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  1. # Session Start: Fri Dec 26 00:00:01 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  3. # [00:06] <gsnedders> Philip`: k, th
  4. # [00:06] <gsnedders> *thx
  5. # [00:07] <gsnedders> Hixie: It your birthday on the 27th then?
  6. # [00:08] <Hixie> gsnedders: i can get as far as jumping into the air with the bike. it's never gone well beyond that.
  7. # [00:08] <Hixie> (the shooting people is trivial, just a pain in the ass)
  8. # [00:08] <Hixie> (cos it's so long)
  9. # [00:08] <gsnedders> Hixie: Yeah, it took me several tries on my first attempt
  10. # [00:09] <gsnedders> Hixie: You just have to make sure you miss all the hard barrels and keep your speed up on to the ramp
  11. # [00:09] <gsnedders> Hixie: You know what happens straight after the jump?
  12. # [00:10] * gsnedders is trying to avoid spoilers :P
  13. # [00:12] <Hixie> no idea :-)
  14. # [00:13] <Hixie> but i can guess, either i land in the helicopter or the boat, i assume
  15. # [00:13] <gsnedders> Yeah, that's obvious enough :)
  16. # [00:13] <Hixie> and peroggino randomly becomes mortal again probably
  17. # [00:13] <gsnedders> Not yet
  18. # [00:13] <Hixie> oh lovely :-P
  19. # [00:13] <Hixie> anyway we'll see
  20. # [00:13] <gsnedders> He's still immortal for a bit longer :)
  21. # [00:13] <gsnedders> As for when he becomes mortal, that you will have to see :)
  22. # [00:14] <Hixie> i hate that they did that though
  23. # [00:14] <Hixie> it's so stupid
  24. # [00:15] <Hixie> i shot the guy in the bag for god's sake
  25. # [00:15] <gsnedders> Yeah, I totally agree
  26. # [00:15] <Hixie> in the back even
  27. # [00:15] <gsnedders> I got hit by such things several times
  28. # [00:15] <gsnedders> (or rather, I hit the other person)
  29. # [00:19] <gsnedders> ergh. Why on earth does this need Flash!?
  30. # [00:26] * jruderman wonders how to "file bugs with the ECMAScript committee"
  31. # [00:26] <jruderman> wow, they have a public bug-tracking system
  32. # [00:26] <jruderman> http://bugs.ecmascript.org/
  33. # [00:27] <jruderman> that's pretty cool
  34. # [00:33] <gsnedders> http://secret.gsnedders.com/school/The%20Enchanter.html — now with (almost) completely pointless Javascript!
  35. # [00:34] <gsnedders> (see the headings under "Quotes", those uls with checkboxes are automagically created)
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  38. # [01:10] <MikeSmith> jruderman: thanks for pointing that one out
  39. # [01:10] <MikeSmith> I see http://bugs.ecmascript.org/report/1
  40. # [01:11] <MikeSmith> trying to remember what's different between 3.1 and Harmony
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  43. # [01:20] <MikeSmith> http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=es3.1:es3.1_proposal_working_draft
  44. # [01:21] <MikeSmith> great that they don't publish the draft in HTML, but they do provide it in MS Word format in addition to PDF. way to go the extra mile
  45. # [01:24] <jgraham> MikeSmith: HTML is dead, compared to MS Word, HTML is lame
  46. # [01:24] <jgraham> Only old people use HTML
  47. # [01:24] <MikeSmith> heh
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  49. # [01:25] <jgraham> Real users need entiprise features like Wordart
  50. # [01:26] <MikeSmith> I prefer OpenOffice format, because using the OpenOffice applications is great torture test of the CPU and memory resources of my machine
  51. # [01:26] <jgraham> heh
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  55. # [01:55] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: So, basically, I'm just trying to do a dissertation as controversial as possible :)
  56. # [01:56] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: reading Nabakov is great cure for sleeplessness
  57. # [01:56] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: I am, however, starting to run out of (English) Nabokov I haven't yet read :)
  58. # [01:57] <MikeSmith> I recommend abandoning him completely and reading all of Flann O'Brien instead
  59. # [01:57] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: That wouldn't bode well for my English dissertation, though
  60. # [01:58] <MikeSmith> fuck it, prove to them that you are a risk-taker and an original
  61. # [01:58] <gsnedders> :)
  62. # [01:58] <MikeSmith> and if they don't like that, burn the school down
  63. # [01:59] <gsnedders> Oh, I think my English teacher would let me
  64. # [01:59] <MikeSmith> that fallback strategy always worked well for me
  65. # [01:59] * gsnedders has already completely changed his computing project
  66. # [01:59] * gsnedders is now working on Anolis in a slight guise
  67. # [01:59] <takkaria> read Camus instead :)
  68. # [02:00] <takkaria> my sister found me a first english edition of The Plague for christmas, it really made my day
  69. # [02:00] <gsnedders> Ah
  70. # [02:01] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: English teachers are easy to manipulate, because their grasp of reason and logic is usually pretty shakey. Most of them did really poorly at math and science, which is why they ended up becoming English teachers
  71. # [02:01] <gsnedders> I got a couple of non-fiction books from my mother, and The Time Traveller's Wife from my sister
  72. # [02:01] <gsnedders> (which I have had several friends recommend to me)
  73. # [02:02] <takkaria> ay, it's a good book
  74. # [02:02] <gsnedders> (I could make an interesting observation about their choice of recommending that book to me with what they know about me, but this is publicly logged :))
  75. # [02:10] <gsnedders> (hint: It relates to the title character's first name)
  76. # [02:15] <Hixie> ok finally completed gta iv
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  129. # [12:00] <gsnedders> Hixie: Did I ever say that myself and BenMillard found the Spiderman walk-through level hard?
  130. # [12:01] <gsnedders> Hixie: Mainly because we were laughing so much we didn't actually know what we were meant to do.
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  133. # [13:53] <annevk> "PS: what we probably need now is more implementation of current W3C Reccomandations like XForms 1.0, instead of running behind the latest HTML5 Editor's Drafts)"
  134. # [13:54] * annevk thinks Giovanni missed the reason the WHATWG was initiated
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  143. # [15:01] <olliej> annevk: hehe
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  152. # [15:56] <yecril71> 1st of all, I wish everyone an abundance of Christmas blessings.
  153. # [15:56] <yecril71> It is easy to tell the first occurrence of a technical term from the following ones.
  154. # [15:56] <yecril71> That is what the DFN element is for.
  155. # [15:57] <yecril71> Alex wanted to say that it should be possible to attach other script engines to existing HTML documents.
  156. # [15:57] <yecril71> But that is already supported.
  157. # [15:59] <annevk> yecril71, some context in the form of quotes or URLs would help when you place one of your comments in IRC
  158. # [15:59] <annevk> I often have a hard time telling what you're on about
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  160. # [16:14] <yecril71> I am trying to formulate my remarks so that they are context-free.
  161. # [16:15] <yecril71> Aren’t they?
  162. # [16:16] <yecril71> The context would be visible if I were allowed to use e-mail reply function.
  163. # [16:17] <yecril71> But I have been asked not to do this because my remarks are considered unconstructive.
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  172. # [18:35] <gsnedders> <blockquote><p>foo<p>bar</blockquote> magic
  173. # [18:36] <gsnedders> How can I get the magic to be displayed just after the "bar", on the same line?
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  175. # [18:45] <erlehmann> gsnedders, use css to make the blockquote an inline-block
  176. # [18:46] <erlehmann> "display:inline-block;" should do it
  177. # [18:46] <gsnedders> erlehmann: Does that stop margins from folders?
  178. # [18:46] <erlehmann> what are "folders" ?
  179. # [18:47] <gsnedders> *folding
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  181. # [18:47] <erlehmann> inline-block behaves like an "inline replaced element", AFAIK
  182. # [18:48] <erlehmann> but i think margin folding stops only when using floats, wasn't it that ? i am unsure.
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  184. # [18:48] <gsnedders> It appears to stop folding in Saf
  185. # [18:48] <gsnedders> (It's no issue, because I shouldn't really have a margin on the blockquote anyway)
  186. # [18:50] <erlehmann> what is "saf" ?
  187. # [18:50] <gsnedders> Safari
  188. # [18:50] <erlehmann> ah
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  193. # [19:43] <gsnedders> Hmm…
  194. # [19:44] <gsnedders> q for something someone said is fine (e.g., <q>I am</q>, he said), yet isn't fine in fiction, as you aren't actually quoting anyone arguably.
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  202. # [21:09] <ap> Hixie: ayt?
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  205. # [21:55] <dave_levin> ap: Dec 27 is Hixie's b-day (according to what he said in irc a day or two ago), so in 10 minutes for you.... :)
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  207. # [21:56] <ap> cool, if he was here, I could perhaps be the first to congratulate :-)
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  211. # [22:02] <gsnedders> Hixie: Happy One-Year-To-Doomage!
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