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  8. # [01:06] <Fiboknight> please someone help me with an irc logger
  9. # [01:11] * Philip` sees that we are second on http://www.google.com/search?q=irc+log
  10. # [01:11] <Philip`> or fourth, if I use a different browser
  11. # [01:12] <Philip`> Hooray for personalised search results
  12. # [01:12] <Philip`> I'm not sure this is the best place to find out about IRC logging, though
  13. # [01:16] <Fiboknight> thanks
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  87. # [21:23] <krijnh> Philip`: Yeah, I should put Google Ads on the logs ;)
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  97. # [22:48] <hsivonen> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Feb/0014.html
  98. # [22:48] <hsivonen> what's the actionable feedback?
  99. # [22:52] <gsnedders> jgraham: what lens you use for those two photos you just put on Flickr?
  100. # [22:56] <webben> hsivonen: Hmm. Well, Frank appears to want to be able to force a mime type in the validator. He also seems to want validator to test URIs are URIs not IRIs.
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  103. # [22:58] <hsivonen> would Validator.nu users be better off in general if I made the XHTML 1.0 schemas really require URIs instead of IRIs?
  104. # [22:59] <webben> if XHTML 1.0 requires URIs not IRIs and validator users are trying to validate XHTML 1.0 then yes.
  105. # [23:01] <hsivonen> I guess it depends on whether you consider external refs to be independently updateable
  106. # [23:02] <hsivonen> like the it wouldn't do anyone any good if Validator.nu used Unicode 2 insteado of Unicode 5
  107. # [23:02] <hsivonen> although W3C specs in general haven't yet been updated to point to Unicode 5.0
  108. # [23:05] <webben> you mean the IRI requirement is set in a different spec?
  109. # [23:06] <webben> I guess that would depend on the spec.
  110. # [23:06] <webben> If it's debatable, then you'd need to give users an option.
  111. # [23:06] <webben> or seek clarification from whoever's responsible for the spec in question
  112. # [23:06] <hsivonen> webben: I mean if a spec points to URIs when IRIs weren't specified, should software developers treat IRI as an update of URI as far as markup language attribute values go
  113. # [23:07] <annevk> hsivonen, I don't think it's worth bothering about details that should've been errated in specs long ago
  114. # [23:07] <annevk> (and where the spec in fact hints that the situation is going to change)
  115. # [23:07] <jgraham> gsnedders: Cannon 60mm EF-S 2.8 Macro
  116. # [23:08] <webben> hsivonen: only the group responsible for maintaining the XHTML 1.0 spec people are trying to validate to can answer that one way or the other.
  117. # [23:08] <webben> I guess that's Pemberton's lot atm.
  118. # [23:08] <gsnedders> jgraham: I was thinking of getting that sometime (in a while, as I want a telephoto lens first)
  119. # [23:09] <jgraham> hsivonen: I guess the practical answer depends on whether any software depends on URIs-only
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  121. # [23:10] <hsivonen> jgraham: really old browsers do
  122. # [23:10] <jgraham> gsnedders: You should consider the 100mm Macro too; I didn't get it because this one was cheaper and someone else was paying
  123. # [23:10] <gsnedders> jgraham: I really don't do much macro photography, so I really wouldn't want to get a very expensive one
  124. # [23:11] <jgraham> hsivonen: s/software/current software/ then.
  125. # [23:11] <hsivonen> I'm inclined to fix this in documentation and claim that the schema isn't XHTML 1.0 but XHTML 1.0 plus IRI
  126. # [23:12] <jgraham> gsnedders: Well with lenses "expensive" means very different things to different people :)
  127. # [23:12] <gsnedders> jgraham: that's true :)
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  130. # [23:20] <gsnedders> jgraham: for a start: L lenses are madly expensive :)
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  133. # [23:45] <Hixie> i have way too much fun making my examples in the spec refer to things i like
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  136. # [23:49] <Lachy> Hixie, what examples are you adding to the spec now, and what do they refer to?
  137. # [23:49] <Hixie> <m> (now called <mark>)
  138. # [23:49] <hsivonen> http://omniplex.blogspot.com/2007/05/fictitious-u1e9e-character-endorsed-by.html
  139. # [23:49] <Hixie> and you'll have to see if you can guess them :-)
  140. # [23:49] <Lachy> ok
  141. # [23:50] <hsivonen> Unicode needs a mechanism that stops the implementation cost of a new character from being an externality from the proposer point of view
  142. # [23:51] <Lachy> I still never figured out that ΑΒΓ company alt text example
  143. # [23:52] <Lachy> though, I found out the XYZ company example is possibly a reference to one of your old test cases on your site
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  145. # [23:55] <Hixie> that's all it was iirc
  146. # [23:57] <Lachy> the ΑΒΓ company one too? I haven't seen that test case yet. Though, it'll probably show up in spartan one day
  147. # [23:57] <Hixie> i think it's just a different company with the same kind of name
  148. # [23:57] <Hixie> but i could be mistaken
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