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- # [15:40] <matthiasr> about r2220 <http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/commit-watchers-whatwg.org/2008/001395.html> - I don't think this is right. -wap-input-format replaces <input format=, not inputmode=
- # [15:41] <matthiasr> at least if http://www.developershome.com/wap/wcss/wcss_tutorial.asp?page=inputExtension2 is correct
- # [15:41] <matthiasr> inputmode is about something else, namely initializing the input on mobile/restricted devices
- # [15:42] <matthiasr> e.g. http://www.w3.org/2004/CDF/TestSuite/WICD_CDR_WP1/test-xhtml-basic11.xhtml
- # [15:44] <matthiasr> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms/#mode-syntax
- # [15:47] <matthiasr> or have I gotten it all horribly wrong?
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- # [17:14] <MikeSmith> matthiasr: -wap-input-format also is about initializing the input on keyboard-less mobile devices
- # [17:14] <MikeSmith> e.g., ones that only have 5-way keypads
- # [17:14] <MikeSmith> but it's also about specifying the datatype of the input
- # [17:14] <MikeSmith> -wap-input-format is basically poorly designed and overengineered
- # [17:15] <matthiasr> but I don't think it covers all cases of inputmode
- # [17:15] <MikeSmith> nothing covers all cases of inputmode
- # [17:15] <MikeSmith> but it doesn't matter, but no browsers actually support inputmode anyway
- # [17:16] <MikeSmith> inputmode is a pipe dream that only exists in a spec
- # [17:16] <MikeSmith> there are not production browsers that implement support for it
- # [17:16] <matthiasr> :(
- # [17:17] <MikeSmith> for better or worse, -wap-input-format is the only thing that's actually supported in browsers that are actually preinstalled on keyboard-less mobile devices
- # [17:17] <matthiasr> (and there will never be, if it's not specified)
- # [17:17] <MikeSmith> inputmode is specified
- # [17:17] <MikeSmith> in XHTML 1.1
- # [17:17] <MikeSmith> the reason that it's not been implemented is that there has been no market demand for it
- # [17:18] <MikeSmith> it's not for lack of people trying to convince browser vendors to implement it
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- # [17:23] <matthiasr> so it's basically been removed because no implementation cared about it anyway?
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- # [18:43] <MikeSmith> matthiasr: it wasn't removed.. it was part of XHTML 1.1, not XHTML 1.0
- # [18:45] <MikeSmith> and if they had been using the current criteria we are using now for determining when some feature can be included in an Recommendation, inputmode comes nowhere even close
- # [18:46] <MikeSmith> that is, lacking any implementations, it would not be included in a Recommendation
- # [18:46] <MikeSmith> lacking any an test cases that demonstrate it worked interoperably, it would never have made it out of CR
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- # [19:35] <henrikbjorn> i have a dl where the dt's arent the most descriptive in the world, and my solution atm. for accessability is to hide there more descriptive part of the dt in a span. But i was wondering if theres a attribute or aria or something i could use for the more descriptive text
- # [19:36] <henrikbjorn> or maybe the title attribute is enough ?
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- # [22:42] <abernier> hi
- # [22:43] <abernier> is a header necessarily within a section element, or can I set a header inside a <li> ?
- # [22:46] <abernier> In a resume, I've got an 'Experiences" section where I list different experiences in a <ol>, and for each of them, I've got a title (job) and a date so I'd like to group them into a <header> but I wonder if it is correct doing this directly within the <li> ?
- # [22:49] <nimbupani> a header is necessarily within a sectioning element.
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- # [22:49] <abernier> nimbupani: ok, thanks
- # [22:49] <nimbupani> abernier: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/content-models.html#sectioning-content
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- # [22:51] <abernier> so for work experiences : <ol><li><section><header>{job title} {date}</header>{description}</section></li>...</ol> seems ok?
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- # [22:58] <abernier> and is there something to markup a range of dates, eg: from April 08 to may 09 ?
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