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  1. # Session Start: Sat Mar 13 00:00:00 2010
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  12. # [00:21] * zcorpan finds http://www.robodesign.ro/mihai/blog/html5-demo-video-and-canvas
  13. # [00:24] <annevk> "I could move only a really small part of the code into a worker, and the performance penalty of sending the pixels in a message from the main thread to the worker thread is too significant. In the end, it runs quite slower than the script which does not use any web worker." seems relevant
  14. # [00:25] <ap> annevk: worked better for http://nerget.com/rayjs-mt/rayjs.html
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  38. # [01:27] <Philip`> Hixie: You forgot a comma after adding "Adam Hepton"
  39. # [01:27] <Hixie> thanks
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  50. # [01:39] <JonathanNeal> Phase #1 complete @ http://sandbox.thewikies.com/html5-experiments/phase-01.html woohoo
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  63. # [02:09] <karlcow> http://gist.github.com/330963
  64. # [02:09] <karlcow> Test for browser redirection handling WRT URI fragments, quick and dirty.
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  79. # [02:28] <zcorpan> Hixie: search for 'hidden' in http://my.opera.com/core/blog/2010/03/03/everything-you-need-to-know-about-html5-video-and-audio-2
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  108. # [04:33] <mpilgrim> any mac/safari users around?
  109. # [04:33] <mpilgrim> i need to test something and i'm not near any macs
  110. # [04:34] <miketaylr> im on a mac
  111. # [04:35] <miketaylr> w/ safari 4.0.4
  112. # [04:35] <mpilgrim> can you install ClickToFlash and test something for me?
  113. # [04:35] <miketaylr> sure, one sec
  114. # [04:35] <mpilgrim> http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/
  115. # [04:37] <miketaylr> k, installed
  116. # [04:38] <miketaylr> mua ha ha http://miketaylr.com/post/b8950f24.png
  117. # [04:39] <mpilgrim> ha
  118. # [04:39] <mpilgrim> ok, go to http://diveintomark.org/tmp/flashblock-detect.html
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  120. # [04:39] <mpilgrim> tell me if it says "a Flash blocker was detected"
  121. # [04:40] <ttepasse> Here: no flash blocker was detected.
  122. # [04:40] <miketaylr> it says: no Flash blocker was detected
  123. # [04:40] <mpilgrim> damn it
  124. # [04:40] <miketaylr> but, http://miketaylr.com/post/37e864ed.png
  125. # [04:40] <ttepasse> (Leopard, Safari 4.x, CtF 1.5.3)
  126. # [04:40] <miketaylr> looks blocked to me :p
  127. # [04:40] <mpilgrim> yeah
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  129. # [04:42] <mpilgrim> force-refresh now (shift+refresh button i think)
  130. # [04:43] <miketaylr> a Flash blocker was detected
  131. # [04:43] <miketaylr> \o/
  132. # [04:43] <mpilgrim> aha
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  134. # [04:47] <mpilgrim> ok, force-refresh again to make sure i didn't just break anything
  135. # [04:48] <miketaylr> nope, still good
  136. # [04:48] <mpilgrim> ok, final test
  137. # [04:48] <mpilgrim> go into the clicktoflash preferences (under your application menu IIRC) and whitelist diveintomark.org
  138. # [04:49] <mpilgrim> then force-refresh
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  140. # [04:49] <mpilgrim> should now say "no flash blocker was detected"
  141. # [04:49] <mpilgrim> (after about 5 seconds)
  142. # [04:50] <miketaylr> hmmm, still a Flash blocker was detected
  143. # [04:50] <mpilgrim> oh damn
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  145. # [04:55] <mpilgrim> oh bloody hell
  146. # [04:55] <mpilgrim> i know what's wrong
  147. # [04:55] <mpilgrim> but i don't know how to fix it
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  149. # [04:57] <mpilgrim> BOY THIS SURE WOULD BE EASIER IF WEBKIT WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT DOMATTRMODIFIED
  150. # [04:58] <miketaylr> >:|
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  152. # [05:01] <mpilgrim> ok, last try
  153. # [05:01] <mpilgrim> force-refresh again
  154. # [05:01] <mpilgrim> with diveintomark.org still whitelisted
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  158. # [05:04] <miketaylr> whitelisted, no Flash blocker was detected
  159. # [05:04] <mpilgrim> that's good
  160. # [05:04] <mpilgrim> now clear the whitelist
  161. # [05:04] <miketaylr> k
  162. # [05:04] <mpilgrim> and refresh
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  164. # [05:05] <miketaylr> a Flash blocker was detected
  165. # [05:05] <mpilgrim> HOORAY
  166. # [05:05] <miketaylr> , for great victory
  167. # [05:05] <mpilgrim> AFAIK, this is the world's first flashblock detector that works in 3 browsers
  168. # [05:06] <mpilgrim> er, world's first PURE JAVASCRIPT flashblock detector
  169. # [05:06] <miketaylr> oh, sweet
  170. # [05:06] <mpilgrim> thanks for your help
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  172. # [05:06] <miketaylr> np, sir
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  180. # [05:54] <mpilgrim> http://code.google.com/p/flashblockdetector/
  181. # [05:54] <mpilgrim> going to sleep now
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  254. # [13:21] <hsivonen> what's the motivating use case behind http://code.google.com/p/flashblockdetector/ ? analytics?
  255. # [13:24] <Lachy> I don't know for sure, but one use case might be for advertisers to serve an alternate image instead of flash if they can detect the user won't see the flash.
  256. # [13:25] <Philip`> "One good use of this would be to inform users that they need to opt-in to Flash for unobtrusive Flash enhancements (such as invisible audio players) to work on that page."
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  261. # [14:12] <hsivonen> I thought you were supposed to use <audio> for that in all the browsers that have supported Flash blockers
  262. # [14:14] <Philip`> Writing something once in <audio> and once in Flash seems like more work than writing it once in Flash and telling users to turn Flash on
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  269. # [14:42] * Topic is 'WHATWG: http://www.whatwg.org/ -- logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ -- stats: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html -- Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!'
  270. # [14:42] * Set by annevk42 on Mon Oct 19 22:03:06
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  275. # [15:55] <boblet> what’s the difference between rel="license" and <small> if the license info is linked?
  276. # [15:57] <boblet> aah, from the example under link type license it seems they’re complementary; wrap rel=license link in small
  277. # [15:57] <boblet> thanks :)
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