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  3. # [00:02] <gsnedders> (The ID gen changes only really effect things that play around with edge cases, like HTML5 :D)
  4. # [00:02] <Hixie> heh
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  7. # [00:23] <Hixie> i guess we'll have to study how people use Content-Language
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  11. # [00:39] <gsnedders> Hixie: As an HTTP header?
  12. # [00:39] <Hixie> meta
  13. # [00:40] <gsnedders> I can give you data for HTTP header, but not meta :P
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  88. # [12:20] <gsnedders> Why do I read public-html and whatwg?
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  94. # [12:44] <Dashiva> gsnedders: Because it's relevant to your interests (and future employment, maybe even)
  95. # [13:03] <gsnedders> We are the Priests/Of the Temples of Syrinx
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  101. # [15:06] * jgraham was hoping that gsnedders was setting up a "why does the chicken cross the road" type joke
  102. # [15:07] <gsnedders> jgraham: No, I wasn't.
  103. # [15:07] <gsnedders> jgraham: I guess I'm relying on the fact my T-shirt says, "Maybe if this shirt is witty enough someone will finally love me" for wit.
  104. # [16:00] <hsivonen> gsnedders: I suggest using an HTML5 parser that can be configured to follow the infoset coercion rules and, thus, maps space characters to XML S.
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  106. # [16:17] <gsnedders> hsivonen: I have no need for the output to match XML, though
  107. # [16:17] <hsivonen> gsnedders: it makes the Toolchain work
  108. # [16:18] <gsnedders> I realised half an hour ago that normalize-space(translate(., "\x0C", " ")) would work fine
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  112. # [17:05] <hsivonen> it takes almost 9 minutes to compile the parser into JS on 2.4 GHz Core Duo
  113. # [17:10] <Philip`> hsivonen: Why does http://validator.nu/?doc=http://www.teamfortress.com/ say "Error: Required attributes missing on element map." on the <map name="home">? I don't see any attributes required other than 'name'
  114. # [17:14] <hsivonen> Philip`: interesting.
  115. # [17:14] <hsivonen> Philip`: are you seeing similar bogus messages on other elements?
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  117. # [17:18] <Philip`> hsivonen: Not that I can see
  118. # [17:18] <Philip`> Maybe something (maybe me) is getting confused because XHTML requires id instead of name?
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  120. # [17:22] <hsivonen> Philip`: oh. right. it's not the HTML5 schema
  121. # [17:23] <Philip`> HTML 4.01 Transitional apparently
  122. # [17:24] <Philip`> Sounds like that's a known issue, given http://about.validator.nu/#ideas
  123. # [17:25] * hsivonen tries to figure out why </body> hangs in the Web mode of GWT, although the code works right in Hosted mode
  124. # [17:25] <Philip`> Is there any debugging support for the Web mode?
  125. # [17:27] <hsivonen> Philip`: Firebug :-)
  126. # [17:28] <hsivonen> Philip`: but it's not useful due to the obfuscation
  127. # [17:29] <hsivonen> (GWT RC2 introduced a bug in the non-obfuscated compiler mode, so that's no good)
  128. # [17:29] <Philip`> Sounds like fun
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  135. # [18:28] <gsnedders> anyone from the US around?
  136. # [18:45] <hsivonen> yay. the GWT compiler bug causing the hang is one of those bugs that stops being a bug when observed
  137. # [18:45] <hsivonen> (inserting alerts fixes the problem--presumably by foiling some compiler "optimizations")
  138. # [18:47] <gsnedders> nvm
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  146. # [20:41] <Philip`> (which indicates still requiring content-type opt-in to the new version, but promoting putting it in <script type> instead of HTTP content-type)
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  162. # [23:35] <Xenos> Don't everybody talk at once, now
  163. # [23:50] <Lachy> Xenos, it's usually quiet in here on weekends
  164. # [23:51] <Xenos> Ahh
  165. # [23:51] <gsnedders> Until someone explodes, at least
  166. # [23:52] <Lachy> fortunately, exploding people are an infrequent occurrence. Though, it's messy when it does happen.
  167. # [23:52] <gsnedders> (Don't worry about me, I'm just talking about a mixture of Nabokov on IM, primarily Lolita and Ada or Ardor)
  168. # [23:53] <Xenos> How do you represent exploding people in text format?
  169. # [23:53] * gsnedders explodes
  170. # [23:53] <Lachy> *BOOM*
  171. # [23:53] <gsnedders> Xenos: ^^
  172. # [23:53] <Xenos> Ahh
  173. # [23:53] <gsnedders> Either work.
  174. # [23:53] <Xenos> Doesn't seem so messy to me :p
  175. # [23:53] <gsnedders> You can't see myself or Lachy now.
  176. # [23:54] <Lachy> Xenos, you'd think differently if you saw my screen right now
  177. # [23:54] <Lachy> :-)
  178. # [23:54] <Xenos> This is true. I am impressed by your disembodied selves still handling your keyboards, though :p
  179. # [23:55] <gsnedders> Xenos: I don't have a keyboard, I just have diodes attached to various bits of brain splattered across this room
  180. # [23:55] <Xenos> Ah :P
  181. # [23:55] <gsnedders> Now, let me try and reassemble myself so I can go to bed.
  182. # [23:56] <Xenos> hehe
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