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  61. # [03:47] <youdontmeanmuch> hola, i'm working on a desktop application using web technologies using something like titanium desktop / adobe air
  62. # [03:48] <youdontmeanmuch> so i know that i have the most recent browsers (mostly webkit)
  63. # [03:48] <youdontmeanmuch> i'm structuring my application right now with markup
  64. # [03:48] <youdontmeanmuch> but right now i'm deciding what tags to use. with html5 comes with some nice tags focused for the web
  65. # [03:48] <youdontmeanmuch> such as <aside>, <nav> etc.
  66. # [03:48] <youdontmeanmuch> but i was wondering if it would be advisable to use my own tags
  67. # [03:48] <youdontmeanmuch> such as <region><component type="example-1"></component>....</region>, etc
  68. # [03:48] <youdontmeanmuch> does anybody know some cons or reasons i should go with using regular markup (div's with classes and id's)?
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  77. # [04:49] <hober> why are some html5lib tokenizer tests double-escaped?
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  128. # [11:17] <zcorpan> youdontmeanmuch: http://annevankesteren.nl/2010/09/generic-elements
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  141. # [12:38] <hsivonen> AryehGregor: typo fixed. thanks
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  144. # [12:40] <hsivonen> annevk: OpenJDK is GPLv2 with Classpath Exception. Android userland is Apache License 2.0, so I guess Google could use OpenJDK but then Android vendors would be required to publish their modifications to OpenJDK
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  147. # [12:40] <hsivonen> annevk: currently, Android vendors only need to publish their kernel patches
  148. # [12:41] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: HTML5-compliant script execution landed for beta 7. The .async defaults to true thing landed immediately after beta 7 had been shipped.
  149. # [12:42] <hsivonen> tabatkins: About Google search thumbnails in Firefox 4, I reported the bug to Google via a Googler in August
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  155. # [14:01] <Dashiva> What's the context here? http://twitter.com/fielding/status/3220658943172609
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  158. # [14:09] <hsivonen> Dashiva: Oracle is using GPLv2 in OpenJDK and they are suing Google over Android's Java-ish stack that an independent Apache-licensed impl.
  159. # [14:09] <hsivonen> Dashiva: GPLv3 has new Apache-inspired patent language
  160. # [14:09] <hsivonen> s/that/that is/
  161. # [14:09] <Dashiva> Aha. Thanks
  162. # [14:13] <gsnedders> hsivonen: I thought the GPLv3 patent language only covered derivitives, so it wouldn't help in this case.
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  164. # [14:14] <hsivonen> gsnedders: I'm not claiming anything about any facts. I'm just guessing what the context of the tweet is.
  165. # [14:14] <hsivonen> gsnedders: well, I am claiming that GPLv3's patent language is Apache-inspired, but I'm not claiming anything about what it says
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  175. # [15:07] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: huh? do you change the spec explicitly to prevent script execution from createContextualFragment?
  176. # [15:07] <hsivonen> s/do/did/
  177. # [15:08] <Ms2ger> Ugh, I guess I missed "un"
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  180. # [15:14] <hsivonen> Hixie: using < and > as access keys seems like a combination of an a11y and i18n problem in the making
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  189. # [16:17] <hober> I wish accesskey="" took Emacs' `kbd' syntax. :)
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  259. # [21:05] <schalkn> Hi all
  260. # [21:05] <schalkn> Is there any decent documentation on the JavaScript Audio API?
  261. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> Which API?
  262. # [21:09] <schalkn> I know there are methods to stop, play/pause etc. audio that runs via the audio tag. I was wondering if there is more to it than that, besides Mozilla's stuff, like an actual API to work with audio in the browser
  263. # [21:11] <schalkn> I think this sorta might be it: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/video.html#htmlmediaelement
  264. # [21:15] <schalkn> Well, not entirely
  265. # [21:18] <Ms2ger> And #htmlaudioelement
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  267. # [21:23] <Hixie> hsivonen: the great thing about accesskey="" is that it should actually support this pretty well now
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  270. # [21:51] <schalkn> Does anyone know of a central searchable location of browser release notes?
  271. # [21:51] <schalkn> Say for example, you want to know which is the earliest version of a browser to support a specific tag. You could head over to the site and search for, for example audio, firefox
  272. # [21:53] <_o> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#audio http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#audio https://wiki.mozilla.org/Audio_Data_API http://audioscene.org/
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  277. # [21:59] <schalkn> thanks _o
  278. # [22:02] <Ms2ger> schalkn, something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_%28HTML5%29 ?
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  290. # [22:56] <schalkn> Thanks Ms2ger, thanks looks like a really awesome resource
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