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  68. # [01:53] <Philip`> Oh, it's October already?
  69. # [01:53] <Philip`> For some reason I thought that was tomorrow
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  72. # [01:54] <Philip`> I guess that's why everyone's been filing bugs today
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  78. # [02:01] <Aleoss> Phillip`: Depends where you live. Where I'm from (Canada) it is still September. You are obviously from somewhere in Europe or Asia.
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  87. # [02:45] <WillPittenger> I created a HTML5 audio tag on the fly with JS. Can I assume that if I change the SRC attribute, the browser will reset it? (That is, play the new URL?)
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  93. # [03:01] <WillPittenger> Well, never mind.
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  131. # [05:22] <dominicdinada> question about some http banners etc?
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  134. # [05:37] <ashaw> The am implementing big integer multiplication in javascript and was wondering if there was a way to speed this code, as it runs much slower than other native code converted to JS.
  135. # [05:37] <ashaw> http://pastie.org/1192649
  136. # [05:42] <ashaw> hello
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  180. # [09:38] <hsivonen> whoa! JF requested adding DRM to <video>. How sad.
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  182. # [09:44] <hsivonen> the allegation made in http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 is even more obviously BS
  183. # [09:46] <annevk> I wonder what the idea behind those bugs were
  184. # [09:48] <annevk> http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=541 -- WebP analysis
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  195. # [10:06] <hsivonen> If Google wants to unseat JPEG, why don't they support JPEG XR? Is JPEG XR not royalty-free?
  196. # [10:07] <annevk> JPEG XR is per Wikipedia
  197. # [10:07] <hsivonen> By default, I'm rather skeptical of all attempts to unseat JPEG.
  198. # [10:08] <hsivonen> because the claims made about JPEG 2000 turned out to be bogus when I tried to verify the claims myself
  199. # [10:10] <hsivonen> (that is, when I tried to verify them with shipped software which was what authors could have realistically used)
  200. # [10:11] <hsivonen> (I know nothing about the theoretical potential of JPEG 2000 compared to the theoretical potential of JPEG)
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  208. # [10:42] <jgraham> Well happy bugspam day, everyone
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  210. # [10:45] <annevk> it's also mailman day
  211. # [10:45] <annevk> double joy
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  213. # [10:45] <hsivonen> jgraham: I felt pretty accomplished when I got through bugmail before lunch
  214. # [10:46] <jgraham> hsivonen: Wow, dedication
  215. # [10:46] * annevk sometimes forgets hsivonen is an hour ahead
  216. # [10:46] <jgraham> I'm not even sure I knew that
  217. # [10:47] <jgraham> Finland is a different timezone?
  218. # [10:47] <hsivonen> jgraham: yes, Sweden and Spain can be in the same time zone but somehow Portugal and Finland can't
  219. # [10:48] <jgraham> Fun
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  221. # [10:48] <hsivonen> apparently *that* would strech things too much
  222. # [10:49] <jgraham> Arguably its bizzare that Spain isn't using GMT
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  226. # [10:56] <annevk> or the UK is bizarre
  227. # [10:58] <jgraham> Hmm? Since the timezones are centered on the UK we must be right by definition :)
  228. # [11:01] <hsivonen> l'heure de Paris won the market share battle
  229. # [11:02] <hsivonen> (cue Tintin and using Paris for the zero meridian, too, for epic incompatibility)
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  241. # [11:42] <annevk> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46936 -- this would at least decouple them somewhat more from DOM Level 3 Core
  242. # [11:42] <annevk> euh, Web DOM Core
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  250. # [12:11] <Rich_Clark> Hey Guys, who can tell me about <s>? Does the 's' stand for 'strike-through'?
  251. # [12:12] <Peter`> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-s-element
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  253. # [12:12] <Rich_Clark> and both <s> and <strike> were 'absent' from HTML5 so why is it back in?
  254. # [12:13] <Rich_Clark> @Peter seen that yeah but I wondering what the 's' stands for
  255. # [12:13] <Peter`> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9429
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  257. # [12:14] <Peter`> sorry for just giving links, searching around myself
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  259. # [12:16] <Peter`> it seems to just be <s>trike
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  264. # [12:20] <Rich_Clark> yeah, thanks peter
  265. # [12:24] <annevk> maybe validators should warn about UTF-16 in general
  266. # [12:25] <annevk> I also fail to see how http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10890 is an "i18n issue" -- seems more like a preference of someone
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  268. # [12:33] <hsivonen> annevk: I'd be OK with warning about UTF-16
  269. # [12:33] <hsivonen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599320 for the latest UTF-16 awesomeness
  270. # [12:36] <MikeSmith> do we have a "don't use UTF-16 on the Web" FAQ around somewhere?
  271. # [12:37] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: instead, the i18n group maintains advice pages on w3.org that say how to use UTF-16
  272. # [12:37] <hsivonen> which to a reader implies that using UTF-16 is OK
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  274. # [12:38] <annevk> MikeSmith, I wrote up http://annevankesteren.nl/2009/09/utf-8-reasons at some point
  275. # [12:39] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: yeah, I know… I need to talk with RIchard Ishida about this
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  277. # [12:42] <annevk> hsivonen, would fixing that not break something else? I guess it wouldn't since UTF-16 is always identified properly
  278. # [12:42] <annevk> hsivonen, I guess that's another case where you want to replace UTF-16 with UTF-8 or some such...
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  282. # [12:56] <hsivonen> annevk: I don't know if fixing the inheritance bug would break something else, but clearly it's always dangerous to have a tentative encoding that's not a rough ASCII superset
  283. # [12:57] <hsivonen> annevk: though we can get into that situation with chardet, too
  284. # [12:57] <hsivonen> but if chardet sniffs something as UTF-16, chances are it really is
  285. # [12:58] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: did I perform the escalation mechanics correctly in http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10589 ?
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  289. # [13:15] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: yep
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  291. # [13:28] <hsivonen> whoa. It seems I'm empowered to create a new issue. Should I just go ahead and do it myself?
  292. # [13:29] <hsivonen> the Decision Process says I'm allowed to do it
  293. # [13:30] <hsivonen> Done
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  298. # [13:38] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: yeah, DIY tracker-issue creation is the preferred means
  299. # [13:40] <MikeSmith> the TrackerRequest keyword mechanism was originally just intended for people who aren't members of the group
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  310. # [14:07] <MikeSmith> eighty4:
  311. # [14:07] <MikeSmith> oops
  312. # [14:08] <MikeSmith> (ignore that -- fat-fingered)
  313. # [14:09] <annevk> why has http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html such a confusing style sheet?
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  315. # [14:09] <annevk> i.e. every third row colored...
  316. # [14:09] <annevk> I thought the important rows were colored for a moment
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  319. # [14:11] <MikeSmith> annevk: dunno, but Sam would seem to be the one to ask
  320. # [14:12] <MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/html5/status/status.css
  321. # [14:12] <annevk> yeah, that's how I found out
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  324. # [14:16] <hsivonen> it's now been two months since the versioning poll closed...
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  326. # [14:18] <annevk> maybe they felt uncomfortable making a decision with Larry on vacation
  327. # [14:19] <hsivonen> dunno.
  328. # [14:19] <annevk> me neither
  329. # [14:20] <hsivonen> but it seems to me it was more relevant to have the poll open while Larry wasn't on vacation
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  331. # [14:20] <hsivonen> I mean, after the Chairs hand down a Decision, you aren't supposed to discuss anymore
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  342. # [14:33] <annevk> So how did the dragon get so big so fast in Sintel?
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  362. # [14:50] <jcranmer> ignore that
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  365. # [14:55] <loucapo> hey everyone, anyone here have experience with cross origin xmlhttp in FF?
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  368. # [14:58] <loucapo> for some reason the code that annevk helped me work through the other day is functional in chrome and safari, but I cant get Firefox working…even in the nightlies.
  369. # [15:00] <Rik`> loucapo: have you checked https://developer.mozilla.org/En/HTTP_Access_Control ?
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  371. # [15:00] <loucapo> yup
  372. # [15:00] <loucapo> i am not see anything obviously different
  373. # [15:05] <annevk> loucapo, Firefox has a bug
  374. # [15:06] <annevk> loucapo, as I expected
  375. # [15:06] <annevk> loucapo, see the patches from sicking in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597301 which hopefully means the issues will be resolved before Firefox 4
  376. # [15:10] <annevk> that contenteditable test suite is pretty sweet
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  379. # [15:21] <loucapo> annevk, interesting and thanks for that. i guess its 200 only for Firefox for the time being.
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  411. # [16:31] <annevk> hmm, even Denon receivers require firmware updates these days
  412. # [16:31] <annevk> takes bloody long too
  413. # [16:32] <annevk> and lets not discuss the UI
  414. # [16:32] <zcorpan> do receivers have a web browser these days?
  415. # [16:34] <annevk> it actually comes with support for some web services, but I believe it is all hardcoded and terrible (haven't played with it yet)
  416. # [16:34] <annevk> supposedly Live.fm, Flickr, various internet radio stations, and some other stuff
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  418. # [16:39] <annevk> still updating
  419. # [16:39] <annevk> it has said 01min for a long time now
  420. # [16:40] <annevk> though something is still moving, I guess that's supposed to tell me it hasn't crashed yet
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  427. # [16:49] <annevk> ooh, it's on again
  428. # [16:49] <annevk> and started playing music -- scared me
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  430. # [16:53] <jgraham> flickr integration? What does that do?
  431. # [16:54] <virtuelv> this thread is depressing
  432. # [16:54] <virtuelv> http://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/dl2ek/til_what_exactly_xhtml_is/
  433. # [16:54] <virtuelv> «Unfortunately, Ian Hickson is persistent and insane»
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  435. # [16:56] <Philip`> Change that to "Fortunately" and I'd agree
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  450. # [17:11] <zcorpan> TabAtkins: actually i think the spec says <track kind=descriptions> means synthesized audio
  451. # [17:12] <zcorpan> or if the kind="" was called somethign else
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  453. # [17:22] <jgraham> virtuelv: Unfortunately, random people on the internet can't be relied on to correlate their strength of their assertions with their actual domain knowledge
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  471. # [18:28] <TabAtkins> zcorpan: Ah, right you are.
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  488. # [18:58] <mven> TITLE: Chile miners request female trainer
  489. # [18:59] <TabAtkins> ...?_?
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  491. # [18:59] <mven> IMAGE: Group pic of Chile miners with no shirts and the pic is waist up
  492. # [18:59] <mven> crap
  493. # [18:59] <mven> sorry wrong channel :(
  494. # [18:59] <TabAtkins> kk
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  496. # [19:04] <Aleoss> That reminds me of that time I put a dos-look-alike script URL to #linux. :P
  497. # [19:05] <mven> heh
  498. # [19:05] <Aleoss> If anyone is wondering what I'm describing.. http://aleoss.ath.cx/domain/
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  500. # [19:06] <Aleoss> They were annoyed but not too annoyed since it is the latest HTML and is completely valid.
  501. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> annevk, you don't seem to handle getComputedStyle(null)
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  504. # [19:08] <annevk> Ms2ger, that depends on Web IDL
  505. # [19:08] <annevk> Ms2ger, or you mean it does something special?
  506. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> You mean you're waiting for [NoNull]?
  507. # [19:10] <annevk> the new plan is to require ? if you want null
  508. # [19:10] <annevk> rather than having host objects always be nullable
  509. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> Really? That kinda sucks
  510. # [19:10] <annevk> it's way better imo
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  521. # [19:35] <mven> wow. webp shows some pretty good compression
  522. # [19:36] <mven> http://code.google.com/speed/webp/gallery.html
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  524. # [19:39] <Aleoss> mven: I am not sure what that site is trying to say, I looked at the file sizes and the .jpg is smaller than the .png
  525. # [19:40] <Aleoss> Like where did they bull these sizes from? They're made up or something.
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  528. # [19:40] <mven> yea i'm a bit confused. but i think they state its in a png container right now since browsers cant support webp
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  530. # [19:41] <mven> does a container create that much overhead to explain the added kb ?
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  532. # [19:41] <annevk> PNG is losless
  533. # [19:41] <annevk> so way bigger
  534. # [19:41] <mven> ah right
  535. # [19:41] <Aleoss> That is correct.
  536. # [19:42] <mven> how long before IE supports RIFF
  537. # [19:42] * mven chuckles
  538. # [19:42] <Aleoss> Even if IE does go and support it, nobody will use it for years because companies use older browsers of IE.
  539. # [19:43] <Philip`> Microsoft was the originator of RIFF
  540. # [19:43] <mven> yea. lots of corps still using IE6. sucks.
  541. # [19:43] <mven> well IBM and MSFT developed it
  542. # [19:44] <mven> but doesn't necessarily predict it would have support in IE. I couldn't find anything on google for a browser compatability list.
  543. # [19:44] <Hixie> AryehGregor: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10345 are these all "limited to only non-negative numbers" or should i test it carefully?
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  545. # [19:45] <Philip`> mven: It doesn't make sense to support RIFF anyway
  546. # [19:45] <Philip`> It's more like a system for writing file formats than a format itself
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  548. # [19:45] <TabAtkins> RIFF is like XML?
  549. # [19:45] <mven> I dunno. I think the savings they claim might be justified to support it.
  550. # [19:48] <Hixie> wow
  551. # [19:48] <Hixie> <applet> in gecko turns into a new DOM Node that isn't an Element
  552. # [19:48] <Hixie> it's a [Java Package]
  553. # [19:48] <Hixie> that's messed up
  554. # [19:49] <annevk> DOM Core is gonna treat that as a bug :)
  555. # [19:51] <mven> is there any book out there that will explain the DOM more than what wikipedia tries to do?
  556. # [19:51] <mven> *good*
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  562. # [20:00] <TabAtkins> What aspect of DOM do you need? Conceptual, implementation, how-to-use-in-a-browser?
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  564. # [20:03] <karlcow> mven: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM
  565. # [20:03] <karlcow> http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/traversing-the-dom/
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  567. # [20:03] <mven> karlcow: nice thanks
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  585. # [21:02] <Hixie> any opinions on adding a dropzone attribute to complement the draggable attribute? http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10712
  586. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> Sounds pretty nice
  587. # [21:03] <Hixie> maybe dropzone="mime type list"?
  588. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> Not that I've ever used drag and drop
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  590. # [21:05] <variable> Hixie, and how would you wildcard (ie to upload anything)?
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  592. # [21:05] <Hixie> if you want to accept files you'd set it to Files
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  594. # [21:06] <Hixie> i guess
  595. # [21:06] <Hixie> hmm
  596. # [21:07] <variable> I'd like to see a dropzone attribute - but I duno about the mime-types part
  597. # [21:07] <variable> erm - would Files match the mime type of all files?
  598. # [21:07] <Hixie> the mime type right now would not match the files mime types
  599. # [21:07] <Hixie> only setData() mime types
  600. # [21:07] <Hixie> we could just say that if you set dropzone then you'll accept anything at all, and if you want to filter you need to use script still
  601. # [21:09] <variable> Perhaps upon drop a certain callback could be run - and if it returns true; the drop is done and if it returns false; it isn't?
  602. # [21:09] <Hixie> we already have all the callbacks
  603. # [21:09] <variable> and the callback could access mime-type/file-size/whatever other data it might need?
  604. # [21:09] <Hixie> that's already done
  605. # [21:10] <variable> :-)
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  623. # [22:32] <TabAtkins> Hixie: I really need to play with drag-and-drop, but it sounds potentially interesting.
  624. # [22:32] <TabAtkins> Hixie: I do know that DnD is pretty sucky to work with right now, because I was helping some people get it working a few weeks ago at a code campout and everyone agreed that it was confusing and stupid.
  625. # [22:39] <annevk> Ms2ger, innerHTML is not in DOM Range
  626. # [22:40] <Ms2ger> No, it isn't
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  633. # [23:02] <Migs> wtf is whatwg?
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  635. # [23:03] <Migs> herro?
  636. # [23:03] <daekano> what?
  637. # [23:03] <aho> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatwg
  638. # [23:03] <Philip`> Migs: It's a group of people who sometimes write HTML5
  639. # [23:03] <daekano> >.>
  640. # [23:03] <variable> Migs, http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ
  641. # [23:03] <Aleoss> King John Il?
  642. # [23:03] <Migs> oic
  643. # [23:03] <Migs> howtf do I join?
  644. # [23:03] <Philip`> You can subscribe to the mailing list via pointers on the web site
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  646. # [23:04] <Migs> cool thanks
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  648. # [23:04] <jgraham> It should not be confused with whattf which is quite different
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  650. # [23:04] <aho> wtf? :>
  651. # [23:04] <aho> yea... exactly
  652. # [23:04] <Aleoss> What about whatts?
  653. # [23:05] <jgraham> Test Suite?
  654. # [23:05] <Philip`> Nor should it be confused with Watto, as he is a Toydarian and not a web standards group
  655. # [23:05] <jgraham> Or Waldo, who was a character in a Velvet Underground song
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  657. # [23:06] <Aleoss> No way, "The Shit"
  658. # [23:06] <Ms2ger> Or, for that matter, Wally. Where is he, actually?
  659. # [23:09] <variable> jgraham, they found waldo!?
  660. # [23:10] <gsnedders> variable: Well, only after cutting him in two
  661. # [23:11] <jgraham> Hence the past tense
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  663. # [23:12] <jgraham> It's Wally we can't find
  664. # [23:12] <gsnedders> jgraham: Indeed, silly American's tihnking he is called Waldo
  665. # [23:12] <variable> https://thefullfool.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/wheres-waldo1.jpg -> I can't find waldo
  666. # [23:13] <variable> he /is/ called waldo
  667. # [23:13] <gsnedders> variable: It's called Where's Wally in the original language :P
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  669. # [23:14] <jgraham> variable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where's_Wally%3F
  670. # [23:15] <variable> thats silly
  671. # [23:15] <variable> ""On Thursday 2 April 2009, 1,052 students, alumni, and members of the community at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA, captured the Guinness World Record for the largest gathering of people dressed as Waldo""
  672. # [23:15] <variable> heh
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  686. # [23:56] <zcorpan> annevk: maybe we should drop the 'Web' from 'Web DOM Core'
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