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  1. # Session Start: Sun Jul 05 00:00:00 2009
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  7. # [12:39] <krijnh> Oh hai
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  40. # [15:01] <krijn> Start logging you!
  41. # [15:01] <krijnh> :(
  42. # [15:01] <krijn> Let's see how long it lasts
  43. # [15:02] <Lachy> hey, it's working now
  44. # [15:02] <krijn> Yeah, the magic part
  45. # [15:02] <krijn> :)
  46. # [15:03] <Lachy> have you always been running krijn and krijnh as separate users? I thought the logging used to be done on the same machine you used
  47. # [15:04] <krijn> No, usually I'm not here
  48. # [15:06] <Lachy> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/07/03/funny-pictures-sky-hmm/
  49. # [15:06] <Lachy> :-D
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  52. # [15:20] <karlcow> [03:26] <MikeSmith> about the future-of-XHTML confusion, maybe it would help for someone in the group to edit a "XHTML5 and HTML5" Note to make things clear
  53. # [15:20] <karlcow> I'm 30% through. I hope to have finish tonight (Montreal time).
  54. # [15:21] <MikeSmith> karlcow: excellent
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  58. # [15:34] <Dashiva> Maybe someone could volunteer to provide gap logs for whenever krinj falls out of the channel
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  68. # [17:09] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: you planning to announce/blog about html5.enable support in nightlies?
  69. # [17:10] <MikeSmith> (since I notice it's already been mentioned on the whatwg list)
  70. # [17:22] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: Was your "for now" answer meaning until chaals in back?
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  74. # [17:53] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: yeah
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  79. # [18:17] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: yes, when comment end bang is on mozilla-central
  80. # [18:21] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: OK, I saw that you had checked that into v.nu repository
  81. # [18:23] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: can't do the same with m-c without r&sr
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  84. # [18:43] <sayrer_> MikeSmith: so I have anolis spitting out a document that looks like a w3c working draft. It's not clear to me which software changes the dates and/or formats it to look like an editor's draft
  85. # [18:43] <sayrer_> do you know?
  86. # [18:44] <MikeSmith> sayrer_: about anolis, gsnedders would be the one to ask
  87. # [18:44] <sayrer_> oh, right, sorry
  88. # [18:44] <MikeSmith> but basically, it just needs to point at the ED CSS stylesheet
  89. # [18:45] <sayrer_> oh ok
  90. # [18:45] <Lachy> hsivonen, when did the html5.enable pref get added to Firefox nightles?
  91. # [18:45] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/TR/W3C-ED
  92. # [18:46] <sayrer_> MikeSmith: also, you asked me to create a new directory in the repo. you want it next to /html-design-principles etc?
  93. # [18:46] <hsivonen> Lachy: on Monday
  94. # [18:47] <sayrer_> don't want to create a directory in the wrong place, since cvs is pretty defective with misplaced directories
  95. # [18:53] <MikeSmith> sayrer_: yep, next to html-design-principles/ etc.
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  97. # [19:01] <gsnedders> sayrer_: Yeah, as MikeSmith says, it needs to point to the style sheet. There is one option that exists for compatibility with the CSS WG's postprocessor which tries to work out what style sheet to use, but it's a really fucked up whacky algorithm.
  98. # [19:01] <sayrer_> gsnedders: is that -w3c-crazy?
  99. # [19:01] <gsnedders> (Basically, you don't want to use it.)
  100. # [19:01] <gsnedders> sayyeah
  101. # [19:01] <gsnedders> sayrer_: yeah, even
  102. # [19:02] <sayrer_> ok, what about the date substittutions?
  103. # [19:02] <gsnedders> sayrer_: They should work from [DATE]
  104. # [19:02] <sayrer_> oh, maybe my header file is a little jacked up
  105. # [19:02] <sayrer_> ok
  106. # [19:02] <gsnedders> (or [CDATE], or [YEAR])
  107. # [19:02] <gsnedders> sayrer_: Got a copy of it online anywhere?
  108. # [19:02] <sayrer_> not yet
  109. # [19:03] <gsnedders> [DATE: foo] should also work
  110. # [19:03] <sayrer_> installing lxml on OS X
  111. # [19:03] <sayrer_> not so fun
  112. # [19:03] <gsnedders> I think, again for compat, it allows [DATE, followed by anything, until ]
  113. # [19:03] <gsnedders> sayrer_: http://pimpmyspec.net exists too
  114. # [19:03] <sayrer_> I tried it, but it timed out
  115. # [19:03] * gsnedders blames jgraham
  116. # [19:03] <sayrer_> so I went for local anolis
  117. # [19:03] <sayrer_> it's working now
  118. # [19:04] <sayrer_> the recipe to build with macports libxml actually works
  119. # [19:04] <sayrer_> unlike every other page I found on the internet
  120. # [19:04] <gsnedders> heh
  121. # [19:04] <gsnedders> I remember having fun at TPAC getting it to work on Marcos's laptop
  122. # [19:05] <gsnedders> (Whereas I have always had macports installed on the computers I use)
  123. # [19:05] <sayrer_> I have macports, just not libxml
  124. # [19:05] <sayrer_> er, had
  125. # [19:05] <sayrer_> so it wasn't too bad
  126. # [19:05] <gsnedders> I have other things that have libxml as a dep :)
  127. # [19:06] <sayrer_> I've heard there are projects using it :)
  128. # [19:06] <gsnedders> Just a couple :)
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  131. # [19:08] <hober> Hixie: which major mode do you use for editing the spec?
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  138. # [19:39] <hsivonen> looks like the decision to pull the plug on the XHTML2 WG boosted HTML5 questions on stackoverflow
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  143. # [19:59] <Lachy> I wonder if that means there were people previously stiill unsure about whether XHTML2 was relevant or not?
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  149. # [20:31] <syp_> Hixie: about DOMTokenList, maybe the spec should mention how to deal with empty string tokens, like raising INVALID_CHARACTER_ERR.
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  165. # [22:51] <Hixie> hober: text-mode
  166. # [22:51] <Hixie> syp_: send mail please :-)
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  178. # [23:39] <Lachy> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/decoding-the-html-5-video-codec-debate.ars
  179. # [23:40] <Lachy> that's one of the best articles about the video codec issues I've read recently
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