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  129. # [09:27] <hsivonen> Hixie: you left XForms in the abstract of XBL2
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  145. # [10:19] <annevk> hsivonen, doesn't really matter does it?
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  147. # [10:35] <hsivonen> annevk: depends on whether people think that's a use case that has to be supported and start sending in requirements along those lines
  148. # [10:37] <annevk> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/11/science-stephen-hawking-brian-cox is an interesting read
  149. # [10:38] <annevk> hsivonen, mkay...
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  173. # [13:18] <karlcow> http://lint.brihten.com/html/
  174. # [13:19] <karlcow> >HTML Lint is a tool that makes sure your code looks good. While XHTML was very strict with syntax HTML 5 is more lenient like previous versions of HTML, which means keeping consistent code styles will become more difficult. Validating is not good enough anymore.
  175. # [13:19] <karlcow> --- http://lint.brihten.com/html/help
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  241. # [18:57] <llrcombs> I've just noticed a flaw in the registerContentHandler API
  242. # [18:58] <llrcombs> it'd likely choke on files downloaded from servers you have to login to
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  263. # [21:01] * hober is working on the ISSUE-41 null CP
  264. # [21:03] <hober> I'm trying to find use-cases for DE that can't be met by HTML's existing extension mechanisms.
  265. # [21:04] <Philip`> Isn't that a job for the non-null CPs?
  266. # [21:05] <hober> Oddly, the non-null CPs don't do that
  267. # [21:05] <hober> they describe classes of extensions, but don't provide motivating use-cases for such extension classes
  268. # [21:05] <webben> hober: "existing" - does that exclude microdata and RDFa?
  269. # [21:06] <hober> anyway, I thought there would at least be use-cases not currently addressed that I could at least say "and it's a good thing that HTML doesn't address them"
  270. # [21:06] <hober> webben: it doesn't exclude other WG documents, no
  271. # [21:07] <webben> Hmm. What are the other change proposals asking for then? namespaced elements?
  272. # [21:07] <hober> yup
  273. # [21:08] <webben> hmm... how about something like including musical markup inline in HTML just like SVG and Math?
  274. # [21:09] <hober> is the expectation that browsers implement rendering such markup in some kind of useful way?
  275. # [21:09] <hober> if so, then the people speccing said markup should coordinate with the people working on HTML
  276. # [21:09] <webben> well, I guess in a DE model, browsers that implement that extension would, yeah.
  277. # [21:10] <webben> And, yeah, you can make the counterargument that it would be better for browsermakers etc. to come together and agree a standard.
  278. # [21:11] <webben> But it is a use-case that's not served out of the box - possibly 3d markup and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Markup_Language would be further examples.
  279. # [21:12] <webben> it's not that hard to think of ways to extend HTML, it's just a question of whether allowing incorporation of arbitrary elements is the way to do that, I guess.
  280. # [21:31] <hober> this is what I have so far: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/User:Eoconnor/ISSUE-41 comments, feedback, etc. very welcome
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  283. # [21:48] <hsivonen> webben: those are theoretical until a browser vendor shows interest in implementing one of those vocabs
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  294. # [22:11] <annevk> hmm, so now we could switch html5lib to public domain
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  304. # [22:55] <annevk> hober, drop "quite" from "quite-complex" :)
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  312. # [23:04] <hober> ok
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