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  33. # [02:06] <Cheery> in constructing response the websocket spec says: "Send two bytes 0x0D 0x0A (ASCII CRLF)."
  34. # [02:06] <Cheery> but I don't see how this makes any sense
  35. # [02:06] <Cheery> shouldn't it be four bytes?
  36. # [02:08] <Cheery> or wait.. yeah it's correct
  37. # [02:08] <Cheery> each fields ends to CRLF, so of course I only need to emit one when I end the header.
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  41. # [02:36] <Cheery> good. now I have everything needed for my first websocket app.
  42. # [02:36] <Cheery> except a working ubuntu-provided chromium. >:E
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  46. # [02:54] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: http://lint.brihten.com/html/
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  48. # [02:56] <MikeSmith> "Making sure your code looks good" .. options for "never omit closing tags", "quote attributes", etc.
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  56. # [03:16] <MikeSmith> hmm, http://lint.brihten.com/html/ doesn't actually seems to work.. getting message about "Cannot continue: HTML is not valid (Line 5: Illegal closing tag </head> for <a.length;){var>)"
  57. # [03:17] <MikeSmith> ah geez
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  59. # [03:17] <MikeSmith> "Cannot continue: HTML is not valid (Line 159: Illegal closing tag </script> for <").replace(/>/g,>)"
  60. # [03:17] <MikeSmith> seems to indicate it's trying to do some kind of regular-expression replacement
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  115. # [11:30] <Workshiva> MikeSmith: Or it just doesn't tokenize script contents properly
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  122. # [12:17] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: what parser is the lint based on?
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  168. # [15:01] <Workshiva> I never realized how convenient Chrome is. Not as a browser, but as a media player.
  169. # [15:01] <Workshiva> mp3, h264, aac, it's got all the stuff missing by default :)
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  171. # [15:19] <gsnedders> jgraham: Someone left their glasses at my flat. I think they're yours.
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  176. # [15:53] <bossss> I'm using google chrome v5, and I'm experiencing laggy html5 video? Is there a browser that can better render it? or a fix for these kinds of problems?
  177. # [15:55] <hsivonen> bossss: Firefox trunk
  178. # [15:55] <Rik`> (on windows ?)
  179. # [15:55] <bossss> thanks and yeah on windows
  180. # [15:56] <Rik`> actually, I was asking hsivonen
  181. # [15:57] <hsivonen> Rik`: I haven't really tested the D3D back end
  182. # [15:57] <hsivonen> (for full screen, that is)
  183. # [15:58] <hsivonen> Rik`: I said trunk, because I wasn't sure if beta 1 still had the media cache bug that made video suck after x megabytes
  184. # [15:58] <hsivonen> where x was 50, IIRC
  185. # [15:59] <hsivonen> hmm. or maybe less
  186. # [15:59] <hsivonen> anyway
  187. # [15:59] <Rik`> I haven't followed that bug
  188. # [15:59] <hsivonen> oops. whoa. the bug is still on trunk, too
  189. # [15:59] <kbrosnan> webm? or ogg?
  190. # [15:59] <hsivonen> kbrosnan: both
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  192. # [16:03] <hsivonen> anyway, video on Firefox trunk or beta 1 is pretty good if you don't hit the cace limit that breaks things
  193. # [16:06] <bossss> well i installed minefield and i'll see how it goes
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  195. # [16:07] <jgraham> gsnedders: They are
  196. # [16:07] <jgraham> Really other people would have noticed
  197. # [16:07] <jgraham> By e.g. not being able to see
  198. # [16:08] <jgraham> But since I can basically see anyway, it is n easy and common mistake for me to make
  199. # [16:09] <gsnedders> jgraham: You're not the only one to have made the mistake. :) I guess giving them to you tomorrow is enough?
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  201. # [16:09] <jgraham> Yeah
  202. # [16:09] <bossss> Didn't work >.< now I get a big X on the video
  203. # [16:10] <jgraham> gsnedders: Which day are you leaving again? The 29th?
  204. # [16:11] <gsnedders> jgraham: yeah
  205. # [16:11] <jgraham> So what are you doing on the 28th?
  206. # [16:11] <jgraham> We having a party?
  207. # [16:12] <hsivonen> gsnedders: are you leaving Opera? just leaving Sweden?
  208. # [16:13] <hsivonen> bossss: is the video in a patent-unencumbered format and served with the right Content-Type HTTP header?
  209. # [16:13] <bossss> these are the videos http://www.eseanews.com/index.php?s=downloads
  210. # [16:15] <hsivonen> bossss: you ext=webm urls redirect to .mp4
  211. # [16:16] <Rik`> and there's also a redirection : location: http://esea.net/premium
  212. # [16:16] <Rik`> (at least using curl -I)
  213. # [16:16] <hsivonen> s/you/your/
  214. # [16:17] <hsivonen> bossss: and the .mp4 URL is 404
  215. # [16:20] <bossss> thanks for the help - I'm just reading on a related site that a couple videos are corrupted, so it may not be my system
  216. # [16:21] <bossss> minefield gives me the X on the videos, chrome plays some of them
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  229. # [17:35] <micheil> Rik`: has that article you mentioned on hacks.mozilla.org been published yet?
  230. # [17:39] <micheil> Rik`: also, the current patch for websockets in bugzilla is a bit wrong, there's 4 readyStates
  231. # [17:39] <micheil> connecting, open, closing, closed
  232. # [17:43] <Ms2ger> micheil, there was a followup for that landed at the same time, IIRC
  233. # [17:44] <micheil> okay
  234. # [17:44] <micheil> I can only see the one patch
  235. # [17:45] <micheil> then again, no browsers' perfect
  236. # [17:45] <micheil> in Safari 5, if you create a connection, then close it, you'll get an error saying that there was an extra character sent
  237. # [17:46] <micheil> it seems to be the last \r\n on the response
  238. # [17:46] <micheil> if you leave it off, then google chrome won't connect at all.
  239. # [17:46] <titacgs> speaking of websockets... is there examples on how to implement this?
  240. # [17:47] <micheil> titacgs: serverside?
  241. # [17:47] <micheil> or?
  242. # [17:47] <micheil> or clientside?
  243. # [17:48] <micheil> (I have working examples of both, both written in javascript with help from node.js)
  244. # [17:48] <titacgs> both... I read the websocket API but I still don't get how ti get things done
  245. # [17:49] <titacgs> micheil, could you share them?
  246. # [17:49] <micheil> sure: http://github.com/miksago/node-websocket-server/blob/development/lib
  247. # [17:49] <micheil> and http://github.com/pgriess/node-websocket-client/blob/master/lib/websocket.js
  248. # [17:50] <titacgs> thanks! I'll give them a look right now!
  249. # [17:50] <micheil> I'm personally not a fan of peter's (pgriess) coding style, but, eh'
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  266. # [20:37] <AryehGregor> I didn't realize that <video> was only proposed three years ago. I thought it was part of HTML5 since the early days.
  267. # [20:38] <AryehGregor> That makes it cooler that it's actually taking off.
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  271. # [21:26] <Rik`> micheil: no, I've done some other testing and I aslo need to figure out on which server to put a demo
  272. # [21:29] <Rik`> so that it can at least handle the traffic
  273. # [21:38] <AryehGregor> So it looks like as of April, three of the six hit counters here deemed IE to be a minority browser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
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  278. # [22:04] <micheil> Rik`: okay
  279. # [22:04] <Rik`> micheil: but don't worry, I'll ping you ;)
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  286. # [22:49] <micheil> Rik`: okay, cool, thanks :)
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  294. # [23:18] <micheil> Rik`: do you know if firefox uses a different version of websockets to draft76?
  295. # [23:18] <Rik`> it should support draft76, why ?
  296. # [23:18] <micheil> I'm being told by someone that it's actually a different version, just wanting to check the information
  297. # [23:18] <Rik`> I've seen some commits here and there around that, so it might not be perfect
  298. # [23:19] <micheil> because if I can pre-empt the release of firefox 4 with websockets, then I will.
  299. # [23:22] <Rik`> micheil: the master bug is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=websocket
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  301. # [23:23] <Rik`> micheil: "pre-empt" ? I don't understand this word
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  303. # [23:24] <Rik`> micheil: for the 3 or 4 demos I've made, your server implementation works
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  305. # [23:35] <micheil> Rik`: pre-empt, as in, make sure node-websocket-server is automatically compatible with firefox's implementation, before it's public
  306. # [23:38] <Rik`> I don't know why it wouldn't be draft76
  307. # [23:38] <micheil> niether
  308. # [23:38] <Rik`> iirc, Mozilla pushed for this revision so…
  309. # [23:39] <Rik`> as I told you, there was the Big endian problem with a previous version of your server but it's ok now
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