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- # Session Start: Sat Sep 20 00:00:00 2008
- # Session Ident: #whatwg
- # [00:06] <krijnh> Pleasing anne does pay off sometimes :)
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- # [02:12] <gsnedders> krijnh: _sometimes_.
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- # [02:30] <annevk2> especially when I'm right
- # [02:32] <annevk2> http://annevankesteren.nl/2008/09/re-two-thousand-twenty-two#comment-6629
- # [02:33] <annevk2> it's funny in a way
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- # [02:46] <gsnedders> Hixie bringing up Godwin's Law?
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- # [06:05] <shepazu> annevk2: where did I post to a member-only thread?
- # [06:07] <shepazu> er, point to a post on a member-only thread, I mean
- # [06:09] <shepazu> what the heck? why did Hyatt post that to the old SVG list?
- # [06:09] <shepazu> maybe he didn't know we work in public now
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- # [10:27] <Hixie> you know, a remarkable number of new features in html5 have been implemented in at least one browser
- # [10:27] <Hixie> we're further along than i thought
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- # [10:44] <hsivonen> Hixie: and parsing is implemented outside browsers as is the outline algorithm
- # [10:45] <hsivonen> Hixie: is there anything implementing behavior triggered on <aside>?
- # [10:48] <Hixie> as far as i know the main things missing any implementations at all are <datagrid> and all the various semantic elements
- # [10:48] <Hixie> including <aside>
- # [10:54] <othermaciej> parsing algorithm is not implemented in any browser
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- # [11:43] <hsivonen> I see Transformations, Transitions and Animations as medium priority on CSS WG's list. is the CSS WG working on them after all? http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/current-work
- # [11:51] <Hixie> there's a weird bug in mac os x software update
- # [11:52] <Hixie> it's reboot-time progress bar's range is limited to 0..20%
- # [11:52] <Hixie> its
- # [11:52] <Hixie> also why on earth does updating quicktime and itunes require a restart
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- # [12:17] <zcorpan> hsivonen: why doesn't the svg schema have holes for inkscape and rdf?
- # [12:20] <zcorpan> hsivonen: or if it's intentional, why does the svg preset have the "unchecked" pseudo-schema?
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- # [12:26] <hsivonen> zcorpan: no good reason. perhaps the standalone schema should have the same holes
- # [12:31] * zcorpan looks at http://validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwebkit.org%2Fblog-files%2Fanimation-demo.svg&showsource=yes
- # [12:32] * zcorpan notes that the results of the same svg embedded in xhtml with the xhtml5+svg schema are more useful
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- # [13:08] <annevk2> heh, several people have been trying to figure out whether html5.org has a forum
- # [13:09] <annevk2> visits have gone up to ~20000 a day despite robots being blocked by robots.txt
- # [13:12] <svl> annevk2: unlikely that it's been "people" trying to find that out. There's several spambots which try visiting the common directories for frequently used forum software like phpbb
- # [13:12] <annevk2> hmm, it doesn't seem entirely reliable, ~200000 requests from MSIE/5
- # [13:12] <annevk2> where other browsers have more in the order of ~5000
- # [13:13] <annevk2> so probably some bot is still hitting it hard
- # [13:13] <hsivonen> what's a good apt-gettable apache log analysis package these days?
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- # [13:15] <annevk2> but there's not a single host with ~200000 requests, probably uses several IPs or so... hmm
- # [13:17] <svl> annevk2: if it's the same, it's all botnets.
- # [13:18] <annevk2> I suspect it being the same, there's far too much MSIE/5 in there
- # [13:18] <annevk2> I don't really have much interest in investigating this further though as there's nothing to spam on html5.org and there's no load problem either
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- # [16:36] <gsnedders> I can't quite decide whether it's going to rain and through that whether to go out or not. Meh.
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- # [18:14] <takkaria> oh, the TAG f2f minutes are interestinf
- # [18:15] <takkaria> or rather, the agenda
- # [18:15] <takkaria> apparently if you're embedding HTML fragments in Atom in CDATA sections, you might as well be embedding PostScript or "something equally opaque"
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- # [18:22] <billyjackass> takkaria: you sure the "equally opaque" part wasn't referring to the actually f2f attendees themselves?
- # [18:24] <takkaria> heh
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The end :)