaders is largely undefined and inconsistently implemented
- # [19:26] <gsnedders> Philip`: surely getResponseHeader() would be easier?
- # [19:27] <hsivonen> I keep refinding issues that I've already reported...
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- # [19:27] <hsivonen> ins/del datetime syntax this time
- # [19:27] <Philip`> gsnedders: Then the .expected format would have to be able to say that it expects a certain header to not exist
- # [19:28] <gsnedders> Philip`: some headers are created by the UA though, like the cache ones, in my experience
- # [19:28] <Philip`> (so you can test that things don't get misinterpreted as headers when they shouldn't)
- # [19:29] <gsnedders> Philip`: but surely some other header value or the body will be wrong?
- # [19:34] <Philip`> gsnedders: If you have "HTTP/1.0 200 OK\r\nSome-Garbage\r\nContent-Type: text/html\r\n\r\nBody" then I guess maybe the Some-Garbage would just get ignored, and wouldn't affect anything else, and the tests should check there isn't a parsed header named "Some-Garbage"
- # [19:34] <gsnedders> Philip`: ah. true.
- # [19:34] <Philip`> but maybe that's not too important
- # [19:35] <Philip`> but getAllResponseHeaders is useless anyway so there's not much choice
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- # [19:40] <gsnedders> Philip`: does getResponseHeader() consistently return null when it doesn't exist?
- # [19:40] <gsnedders> (where it == the header)
- # [19:42] <Philip`> gsnedders: No - looks like FF returns null, IE/Opera return ""
- # [19:42] <gsnedders> ergh.
- # [19:42] <gsnedders> Could use that to check, but if that isn't consistent either.
- # [19:43] * hsivonen tries to document the time element "vague" datetime format in one paragraph...
- # [19:43] * Philip` wonders if XHR getResponseHeader uses the same HTTP parser as the rest of the browser engine does
- # [19:44] <Philip`> (given that IE's getAllResponseHeaders returns the originl raw HTTP header string, so it has at least some kind of lower-level hook)
- # [19:44] <Philip`> +a
- # [19:45] <gsnedders> Philip`: in IE and Opera, yes. In Fx it does for some headers, and not for others, IIRC.
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- # [19:46] <Philip`> Hmm, is it impossible to do multiline createTextNode? IE requires "\r" and treats "\n" like a space, but FF requires "\n" and ignores a lone "\r"
- # [19:47] <Philip`> (...inside <pre>, in particular)
- # [19:47] <hsivonen> whoa. the vague time format sucks
- # [19:48] <gsnedders> (IIS and IE don't use the same HTTP parser, though, BTW)
- # [19:51] <gsnedders> Philip`: when does your term end, BTW?
- # [19:51] <hsivonen> gsnedders: did you send feedback about the time formats as part of your microsyntax review? I don't see your messages in the WHATWG issue folder
- # [19:51] <gsnedders> hsivonen: no, I never got around to doing them
- # [19:51] <hsivonen> gsnedders: ok
- # [19:56] <Philip`> gsnedders: Is something like http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/http-test-runner.patch vaguely useful?
- # [19:58] <Philip`> gsnedders: I don't really do terms now, since I've stopped being an undergraduate, so I can go home whenever I want as long as nobody minds :-)
- # [19:59] * gsnedders is forgetting too much
- # [19:59] <gsnedders> Philip`: yeah
- # [19:59] <Philip`> (That is, as long as nobody minds who is important enough that I mind them minding)
- # [20:03] * gsnedders thanks Philip` loads :P
- # [20:05] * Philip` hopes his code isn't too horribly broken
- # [20:25] * gsnedders hasn't tried running it yet
- # [20:25] * gsnedders hopes Philip` did
- # [20:30] * gsnedders wonders if the Connection header should be case sensitive
- # [20:30] <hsivonen> occasionally one has to wonder how this Web thing works at all
- # [20:43] <mpt> It's like an ogre
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- # [22:21] <gsnedders> Onions are like ogres. They both have layers.
- # [22:23] <mpt_> That's what I was referring to, yes
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- # [22:23] <gsnedders> I guessed :)
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