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  13. # [01:04] <Midler> will there be a target="_tab" in html5?
  14. # [01:04] <Midler> Forcing the browser to open a link in a tab
  15. # [01:04] <Midler> :P
  16. # [01:07] <Dashiva> No
  17. # [01:08] <Midler> ok
  18. # [01:11] <Philip`> It'd seem silly five years from now when the new UI paradigm doesn't have the concept of tabs
  19. # [01:11] <Midler> ye, i know
  20. # [01:12] <Midler> All browsers nowadays has tabs
  21. # [01:12] <Midler> However, u might want for some reason (that i cant get right now), open a page in a new window
  22. # [01:13] <Midler> Example, instead of javascript window.open
  23. # [01:13] <Philip`> Like target="_blank"?
  24. # [01:13] <Midler> yes
  25. # [01:13] <Midler> Somethimes _blank
  26. # [01:13] <Midler> and (most of the thime) _tab
  27. # [01:14] <Midler> but know when i think of it, target seems useless
  28. # [01:14] <Philip`> I think Opera already loads target=_blank into a new tab by default
  29. # [01:14] <Midler> most browser does by default
  30. # [01:14] <Midler> but thats the thing
  31. # [01:15] <Midler> If you by some reason dont want to open a page up in a new tab, then what?
  32. # [01:15] <Midler> I cant come to think of any of these moments
  33. # [01:15] <Midler> right now*
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  35. # [01:17] * Philip` knows this has been discussed before but can't remember the relevant arguments, and so goes to bed instead :-)
  36. # [01:18] <Midler> Hm, well
  37. # [01:18] <Midler> google had some javascript examples somewhere
  38. # [01:18] <othermaciej> hi everyone
  39. # [01:18] <Midler> And one of the example was about moving a ball thru different windows
  40. # [01:19] <Midler> Cant remember the page
  41. # [01:20] <Midler> Multiple windows interacting with each other*
  42. # [01:22] <Philip`> http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/browser-ball/ ?
  43. # [01:23] <Midler> jup
  44. # [01:23] <Midler> thats the one
  45. # [01:24] <Dashiva> Midler: The user has the choice to open in window and tab, that's all you need
  46. # [01:44] <Midler> Is there anyone here that have some time to spend and listen to my stupid questions =)
  47. # [01:44] <Midler> ?
  48. # [01:45] <annevk2> just write them down
  49. # [01:45] <annevk2> stuff is logged, maybe some day you'll get a reply :)
  50. # [01:46] <Midler> ^^
  51. # [01:46] <Midler> Well, for example
  52. # [01:46] <Midler> typing <!-- --> all the time to write a comment is quite...well
  53. # [01:46] * Midler is a lazy guy
  54. # [01:47] <Midler> And second of all (i dont know if its within the standardisation)
  55. # [01:47] <Midler> But favicon
  56. # [01:47] <Midler> I would like to be able to have favicons in .png and .svg
  57. # [01:47] <Midler> And in bigger size for a reason
  58. # [01:48] <Midler> There is ppl that for example saves the homepage as a link on their desktop
  59. # [01:48] <Midler> And usually it will be desplayed with the broswer loggo
  60. # [01:48] <annevk2> you can do that by using the sizes attribute on <link>
  61. # [01:49] <Midler> well, but right now favicon has a maxsize doesnt it?
  62. # [01:50] <Midler> And also, as more stuffs is getting on the web. A link with the page logos instead of browser logo could be something to consider, but that means bigger logos
  63. # [02:09] <Midler> hmm
  64. # [02:10] <Midler> target is also implemented in area
  65. # [02:12] <Midler> If you take the example from w3c
  66. # [02:12] <Midler> http://www.w3schools.com/tags/html5_map.asp
  67. # [02:12] <Midler> Would you like that to open in a new tab, or blank?
  68. # [02:12] * Midler would prefer window.open
  69. # [02:12] <Midler> so i answered myself ofcourse :P
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  138. # [13:44] * Philip` offers condolences
  139. # [13:45] <takkaria> :)
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  152. # [13:57] <MikeSmith> takkaria: you know yet what you'll be working on?
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  155. # [14:11] <Philip`> gsnedders: http://gsnedders.html5.org/outliner/process.py?url=--%3E%3Cscript%3Ealert('haxxored')%3C/script%3E
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  159. # [14:43] <MikeSmith> hmm, the spec's not particularly consistent about making it clear whether a particular attribute is required or not
  160. # [14:44] <MikeSmith> e.g., for the source element
  161. # [14:44] <MikeSmith> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#the-source-element
  162. # [14:44] <MikeSmith> the spec doesn't say whether the media element is optional or required
  163. # [14:45] <MikeSmith> I guess readers are meant to infer that if the spec doesn't explicitly say a particular attributed is "required" or "must be present", it's optional
  164. # [14:46] <takkaria> MikeSmith: I'm on the opera Mini team apparently
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  166. # [14:51] <MikeSmith> takkaria: really, on Opera Mini team?
  167. # [14:51] <MikeSmith> great team
  168. # [14:51] <MikeSmith> I reckon you're going to have a chance to do some pretty interesting stuff
  169. # [14:51] <MikeSmith> you're going to be coding, right?
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  171. # [14:54] <MikeSmith> cool to see somebody actually implementing <datagrid>
  172. # [14:54] <MikeSmith> hey Rik`
  173. # [14:55] <Rik`> hey MikeSmith
  174. # [14:57] <hsivonen> whoa! who is implementing datagrid?
  175. # [14:57] <hsivonen> with all the copious CSS pseudos within?
  176. # [14:57] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: webkit
  177. # [14:57] <MikeSmith> dhyatt
  178. # [14:57] <MikeSmith> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26545#c1
  179. # [14:57] <hsivonen> interesting
  180. # [14:58] <MikeSmith> [[
  181. # [14:58] <MikeSmith> This implementation may end up being very different from what's in the spec.
  182. # [14:58] <MikeSmith> The goal is to create a simpler implementation that can help improve the spec.
  183. # [14:58] <MikeSmith> ]]
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  186. # [15:15] <hsivonen> jgraham: I was expecting it to get dropped. not necessarily quietly
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