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  5. # [00:21] <zcorpan_> Hixie: s#&lt/#&lt;/#g in html5 source
  6. # [00:21] <zcorpan_> (validating the spec now worked, but it took a while)
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  27. # [03:02] <webben_> Is there a document that describes the typical testing process when new elements/attributes are proposed for HTML5?
  28. # [03:02] <webben_> (note, not the stuff about finding problems and evaluating different solutions)
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  33. # [03:20] <zcorpan_> webben_: what testing process?
  34. # [03:21] <webben_> stuff like inspecting in the live DOM viewer, testing in actual browsers, making experimental implementations
  35. # [03:22] <webben_> oh, and surveying the web to see what's out there
  36. # [03:22] <zcorpan_> i'm not aware of any document that describes that, no
  37. # [03:22] <webben_> ah well. thanks anyhow :)
  38. # [03:23] <zcorpan_> perhaps there's an archived email though
  39. # [03:23] <zcorpan_> dunno
  40. # [03:23] <webben_> does that short list miss out any obvious steps?
  41. # [03:25] <zcorpan_> researching if there are proprietary implementations that solve the same problem
  42. # [03:26] <webben_> ah, that comes under evaluating different solutions
  43. # [03:26] <zcorpan_> true
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  92. # [13:17] <hsivonen> bad stuff. my email provider has a load problem and I'm locked into their service :-(
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  103. # [16:55] <hsivonen> is there a replacement for Hixie's character identifier? it is currently broken
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  106. # [17:33] <webben_> hsivonen: Character identifier?
  107. # [17:33] <webben_> what did it do?
  108. # [17:34] <hsivonen> webben_: identify the code points and unicode names of pasted text
  109. # [17:34] <webben_> hsivonen: http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/uniview/conversion.php
  110. # [17:34] <hsivonen> webben_: cool. Thanks.
  111. # [17:34] <webben_> yw
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  151. # [23:03] <zcorpan_> http://aetherlumina.com/html/sucks.html is pretty funny
  152. # [23:06] <zcorpan_> at the same time it's sad because it's largely true
  153. # [23:07] <webben> when he says XHTML isn't valid XML, precisely what sort of XHTML is he talking about? XHTML distorted via Appendix C, or vanilla "XML" XHTML?
  154. # [23:08] <webben> or does he just mean the document of the XHTML 1.0 spec itself?
  155. # [23:09] <webben> also, some of the sites he lists as having no doctype do have a doctype (maybe the rant's just old, I dunno)
  156. # [23:09] <zcorpan_> dunno. when i try validating w3.org with the service he says i get a number of errors about the dtd
  157. # [23:11] <zcorpan_> wayback machine's first copy of the rant is from april 2003
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  162. # [23:42] <jgraham_> annevk2: yt?
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  164. # [23:47] <annevk2> sort of
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  166. # [23:49] <jgraham_> It's not at all urgent. I was just wondering if there's any chance of getting enough space on james.html5.org to build python 2.5, since that seems to be the right way to fix python suckiness on dreamhost
  167. # [23:49] <jgraham_> But it's not a big problem if not
  168. # [23:50] <annevk> how much do you need?
  169. # [23:50] <annevk> gigabyte?
  170. # [23:51] <annevk> just give me a number of MB
  171. # [23:53] <annevk> you got 10GB now
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  173. # [23:53] <annevk> instead of 100MB
  174. # [23:53] <jgraham_> OK, so that rather makes my attemp to estimate how much is needed pointless :)
  175. # [23:53] <jgraham_> Thanks :)
  176. # [23:54] <annevk> the plan comes with 290GB and the UI sort of encourages to put limits on users so I give everyone 100MB by default
  177. # [23:55] <annevk> assuming that scripts + html pages + the occasional image doesn't go over that, but it's a pretty arbitrary limit
  178. # [23:56] <hsivonen> hmm. would be interesting to build an encrypted Dreamhost filesystem with FUSE
  179. # [23:56] <jgraham_> Yeah, having limits makes sense
  180. # [23:56] <hsivonen> and use it as a TimeMachine backing store...
  181. # [23:57] <gsnedders> I mean, you never know what I might use it for :P
  182. # [23:57] * gsnedders needs to write more tests
  183. # [23:57] * gsnedders has too much to-do
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