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  48. # [04:13] <aho> *scratches head*... :first-child is css level 2 and :last-child is css level 3? how the f- did that happen?
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  51. # [04:24] <MikeSmith> aho: because CSS spec development is kind of like particle physics
  52. # [04:24] <MikeSmith> none of it's intuitive
  53. # [04:25] <MikeSmith> normal physical laws break down around the "singularity" of CSS standards process
  54. # [04:26] <MikeSmith> you need some special math to understand it all
  55. # [04:26] <MikeSmith> that's actually what they created MathML for
  56. # [04:26] <MikeSmith> to have a way to mark up the bizarre mathematics underlying the CSS work
  57. # [04:33] <nessy> lol
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  62. # [04:44] <aho> ye, i guess that's the most logical explanation
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  70. # [05:18] <Hixie> aho: :first-child is a lot easier to implement
  71. # [05:18] <aho> how so?
  72. # [05:19] <aho> there is some element... and all its children... the dom api provides a pointer to the first and the last one
  73. # [05:20] <jcranmer> :first-child doesn't mess up incremental rendering
  74. # [05:20] <Hixie> because as you're parsing a document, the first child is set once
  75. # [05:20] <Hixie> the last child changes continuously
  76. # [05:20] <aho> well, dom manipulations have the same effect
  77. # [05:20] <Hixie> yes
  78. # [05:21] <Hixie> and early implementations didn't handle those at all well :-)
  79. # [05:21] <jcranmer> browsers will ignore dom manipulations if they are two hard :-)
  80. # [05:21] <aho> ye, :first-child is static in ie7
  81. # [05:22] <aho> and all :first-child, :last-child, :nth-child etc stuff was broken in firefox for ages :>
  82. # [05:23] <aho> #73586 has been fixed on 2008-02-18
  83. # [05:23] <aho> almost took 7 years :>
  84. # [05:24] <aho> well, i'm just tired of sticking first and last classes everywhere
  85. # [05:29] <aho> (they are just a bit of a nuisance for that odd stuff i'm trying to figure out right now... it's some sort of by-contract stuff for the html and css parts of oocss modules.)
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  120. # [10:36] <cardona507_> did the geolocation implementation in firefox change?
  121. # [10:37] <cardona507_> for some reason my browser is asking me if a page can get my location but then it isn't actually happening
  122. # [10:37] <cardona507_> happening to anyone else?
  123. # [10:37] <cardona507_> example: http://nko-trisomic-propus.heroku.com/
  124. # [10:37] <cardona507_> works in chrome - not if FF
  125. # [10:38] <cardona507_> also works in safari
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  127. # [10:39] <cardona507_> works on my Android EVO -
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  129. # [10:41] <annevk> wfm in Minefield
  130. # [10:41] <cardona507_> hmmm - I didn't check minefield yet
  131. # [10:42] <cardona507_> oddly enough it isn't working on my ipod touch - it isn't even asking if it can get my location
  132. # [10:43] <cardona507_> wow! minefield is on acid!
  133. # [10:43] <cardona507_> yeah it worked in minefield
  134. # [10:43] <cardona507_> that is a good sign
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  146. # [12:07] <cardona507_> I am creating a small geolocation app for the nodejs knockout - http://nko-trisomic-propus.heroku.com/ -when I run this function http://gist.github.com/556165 it stores the epoch as the key and the object as the value—but when I try to retrieve the object I am getting [object Object]. Firefox is acting wacky so I can't test it right now—so this might just be a webkit thing. Is it not cool to have nested key/values in localSt
  147. # [12:08] <cardona507_> the code is live on the first link if you want to check it out - just look at the local storage in the webkit developer toolkit thing
  148. # [12:09] <cardona507_> each time you refresh the page it will store a new object with your lat and long in the localStorage
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  153. # [12:44] <Dashiva> http://twitter.com/bleroy/status/22411429143
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  236. # [20:17] * AryehGregor discovers that there's no way in DNS to say "aryeh.name's A record should be the same as twcenter.net's, like a CNAME, but the MX record should be different"
  237. # [20:17] <AryehGregor> I guess this is why people use www.
  238. # [20:19] <Workshiva> Or just write the same IP twice
  239. # [20:19] <AryehGregor> Yes, but then I have to change it in two places when it changes.
  240. # [20:19] <AryehGregor> Oh well.
  241. # [20:20] * AryehGregor is waiting four hours for the change to propagate before he can set up mail for his domain
  242. # [20:22] <hdhoang0> my DNS hoster automatically updates A with the same address if I update one of them
  243. # [20:22] <AryehGregor> I actually have the two domains on different name servers, so that's not going to work for me.
  244. # [20:22] <AryehGregor> I'll just suffer.
  245. # [20:23] <AryehGregor> Oops, I sent a message to www-style from the wrong address. Sigh.
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  248. # [20:30] <cardona507_> is there a method for getting all of the key/values in localStorage or do I need to somehow loop through?
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  250. # [20:34] <AryehGregor> Seems like you have to loop.
  251. # [20:34] <cardona507_> loopty loop
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  265. # [22:16] <matjas> How to use a cache manifest file to make sure the index page is cached? All the examples I can find suggest adding index.html or index.php to the manifest file, but I don't want UAs to request those files, just the root URL /. Is this possible at all?
  266. # [22:16] <matjas> Can I just add a line saying '/'?
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  274. # [22:51] <espadrine> matjas: The single character (/) will match any page on your site, not just the home page.
  275. # [22:52] <matjas> espadrine: Good to know, thanks. So is it possible to match only the index page (without using index.(php|html)
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  283. # [23:42] <annevk> matjas, you want /
  284. # [23:42] <annevk> matjas, if that is the URL you are using
  285. # [23:43] <matjas> annevk: it is. so what espadrine said ^ is not true?
  286. # [23:43] <annevk> right
  287. # [23:43] <annevk> what he said is true for the FALLBACK section
  288. # [23:43] <annevk> but that is something different
  289. # [23:44] <annevk> see also: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete/offline.html
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  293. # [23:54] <annevk> "But the problem is that it is very difficult to measure the VERY NARROW
  294. # [23:54] <annevk> (but widely applicable to polymath, e.g. economics, philosophy, etc) area
  295. # [23:54] <annevk> of IQ where I may be off the charts, because my verbal and visual cortex
  296. # [23:54] <annevk> is only about 115 - 120 IQ. I am not genius at visual pattern matching. In
  297. # [23:54] <annevk> the area of visualizing mathematical relationships, the answers just come
  298. # [23:54] <annevk> "But the other problem is measuring this capability
  299. # [23:54] <annevk> is that I am not genius in loading the data points nor communicating the
  300. # [23:54] <annevk> result. Once I get the data points loaded, then the solution is instant.
  301. # [23:54] <annevk> So it is extremely difficult to both measure my IQ and for me to
  302. # [23:54] <annevk> communicate something once I visualize it. I get easily frustrated with
  303. # [23:55] <AryehGregor> o_O
  304. # [23:55] <AryehGregor> Where's that from? Please tell me it's not from a standards list.
  305. # [23:56] <annevk> it continues
  306. # [23:56] <annevk> "I don't know when I started to read, but I do know that I could build
  307. # [23:56] <annevk> things with my hands and entertain adults in conversation as an infant. At
  308. # [23:56] <annevk> age of 5, I observed my very high IQ father (big time attorney for oil
  309. # [23:56] <annevk> companies) and his buddies trying to build a wood platform in the back of
  310. # [23:56] <annevk> VW bus. Apparently they were struggling with the design. I gave them the
  311. # [23:57] <annevk> "In college, my roommate was amazed that I built a
  312. # [23:57] <annevk> huge bunk bed for us, simply by walking up to a pile of wood and start
  313. # [23:57] <annevk> sawing and hammering away at full speed without pause. Within a couple of
  314. # [23:57] <annevk> hours we were finished. I didn't even have to think about how to design
  315. # [23:57] <annevk> it. He reminded me in email the other day after I hadn't heard from him
  316. # [23:58] <annevk> it's from hybi, by the illustrious Shelby Moore
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