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  1. # Session Start: Mon Nov 03 00:00:00 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  3. # [00:41] <BenMillard> there's another LibDem site which uses the same markup and design as the Cotswolds one, so I've given them the same analysis
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  5. # [00:42] <Philip`> BenMillard: I'm not especially active
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  8. # [00:48] <takkaria> just the occasional walk, then?
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  11. # [00:52] <BenMillard> Philip`, no worries. I'm noting "Gone" and reviewing as best I can from the sample markup in that text file.
  12. # [00:52] <BenMillard> so far, I've been able to review all of them thanks to the sample :)
  13. # [00:53] <Philip`> BenMillard: I don't have an entirely trivial way to see the content from the versions of the pages that I downloaded, so it's probably easier to try archive.org for them
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  15. # [01:12] <BenMillard> Philip`, oh yeah! thanks for reminding me
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  63. # [09:32] <cyclist> Does the table processing model describe the algorithm to caclulate the column widths?
  64. # [09:35] <cyclist> from my understanding it only describes how to determine which column/row *slots* are assigned to each cell
  65. # [09:39] <roc> calculating column widths is a CSS issue
  66. # [09:42] <cyclist> ok
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  90. # [13:36] <hsivonen> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Nov/0008.html I wonder what the rationale for three sets of metrics is...
  91. # [13:45] <zcorpan> hmm... wonder which cases to consider when designing how to be bandwidth-conservative with <audio> and <video>
  92. # [13:45] <zcorpan> new Audio(src) is likely to be used for games so should be downloaded in full
  93. # [13:46] <zcorpan> or perhaps we should have a way for authors to say "i want to preload the whole thing"
  94. # [13:47] <zcorpan> there's no new Video(src)
  95. # [13:48] <zcorpan> perhaps there's no need to preload videos
  96. # [13:48] <zcorpan> or perhaps the offline stuff should be used i one wants to preload stuff
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  124. # [16:33] * Philip` wonders why pressing backspace to delete the first character in a contenteditable span in FF3 causes it to not delete the character, and instead to insert a space before the span
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  126. # [16:35] <Philip`> ...but only when the span is preceded by a space character
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  140. # [16:43] <Philip`> Ah, looks like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455992
  141. # [16:44] * Philip` hopes someone gets around to fixing it some time
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  150. # [17:10] <shepazu> hsivonen: http://www.economist.com/vote2008/?mode=description
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  157. # [17:49] <Philip`> shepazu: It's odd that they wait until the last paragraph of their analysis (saying "our readers in America also massively favoured the Democrat over the Republican, by 81% to 19%") to indicate that their polling method is rubbish and totally unrepresentative of reality
  158. # [17:57] <gavin> heh
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  160. # [17:58] <gavin> wow, in context they even admit that the number doesn't match reality
  161. # [17:59] * gsnedders waves
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  163. # [18:02] <Philip`> gavin: But they only say the American number doesn't match reality, and don't retract their claims about the views of the rest of the world
  164. # [18:02] <gsnedders> Am I the only person who finds Philip` ridiculously funny on IRC?
  165. # [18:02] <gavin> yeah
  166. # [18:03] <Philip`> (Never mind that a (not even random) minimum sample of 10 people from each country is pretty useless)
  167. # [18:03] <Philip`> gavin: He is the only one? :-(
  168. # [18:03] <gavin> (to Philip`)
  169. # [18:03] <Philip`> Ah, phew
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  171. # [18:06] <gsnedders> My standards suck interview still isn't up? Those guys suck.
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  207. # [19:45] * Philip` loves Gentoo
  208. # [19:46] <smedero> why's that?
  209. # [19:46] <Philip`> The com_err package was blocking an upgrade of e2fsprogs, presumably because its functionality is now bundled into e2fsprogs for some strange reason
  210. # [19:46] <Philip`> so I uninstalled com_err, so that it would let me upgrade e2fsprogs
  211. # [19:46] <Philip`> But wget relies on com_err, so it became unable to download e2fsprogs :-(
  212. # [19:47] <Philip`> s/it/the package installation system/
  213. # [19:49] <gsnedders> c'est la vie :P
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  215. # [19:50] <Philip`> (curl relies on it too, but fortunately GET (from Perl's LWP) doesn't, so it let me download the package into the expected location, and it's all okay now)
  216. # [19:50] * gsnedders got conditional offer from York (at AH BB in maths and physics)
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  229. # [20:21] <aboodman> Hixie: ping on worker feedback
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  231. # [20:21] <Hixie> i'm on vacation til 11/11, but it's on my list of things to reply to when i get back
  232. # [20:22] <BenMillard> I've got 20 URLs left to categorise from Philip's <q> collection: http://philip.html5.org/data/q-tags.txt
  233. # [20:22] <BenMillard> 39 entries so far (a couple of URLs have multiple entries)
  234. # [20:23] <BenMillard> s/20 URLs left/22 URLs left/
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  239. # [20:40] * Philip` doesn't like how Gmail makes it harder to mark a spam message as spam than to simply delete it
  240. # [20:40] <Philip`> (If you mark it as spam then you have to delete it from the spam folder later)
  241. # [20:42] <Philip`> Only the tenuous hope that marking as spam will inform some heuristics and reduce the likelihood of future spam causes me to keep doing so
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  246. # [21:27] <gsnedders> q really is the new acronym.
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