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  1. # Session Start: Sat May 08 00:00:00 2010
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  23. # [00:42] <AryehGregor> People who don't know what they're talking about I don't mind, but when they're hopelessly vague, unreasonably prolix, and smug at the same time, I have a limited attention span.
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  25. # [00:47] <TabAtkins> Yeah, that's why I kept my emails to him short so far. That's more than he deserves.
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  27. # [00:49] <AryehGregor> If he seemed willing to accept factual corrections, I'd be happy to give them, but we're just "complaining" about his awesome idea.
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  35. # [01:16] <Dashiva> "wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth."
  36. # [01:16] <Dashiva> And they wonder why people shy away...
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  38. # [01:25] <TabAtkins> Argh, dashiva. You know very well that it's to avoid interminable arguments with crackpots who claim that what they're saying is *clearly* true.
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  40. # [01:27] <Dashiva> In this case it's about refusing to remove an obviously false statement because one source made an incorrect claim
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  47. # [02:10] <othermaciej> Dashiva: which case?
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  64. # [03:26] <cardona507> can anyone recommend a good wordpress plugin to dynamically show my latest blog post on my homepage in a sidebar?
  65. # [03:27] <cardona507> oops - meant for web
  66. # [03:27] <cardona507> :)
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  236. # [15:32] <hsivonen> AryehGregor: I believe scriptless fallback to bitmap is possible for MathML-in-text/html:
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  238. # [15:33] <hsivonen> 1) emit each text node inside MathML as a CDATA section (ridiculously verbose)
  239. # [15:34] <hsivonen> 2) put a fallback <img> inside <annotation-xml>
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  241. # [15:34] <hsivonen> 3) in HTML5 browsers, hide the annotation-xml node using a selector that requires the node to be in the http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML namespace
  242. # [15:35] <hsivonen> Pros: No browsers sniffing, no script, fully cacheable
  243. # [15:35] <hsivonen> Cons: ridiculously verbose, fails in browsers that implement MathML-in-text/html parsing but fail to implement the MathML features used in the markup
  244. # [15:37] <hsivonen> but if Wikipedia deploys presentational MathML-in-text/html, non-Gecko browsers have a reason to get their MathML act together
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  273. # [17:51] <jps> hello Hixie how are you?
  274. # [17:52] <jps> it is great to see the HTML5 work on device
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  291. # [19:41] <annevk> anyone figured out the zip commands yet in my absense?
  292. # [19:41] <annevk> absence*
  293. # [19:41] <annevk> or tar
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  295. # [19:56] <annevk> not a whole lot of logs again
  296. # [19:56] <annevk> last minute mother day preparations? :)
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